Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Mr. Morden]

The latest from Biden:

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1283202214195068935

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

He really should just announce already.

Yeah, I don't think it matters if he announces at Convention time or now. If there was a year to get away from announcing at Convention time, this is the year

[With you in spirit]

The latest from Biden:

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1283202214195068935

So at the latest, this part of the process will be done by July 24th. Say he narrows it down to a true 3-4 person shortlist, those interviews take a day each, then some more mulling, then a decision...i’m guessing somewhere in that August 7-9 range.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Why are we still talking about this moment? She rightfully held him accountable for the glowing statements he made about white segregationists. To still be harping on this is white fragility.

But it’s crickets on the much more searing attacks Warren made against him. I see the double standards for non-white women...

We’re harping on it because it’s relevant to whether the Democratic nominee decides to pick someone who didn’t do that to him in a debate over her. I thought her attack was fair game but you can’t blame Biden if he doesn’t pick her.

Nah. It’s relevant to you because you hate her. Y’all keep bringing it up when Joe Biden said MONTHS ago that he was over it.

Let me be clear that if he doesn’t pick her it is what it is. But the debate is a dumb ass reason and the people who keep bringing it up like she betrayed him are acting like he is a fragile ass child. He wasn’t above reproach for the praise he lavished on known segregationists. Period.

Chillax.

[Ferguson97]

tfw the veepstakes take longer than the primary

[Mr. Morden]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/12/tammy-duckworth-vp-contention-357234

Top story on Politico right now is all about Duckworth, focusing on her being a veteran and the clash with Tucker Carlson.

Sorry, this was a couple of days ago, but just catching up on some of this now.  The relevant news on vetting from that story:

The attention hasn't escaped Biden's vetting team. It has stepped up information-gathering on Duckworth recently, scrutinizing her legislative record and talking to her colleagues, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

[South Dakota Democrat]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/12/tammy-duckworth-vp-contention-357234

Top story on Politico right now is all about Duckworth, focusing on her being a veteran and the clash with Tucker Carlson.

Sorry, this was a couple of days ago, but just catching up on some of this now.  The relevant news on vetting from that story:

The attention hasn't escaped Biden's vetting team. It has stepped up information-gathering on Duckworth recently, scrutinizing her legislative record and talking to her colleagues, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

Very interesting.  I kind of get the feeling that they weren't taking her very seriously earlier on, but increasingly are now.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It will be really nice when there is some actual VP news in this thread instead of the endless sniping among people who dislike particular candidates.

The Kamala Harris saga has been way overblown,  that's why people snipe at each other. If she was so good to be Veep, why did she flop so badly as a Prez candidate

[BidenHarris2020]

My bet is August 8th

[Ferguson97]

Hot take: Joe announces at the convention

[GeneralMacArthur]

Why should Joe be in any rush to announce?  He's had nothing but positive news cycles for the last 8 weeks and he's enjoying landslide polling.  He doesn't need to shake up the race or draw earned media.  Keep this card up your sleeve.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I like Susan Rice better than Harris, hopefully she is picked but some dont like Rice

[MillennialModerate]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

[Roll Roons]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

Why do you think Duckworth would be a disaster?

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

If there's a critical mistake, it's this. There are plenty of women who could be strong VP candidates but most aren't being considered. I don't see how this problem would be much better if men were also in the mix.

[Bidenworth2020]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

What is the "else". Do you know something we don't?

[BlueSwan]

Why should Joe be in any rush to announce?  He's had nothing but positive news cycles for the last 8 weeks and he's enjoying landslide polling.  He doesn't need to shake up the race or draw earned media.  Keep this card up your sleeve.

Absolutely, I was thinking the same. The longer he can delay this the better honestly. Joe doesn't need a game changer at all.

[pppolitics]

Poll: Majority of voters say Biden's VP won't factor in 2020 vote

Joe Biden’s choice of a running mate is the talk of Washington, but a majority of American voters said Biden’s VP selection won’t affect their vote, according to a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll released Wednesday.

Fifty-four percent of respondents said that Biden’s running mate will have no impact on how they’ll cast their ballot. Only 16 percent said that it would have a “major impact” on their vote. Another 20 percent said it would have a “minor impact.”

Biden said he’ll announce his vice presidential selection after August 1, and many of the options have already appeared alongside him at campaign events and fundraisers, generating further speculation. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Biden’s one-time Democratic primary rivals, are often mentioned as top contenders, as is Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Susan Rice, the former Obama administration national security adviser.

The poll did find sustained support among Democrats for Biden to select a person of color as his running mate, with 45 percent of Democrats saying that would be important. In June, after George Floyd’s death galvanized a national protest movement around racial justice, 46 percent of Democrats said they preferred a person of color on the ticket — a 10-point jump over early April, when just 36 percent of Democrats said that would be important.

[....]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/joe-biden-vice-president-pick-poll-362900

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I dont think its Demings or Duckworth,  Biden wants a Senator or Gov and it's not Warren, its down to: Grisham, Rice or Harris. I think Rice gets it, and 25 percent MLG

[wbrocks67]

Poll: Majority of voters say Biden's VP won't factor in 2020 vote

Joe Biden’s choice of a running mate is the talk of Washington, but a majority of American voters said Biden’s VP selection won’t affect their vote, according to a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll released Wednesday.

Fifty-four percent of respondents said that Biden’s running mate will have no impact on how they’ll cast their ballot. Only 16 percent said that it would have a “major impact” on their vote. Another 20 percent said it would have a “minor impact.”

Biden said he’ll announce his vice presidential selection after August 1, and many of the options have already appeared alongside him at campaign events and fundraisers, generating further speculation. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Biden’s one-time Democratic primary rivals, are often mentioned as top contenders, as is Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Susan Rice, the former Obama administration national security adviser.

The poll did find sustained support among Democrats for Biden to select a person of color as his running mate, with 45 percent of Democrats saying that would be important. In June, after George Floyd’s death galvanized a national protest movement around racial justice, 46 percent of Democrats said they preferred a person of color on the ticket — a 10-point jump over early April, when just 36 percent of Democrats said that would be important.

[....]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/joe-biden-vice-president-pick-poll-362900

Favorabilites:

Tammy Duckworth: 18/14 (+4)
Stacey Abrams: 22/20 (+2)
Val Demings: 11/11 (=)
Keisha Lance Bottoms: 14/14 (=)
Kamala Harris: 32/34 (-2)
Gretchen Whitmer: 16/18 (-2)
Tammy Baldwin: 11/13 (-2)
Michele Lujan Grisham: 8/10 (-2)
Karen Bass: 8/10 (-2)
Susan Rice: 19/22 (-3)
Elizabeth Warren: 36/43 (-7)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bass, Bottoms and Abrams arent gonna be the nominees. Bass clarified that on TV and Abrams said she wasnt vetted. As far as Bottoms, she has Covid 19, the Prez needs to stay away as far from someone with Covid 19

[South Dakota Democrat]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

If there's a critical mistake, it's this. There are plenty of women who could be strong VP candidates but most aren't being considered. I don't see how this problem would be much better if men were also in the mix.

Which women do you want him to pick that he isn't considering?

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

I think the promise to pick a woman might be a mistake cause honestly there are so many better choices that are men. And the women who would be good picks he clearly doesn’t want to pick.

Rice - Good in office but awful campaigner
Harris - She seems good but there’s baggage there
Warren - Too polarizing. Would scare off moderate GOP voters
Duckworth: I think this would be a disaster. They’re looking at the combat vet angle and nothing else.

I’m convinced Whitner would be the best choice but hey what do I know

If there's a critical mistake, it's this. There are plenty of women who could be strong VP candidates but most aren't being considered. I don't see how this problem would be much better if men were also in the mix.

Which women do you want him to pick that he isn't considering?

I don't know who he isn't considering, but the apparent non-vetting of Hilda Solis seems like a mistake and we don't hear much about e.g. Baldwin compared to Demings. I should revise my point - it's not that the best candidates aren't being considered, but that it seems they aren't being considered nearly as seriously as some really flawed ones.

[BidenHarris2020]

Has anyone taken into account the looks of the potential vp? Sexism undeniably had an impact on 2016, and will again this year. Who looks the best next to Biden on stage/campaign material etc. Harris, then Whitmer for me.

[BidenHarris2020]

Obama called Harris the best looking AG in the country, then had to (understandably) apologize.