Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Heebie Jeebie]

It would be good to have the veep come from a large, solid blue state like Illinois. Moving a Senator like Duckworth to veep is one of the few ways to open up opportunities for advancement for talented lower-tier politicians. California, New York, and Illinois have tons of potential US Senators who will unfortunately never get their moment to shine.

[KaiserDave]

I can't wait to see a fellow boy from Queens, our amazing President, embarrass Pocahontas in front of the whole wide world when he decisively defeats her in a little over a year.

Assuming it is Lying Liz, we have nothing to fear.

Your wisdom is umfathomable.

[OneJ]

I use this as well since RCP is quite jumpy and prone to noise and FiveThirtyEight hasn't put out their aggregate yet for some odd reason.

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1182824571680051200

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

I can't wait to see a fellow boy from Queens, our amazing President, embarrass Pocahontas in front of the whole wide world when he decisively defeats her in a little over a year.

Assuming it is Lying Liz, we have nothing to fear.

Your wisdom is umfathomable.

His wisdom is great and unmatched.

[izixs]

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  

Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.   

What? Tim Kaine wasn’t the instant frontrunner this time.

Tim Kaine was fairly incompetent at some of the things someone should be in terms of being a VP candidate which resulted in people just kind of not caring about him at all. Perhaps not as bad as Paul Ryan was in the role (who was in the end a bit of a drag due to his actively being out of touch), Kaine still failed to connect with folks at all, letting Clinton remain the only part of the ticket's equation. And I'm fairly certain he either didn't study how to actually tackle Pence in the VP debate or listened to the worst people of the Clinton campaign when it came to debate prep, because dang you can't let a guy like Pence dance around his own record and the awfulness that is Trump like that.

So yeah, Tim Kaine was not ready to be VP, let alone a future contender for the nomination. So its hard to claim he was owed support at all after his total lack of help to things.

As for VP contenders being owed anything for the next cycle in general, nah, no one is owed my vote in the primary due to their being picked by a previous nominee. But it is an opportunity to prove your worth to the party... which again, Tim Kaine failed to do. Others on occasion pull it off. Heck, Biden being picked was strategically useful just for the mere fact that he was the boring 'safe' white guy to put skittish moderates at ease about Obama. And that meant he had to only not screw things up to be given kudos enough to justify his current run. Weirdly enough Gore kind of fits that mold too for an even more skittish early 90s America that was still learning to cope with this rock'n'roll thing. And a Democrat that was hip with the kids? Well best make sure there's someone reasonable around just in case.

Then you got Gore's choice of Lieberman. Seems combining stabilizing guy and guy-so-moderate-he's-actually-conservative is a bad combination. And Lieberman's nature didn't get anyone in the party outside his home state all that interested in going ride or die. And Kerry-Edwards? As the Edwards creep factor wasn't known until after '08, you gotta look at that dynamic differently than what his later reputation might suggest. We're still in 9/11 madness, and the Dems nominate someone who's whole thing is how much of a veteran he is because that will surely win. And you stick the pretty boy to the side...? This dynamic really didn't make any sense. It worked for some, but wasn't enough to help Edwards get all that close to the nomination in 08 despite being considered from the start a heavy weight. I guess in some ways, Edwards had a similar problem to Sanders in the current race. The people that like him really like him, but has trouble going beyond that core, especially when there's more interesting options out there.

I've rambled enough for now. Just some thoughts.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Gillum would be the worst (and most damaging) VP pick by a Presidential nominee from either party since at least Thomas Eagleton at best.  Fortunately, I don't think anyone is stupid enough to pick him.

[Crumpets]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1183110110241050626

[Pericles]

Excellent trolling from Warren-great move.

[soundchaser]

Excellent trolling from Warren-great move.

Her campaign staff seems uniformly excellent -- she hasn't put a foot wrong in months.

[Frodo]

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  

Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.  

What? Tim Kaine wasn’t the instant frontrunner this time.

In addition to what izixs said, I think Catherine Cortez Masto will be a much better quality running-mate than Tim Kaine ever was (I wish Hillary Clinton had chosen Elizabeth Warren instead in 2016 like I originally recommended that year).  Perhaps calling her an 'instant frontrunner' was a bit presumptuous, but being Elizabeth Warren's running-mate will give her at least a leg-up on all her competitors in 2024 if Republicans keep the White House next year.    

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Warren is speaking espanol, she is working the Latino community for votes,Qarren can win TX when it comes to super Tuesday

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1183146608394985477

[IceSpear]

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1183146608394985477

Two year early polls are PROOF that Biden is an Unbeatable Titan and Warren is Mondale 2.0! One year early polls mean nothing, there hasn't even been any socialism ads yet, it is obvious that Biden is an Unbeatable Titan and Warren is Mondale 2.0!

[Figueira]

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  

Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.   

I agree that Masto would be a good VP candidate but how is someone who will be 60 in 2024 (and is literally a baby boomer) "the face of a new generation"?

[Frodo]

I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  

Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.  

I agree that Masto would be a good VP candidate but how is someone who will be 60 in 2024 (and is literally a baby boomer) "the face of a new generation"?

She was born in 1964, and therefore is Generation X (or close enough).  Or at least its leading edge.  

That is unless you want to quibble over whether 1964 or 1965 should be the arbitrary cut-off year...   

[Shadows]

Harry Reid just said Warren is a pragmatic who will abandon Medicare-for-all once elected.

Guess Neoliberals have found a power hungry fraud (who lied about Native American Heritage) who they can use to completely eliminate the progressive agenda, who never supported the progressive cause in 2016 to be Hillary's VP, who was nowhere near Standing Rock, who will raise PAC money in the GE through the DNC & who will vote for 700B$+ Military budgets & will support the Military Industrial Complex

Go Warren. She should pick Manchin or someone even more conservative !

[Cinemark]

Harry Reid just said Warren is a pragmatic who will abandon Medicare-for-all once elected.

Guess Neoliberals have found a power hungry fraud (who lied about Native American Heritage) who they can use to completely eliminate the progressive agenda, who never supported the progressive cause in 2016 to be Hillary's VP, who was nowhere near Standing Rock, who will raise PAC money in the GE through the DNC & who will vote for 700B$+ Military budgets & will support the Military Industrial Complex

Go Warren. She should pick Manchin or someone even more conservative !

While I'm not going to put much stock into anything Reid says, it definitely seems like he's aching to endorse Warren.

That could really make a huge difference in the Nevada caucus. If she takes Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, she could very well sew up the nomination by Super Tuesday.

[Shadows]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Also just to add Children continue to develop cholera in Yemen, they got bombed by the Saudis as Yemen is on track to become the World's poorest country thanks to the support of Elizabeth Warren & people like her who supported 700B$+ Military budget to Trump & a blank check to do anything.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

[Cinemark]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Are you insinuating that Warren was fed an obvious question by a supporter beforehand? Because thats dumb.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

Also good. She's not crippling the party by forcing her no big donor pitch on downballot candidates.

[YE]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Are you insinuating that Warren was fed an obvious question by a supporter beforehand? Because thats dumb.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

Also good. She's not crippling the party by forcing her no big donor pitch on downballot candidates.

I support Warren but there are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by taking money from wealthy interests at this point.

[DaWN]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Are you insinuating that Warren was fed an obvious question by a supporter beforehand? Because thats dumb.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

Also good. She's not crippling the party by forcing her no big donor pitch on downballot candidates.

I support Warren but there are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by taking money from wealthy interests at this point.

There are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by getting outspent a billion to one by the GOP every election

[YE]

https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1183168042920005632?s=21

I like Reid but hopefully he’s wrong here.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1183168042920005632?s=21

I like Reid but hopefully he’s wrong here.

Yeah, you're right. Hopefully when Elizabeth Warren wins and has to work with a less-than-favourable Congress, she'd rather settle for nothing at all than a compromise that strengthens Obamacare. Cuz that would sure be great.

[Mr. Smith]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Are you insinuating that Warren was fed an obvious question by a supporter beforehand? Because thats dumb.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

Also good. She's not crippling the party by forcing her no big donor pitch on downballot candidates.

I support Warren but there are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by taking money from wealthy interests at this point.

There are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by getting outspent a billion to one by the GOP every election

It's never crippled California Gubernatorials....even when the state was swingier [such as, oh, 2002], it didn't stop Obama, it didn't stop TX-2018 from being decided by 200,000 votes, it didn't save Heidi Heitkamp or Claire McCaskill, or....Hillary Clinton herself.

[YE]

Morgan Cox, the person who asked the Marriage Equality question to Elizabeth Warren also happens to be a huge supported of Warren & a longtime donor & has donated to her in the Presidential campaign as well.

Are you insinuating that Warren was fed an obvious question by a supporter beforehand? Because thats dumb.

Also Warren has categorically indicated that she will be raising Corporate PAC big money through the DNC for the GE !

Also good. She's not crippling the party by forcing her no big donor pitch on downballot candidates.

I support Warren but there are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by taking money from wealthy interests at this point.

There are few ways to long-term cripple the Democratic Party more than by getting outspent a billion to one by the GOP every election

See this sort of intimidation is why the Democrats lose.

People are tired of the business as usual status quo, which has largely been fueled by said interests, and are often much more willing in this day and age (granted it never should have gotten to this point) to vote against an establishment candidate backed said by interests. Hell, in the Internet age, it’s much easier to raise money $27 at a time than it use to be. If the Democrats continue to rely on big money’d interests in the way they have, in the long term regardless of what happens in 2020, they will be seen as technocratic inauthentic status quo candidates and let someone like Donald Trump use attitudes about race and immigrants as well as the overall cultural gap between urban and rural America to divide us up, and continue this polarized political climate that also enacts policies backed by said interests.