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« Reply #1700 on: May 23, 2020, 06:41:04 PM »

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« Reply #1701 on: May 23, 2020, 06:44:14 PM »

It was deleted. What did it say?

Nevermind, it was this:
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« Reply #1702 on: May 23, 2020, 06:50:24 PM »

I can honestly say that Warren's chances have shot up. Remember when people thought Biden was only going to pick either Klobuchar or Harris? Yeah, I remember too.

What in the world makes you think that? If anything, after that CTG interview fiasco, Harris is the clear frontrunner.

Charlamagne was a big cheerleader for Harris during her run.

Huh

All I'm saying is that as Klobuchar's chances went way down, Warren's chances have gone up as a result of the backlash against Klobuchar. To be fair, I think Harris is the favorite though I have my reasons why I think Warren isn't as far behind her as many think. My point has nothing to do with the Charlamagne's interview thing. In fact, I'd argue that the Klobuchar backlash increases Harris' chances more than CTG's interview.

Im not sure identity politics has anything to do with the dislike some have for Amy

As the previous poster pointed out Elizabeth Warren, another top contender for VP, doesn’t elicit similar antagonism from communities of color.

She is also white yet I do not see any black activist hating on her or telling Biden not to pick her

Well one thing is that you have to remember that a good chunk of Black activists actually like Warren and even supported her despite not having too high support from Black voters themselves.
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« Reply #1703 on: May 23, 2020, 07:23:54 PM »

I think the likelihood of the nod going to Harris, Demings, or Abrams has gone up as a result of Biden's gaffe.
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« Reply #1704 on: May 23, 2020, 07:27:12 PM »

Yates, Klobuchar or Harris should be AG/Solicitor General

Biden's final VP shortlist should be:
1. Warren
2. Abrams
3. Demings
4. Whitmer
5. Lujan Grisham


It will be Lujan Grisham, the safest female veep choice there is. She doesn't offend anyone.
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« Reply #1705 on: May 23, 2020, 07:37:26 PM »

Yates, Klobuchar or Harris should be AG/Solicitor General

Biden's final VP shortlist should be:
1. Warren
2. Abrams
3. Demings
4. Whitmer
5. Lujan Grisham


It will be Lujan Grisham, the safest female veep choice there is. She doesn't offend anyone.
Because no one knows who she is.
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« Reply #1706 on: May 23, 2020, 08:05:11 PM »

Abrams is not getting this, there is zero chance Biden takes someone with her experience level while ahead in the polls. Whitmer is a good substitute for Klobuchar with midwestern voters and just more charismatic in general. I'd make a case it should be Whitmer or Demings instead of any of the mediocre ones who ran for POTUS.
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« Reply #1707 on: May 23, 2020, 08:07:56 PM »

It's going to be a woman of color, and probably a black woman.

It's not going to be someone inexperienced or old.

Kamala Harris is the only reasonable choice.
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« Reply #1708 on: May 23, 2020, 08:08:43 PM »

It would not stun me if the final decision is Harris vs Whitmer
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« Reply #1709 on: May 23, 2020, 08:15:43 PM »

Whitmer doesn't have a fraught relationship with the African-American community, makes more sense than Amy.

I think picking a Governor is a mistake

It is crazy that we are now living in a day and age where picking someone who actually has the experience to govern and run this County is a bad thing but picking some random senator who has never actually governed or ran anything a day in their life is good thing simply because they excite the base more.

but after of that excitement fades and they actually have to govern then what

I really do have hope that next generation gets away from electing reality TV show stars and 1 term senators as their leaders. I mean don't get me wrong I like Obama but many of his issues then and trump issues now are that they had No idea how to work with the other side once their party was no longer in power.

Obama and trump both struggled after the lost the House
many times Biden had to be the one to go over and make deals with the GOP in order to get anything done because of Obama's lack of relationships and experience dealing with many in congress. He did not just struggle with the GOP congress. he also struggled with his own party when It came to passing things like background checks or doing immigration reform.

call me old fashioned but I miss having governors in the white house and If had it my way Biden would actually pick someone who knows how the govern this country for the Next 4 years instead of some flashy senator who does not know what they hell they are doing when they are actually get into the white house

Exactly! I think Whitmer's executive skills and competence has as much, if not more value than her ability to make campaign appearances in Florida in October. Does anyone really think we will have rallies this year? If people see her doing her job, Biden can only benefit. Gilchrist becoming MI Governor is also a benefit to the African-American community that Amy lacks.

Whitmer could make time to give an outdoor DNC speech and then campaign or return to MI as circumstances permit. Don't forget she is already in a swing state and WI, PA are a short trip away. Biden can campaign himself FL, NC, GA, AZ.
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« Reply #1710 on: May 23, 2020, 08:58:01 PM »

It's Whitmer, Lujan, Warren or Demings.

If it is Warren, Baker picks a Republican to fill the seat and that Republican holds on. Bold prediction.

My money is on Lujan.
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« Reply #1711 on: May 23, 2020, 09:18:33 PM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.
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« Reply #1712 on: May 23, 2020, 09:29:58 PM »

It's Whitmer, Lujan, Warren or Demings.

If it is Warren, Baker picks a Republican to fill the seat and that Republican holds on. Bold prediction.

My money is on Lujan.

Lol @ you leaving out Harris.
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« Reply #1713 on: May 23, 2020, 09:31:16 PM »

Whitmer's mother died of the same type of brain cancer as Beau Biden did...if a personal connection matters don't discount things like this.
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« Reply #1714 on: May 24, 2020, 12:37:11 AM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

Sorry she's capable of being pragmatic and doesn't just act based on what one segment of the party thinks?
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« Reply #1715 on: May 24, 2020, 01:27:05 AM »

It's Whitmer, Lujan, Warren or Demings.

If it is Warren, Baker picks a Republican to fill the seat and that Republican holds on. Bold prediction.

My money is on Lujan.

I’m guessing is Warren is picked she will resign her Senate seat in time for a replacement to be elected  this year.
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« Reply #1716 on: May 24, 2020, 01:44:28 AM »

Abrams is such a horrible choice, if Biden picked her I would begin wondering if he was actually senile. The only three choices for this is Warren, Harris, or Duckworth.
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« Reply #1717 on: May 24, 2020, 02:42:47 AM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

Sorry she's capable of being pragmatic and doesn't just act based on what one segment of the party thinks?

If you try to build consensus, you're a sellout. Bernie's right and everybody else is wrong and they suck and you suck. We're going to rebuild the New Deal Coalition by excluding every democrat who isn't perfectly left on all issues, because you know, FDR's coalition was famous for its ideological purity. Anyway, Sanders/Turner 2020 will sweep the rust belt because Bernie beat Hillary in Michigan back in 2016...Oh what Bernie lost? God dammit the centrists cheated by dropping out and making endorsements! Because that's what a winning candidate looks like, someone who can only win when their opponents are split three ways!

Bit of a strawman, I know. But I get TYT/Secular Talk/Humanist Report on my Youtube recommendations every now and then and good lord, the internet left is so hopelessly deluded sometimes.
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« Reply #1718 on: May 24, 2020, 04:38:21 AM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

Sorry she's capable of being pragmatic and doesn't just act based on what one segment of the party thinks?

If you try to build consensus, you're a sellout. Bernie's right and everybody else is wrong and they suck and you suck. We're going to rebuild the New Deal Coalition by excluding every democrat who isn't perfectly left on all issues, because you know, FDR's coalition was famous for its ideological purity. Anyway, Sanders/Turner 2020 will sweep the rust belt because Bernie beat Hillary in Michigan back in 2016...Oh what Bernie lost? God dammit the centrists cheated by dropping out and making endorsements! Because that's what a winning candidate looks like, someone who can only win when their opponents are split three ways!

Bit of a strawman, I know. But I get TYT/Secular Talk/Humanist Report on my Youtube recommendations every now and then and good lord, the internet left is so hopelessly deluded sometimes.

Biden's fans are all about unity until the left gets involved, it seems.
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« Reply #1719 on: May 24, 2020, 05:52:24 AM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

There are no "centrists" in American politics anymore. I wish there was more.
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« Reply #1720 on: May 24, 2020, 09:59:01 AM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

Sorry she's capable of being pragmatic and doesn't just act based on what one segment of the party thinks?

If you try to build consensus, you're a sellout. Bernie's right and everybody else is wrong and they suck and you suck. We're going to rebuild the New Deal Coalition by excluding every democrat who isn't perfectly left on all issues, because you know, FDR's coalition was famous for its ideological purity. Anyway, Sanders/Turner 2020 will sweep the rust belt because Bernie beat Hillary in Michigan back in 2016...Oh what Bernie lost? God dammit the centrists cheated by dropping out and making endorsements! Because that's what a winning candidate looks like, someone who can only win when their opponents are split three ways!

Bit of a strawman, I know. But I get TYT/Secular Talk/Humanist Report on my Youtube recommendations every now and then and good lord, the internet left is so hopelessly deluded sometimes.

Biden's fans are all about unity until the left gets involved, it seems.


I'm not a Biden fan, I didn't even say anything about Biden.
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« Reply #1721 on: May 24, 2020, 01:47:16 PM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

There are no "centrists" in American politics anymore. I wish there was more.

"Centrist" is the new word socialists use to describe mainstream democrats.
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« Reply #1722 on: May 24, 2020, 03:06:19 PM »

How Biden's veep pick will reshape his image

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For Biden, the questions are: what story does he want to tell about himself and his candidacy through his selection of a running mate, and where does he think he is strong (or weak) already. Biden's success so far has been based on his unusual ability to appeal to working-class white voters as well as African Americans. However, with seemingly no potential running mate who also appeals to both constituencies, Biden will have to make a choice and decide where he is strong enough on his own that he does not need additional help.
It remains true that for the huge majority of Americans, Biden's choice will have little impact on their vote. Most decided long ago whether or not they want to give Trump another term. However, close presidential elections are won on the margins as undecided voters in a handful of states make up their minds. For those voters, the image and story that the candidates craft are very important -- and for Biden part of that story will be told through his choice of running mate.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/23/opinions/joe-biden-veep-stakes-shape-image-mitchell/index.html
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« Reply #1723 on: May 24, 2020, 03:11:21 PM »

Man, Warren is so desperate for centrists to like her she’s gonna lose all her progressive appeal by 2024.

There are no "centrists" in American politics anymore. I wish there was more.

"Centrist" is the new word socialists use to describe mainstream democrats.

It's not new, it's quite literally been the mainstream of the Democratic Party since 1984 when the DLC altered the discourse.
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« Reply #1724 on: May 24, 2020, 03:23:33 PM »


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