If two-term presidents had ran for a third term, would they have won?
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Big Boy Beto
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« on: December 30, 2018, 01:52:22 PM »
« edited: December 30, 2018, 07:14:43 PM by Kasich2020 »

I’ll only do presidents post the 22nd amendment but feel free to do presidents prior.
Eisenhower: Yes
Reagan: Easily, although I don’t think he would’ve ran and his mental capacities wouldn’t have been sufficient.
Clinton: Probably not, but narrowly. He may have been popular but during an election campaign the opposition would have too much ammunition to use against him.
Bush: No.
Obama: If Trump/Cruz/Christie/maybe Bush is the nominee, yes, but otherwise no. People wanted change (Ironic, isn’t it?) and I think Obama actually had a lot to do with Clinton’s loss in 2016.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 02:16:56 PM »

Clinton had an approval in the 60's so Id think Yes
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2018, 02:26:24 PM »

Ike: Yes, he wins reelection in 1960 against any Democrat.
Reagan: Since Poppy won, the Gipper would have done so, too.
Clinton: Yes, Billy was popular and he would have beaten Dubya and (narrowly) McCain. If possible, he would have won again in 2004 for a fourth term, that I am sure.
Dubya: No, he would have been trounced in the election by almost any Democrat. Obama would have won with at least 380 electoral votes and 54% of the vote.
Obama: He was popular and skilled enough to defeat any Republican that actually ran including Donald Trump.


Bonus: Without Watergate, Richard Nixon would have won again in 1976. And with the 22nd amendment, some other Republican (Rockefeller or Connally most likely) would have been elected. In 1980, Democrats would have taken back the White House regardless. Jimmy Carter would have never been anything other than maybe a random cabinet secretary.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 02:32:46 PM »

What about Presidents who were VPs, succeeded following a death of a sitting president then ran for a second full term?

Truman in 1952: against Ike certainly no. Against Taft or any of the other GOP possibilities that cycle, he'd have won.

Teddy Roosevelt in 1908,of course- yes.The Dems had nobody close to him in popularity that could have won that year. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 02:39:17 PM »

What about Presidents who were VPs, succeeded following a death of a sitting president then ran for a second full term?

Truman in 1952: against Ike certainly no. Against Taft or any of the other GOP possibilities that cycle, he'd have won.

Teddy Roosevelt in 1908,of course- yes.The Dems had nobody close to him in popularity that could have won that year.  

Agree.

Coolidge would have won again 1928 since the economy was still doing well and no foreign crisis. And Hoover won in a massive blowout.

I also think that LBJ would have beaten Nixon in 1968. He was a master politican and would have made the Nixon camp's attempts to sabotage the Paris Peace Talks public (not he himself, but he would have found a way). That alone would have shifted the election in his favor regardless of a three or two-way race. I'm not sure though whether he would have survived his last term.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2018, 04:15:21 PM »

Truman: he'd lose to Eisenhower, but he'd beat Taft.

Eisenhower: Yes

Johnson: he dropped out b/c he knew the answer was no.

Nixon: he'd lose w/ Watergate, but he'd win without it.

Reagan: Yes

Clinton: Yes

Bush: LOL no

Obama: Yes
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2018, 10:25:52 PM »

One more: Grant would easily have won a third term in 1876. In real time he did try for the nomination in 1880 but fell short.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2019, 08:30:59 AM »

One more: Grant would easily have won a third term in 1876. In real time he did try for the nomination in 1880 but fell short.
Interesting. I was under the impression that President Grant was not that popular towards the end of his second term due his administrations somehwat poor handling of the 1873 economic collapse, as well as due to the decline in public support for his Reconstruction policies after the 1874 midterm elections.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2019, 08:46:22 AM »
« Edited: January 08, 2019, 08:49:32 AM by Mr.Phips »

What about Presidents who were VPs, succeeded following a death of a sitting president then ran for a second full term?

Truman in 1952: against Ike certainly no. Against Taft or any of the other GOP possibilities that cycle, he'd have won.

Teddy Roosevelt in 1908,of course- yes.The Dems had nobody close to him in popularity that could have won that year.  

Agree.

Coolidge would have won again 1928 since the economy was still doing well and no foreign crisis. And Hoover won in a massive blowout.

I also think that LBJ would have beaten Nixon in 1968. He was a master politican and would have made the Nixon camp's attempts to sabotage the Paris Peace Talks public (not he himself, but he would have found a way). That alone would have shifted the election in his favor regardless of a three or two-way race. I'm not sure though whether he would have survived his last term.

All LBJ had to do was drop an anonymous tape of Nixon’s conversations about sabotaging the peace talks on the doorsteps of the Washington Post on the Friday before the election and the election would have been over.  Nobody would have known who dropped off the tape or recorded it.

Nixon’s actions would have been the only story in the news in the three days leading up to the election.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 01:21:47 PM »

Nixon: No

Reagan: Yes

Clinton: Yes

Bush: No

Obama: No
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