Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Progressive Pessimist]

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Exactly. Mark Kirk unfortunately learned this the hard way, and I'm sure it would look even worse for Trump if he tried to insult her.

LOL, the same Trump that attacked John McCain and the Khan family? The same Trump that mocked a disabled reporter?

C'mon, y'all should know better than this by now, it's been almost 5 years since he announced his candidacy.

Trump will say something like "She's a phony veteran. Phony! I like people that weren't injured." Trump is a scumbag.

I think it's a little different with Duckworth having a very obvious physical handicap unlike Kerry. And the comparison with the Khans and McCain isn't quite that accurate either to me, Trump and his party weren't running against them so there was significantly less risk by being shameless. She also wouldn't be afraid to throw Trump's Vietnam draft-dodging back in his face, she coined the term "Cadet Bone-Spurs" after all. I still think she'd be a fairly safe choice.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Exactly. Mark Kirk unfortunately learned this the hard way, and I'm sure it would look even worse for Trump if he tried to insult her.

LOL, the same Trump that attacked John McCain and the Khan family? The same Trump that mocked a disabled reporter?

C'mon, y'all should know better than this by now, it's been almost 5 years since he announced his candidacy.

Trump will say something like "She's a phony veteran. Phony! I like people that weren't injured." Trump is a scumbag.

I think it's a little different with Duckworth having a very obvious physical handicap unlike Kerry. And the comparison with the Khans and McCain isn't quite that accurate either to me, Trump and his party weren't running against them so there was significantly less risk by being shameless. She also wouldn't be afraid to throw Trump's Vietnam draft-dodging back in his face, she coined the term "Cadet Bone-Spurs" after all. I still think she'd be a fairly safe choice.

And what about the disabled reporter that Trump mocked?

Anyways, stop thinking that Trump has a bottom. Trump has NONE. He will say anything, even if it is disgusting and crass.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Exactly. Mark Kirk unfortunately learned this the hard way, and I'm sure it would look even worse for Trump if he tried to insult her.

LOL, the same Trump that attacked John McCain and the Khan family? The same Trump that mocked a disabled reporter?

C'mon, y'all should know better than this by now, it's been almost 5 years since he announced his candidacy.

Trump will say something like "She's a phony veteran. Phony! I like people that weren't injured." Trump is a scumbag.

I think it's a little different with Duckworth having a very obvious physical handicap unlike Kerry. And the comparison with the Khans and McCain isn't quite that accurate either to me, Trump and his party weren't running against them so there was significantly less risk by being shameless. She also wouldn't be afraid to throw Trump's Vietnam draft-dodging back in his face, she coined the term "Cadet Bone-Spurs" after all. I still think she'd be a fairly safe choice.

And what about the disabled reporter that Trump mocked?

Anyways, stop thinking that Trump has a bottom. Trump has NONE. He will say anything, even if it is disgusting and crass.

They weren't running against the disabled reporter, he wouldn't get any sympathy votes.

And I am well aware that Trump has no shame at all but it doesn't mean that there won't be backlash to them. Let's not forget that there is backlash to everything he says, it just doesn't often yield consequences. In an election it could. I don't know if it will, but it's a much different circumstance than him just getting into a fight with some random private citizen. That's all I'm trying to point out here.

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Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Exactly. Mark Kirk unfortunately learned this the hard way, and I'm sure it would look even worse for Trump if he tried to insult her.

LOL, the same Trump that attacked John McCain and the Khan family? The same Trump that mocked a disabled reporter?

C'mon, y'all should know better than this by now, it's been almost 5 years since he announced his candidacy.

Trump will say something like "She's a phony veteran. Phony! I like people that weren't injured." Trump is a scumbag.

I think it's a little different with Duckworth having a very obvious physical handicap unlike Kerry. And the comparison with the Khans and McCain isn't quite that accurate either to me, Trump and his party weren't running against them so there was significantly less risk by being shameless. She also wouldn't be afraid to throw Trump's Vietnam draft-dodging back in his face, she coined the term "Cadet Bone-Spurs" after all. I still think she'd be a fairly safe choice.

And what about the disabled reporter that Trump mocked?

Anyways, stop thinking that Trump has a bottom. Trump has NONE. He will say anything, even if it is disgusting and crass.

They weren't running against the disabled reporter, he wouldn't get any sympathy votes.

And I am well aware that Trump has no shame at all but it doesn't mean that there won't be backlash to them. Let's not forget that there is backlash to everything he says, it just doesn't often yield consequences. In an election it could. I don't know if it will, but it's a much different circumstance than him just getting into a fight with some random private citizen. That's all I'm trying to point out here.

In the primaries, Trump made of Marco Rubio ("Little Marco"), he called Ted Cruz's wife "ugly", he said that America wouldn't elect Carly Fiorina because "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?"

In the general, Trump said that Hillary "should be in jail" and brought some accusers of Bill Clinton to one of the debates among many other things. Also, don't forget that the Access Hollywood tape leaked and he still won.

Sen. Duckworth would NOT be immune to Trump's crassness and shenanigans. The impact on the election would remain to be seen until Election Day as most people are solidified on their opinion of Trump already.

Anyways, Sen. Duckworth has a <1% of chance of being selected as Biden's VP.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Her DNA test and relentless woke politics is already a needless distraction Biden doesn't need.

Yeah, not like the Trump campaign won't make stupid issues out of any of the potential VP candidates.

Attacking Tammy Duckworth is a lot harder than attacking Warren, and Duckworth holds a similar progressive score.

Those scores don't really matter. It's all about perception. Booker and Harris have consistently been ranked as top 5 most progressive senators by basically every ranking system, yet many progressives don't like either of them at all.

Duckworth is also largely unknown and unvetted on the national stage. We know for almost a fact that the worst attack Republicans have against Warren is the “Pocahontas” smear and attacking her as too left. We know what we’re getting with her, Harris, & Klobuchar.

I’d say it’s more of a risk to pick someone who didn’t run for President (Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings) than one of the former 3.

I think what's appealing about Duckworth though is that she is inherently sympathetic in being a wounded veteran. It would be hard to negatively characterize her in the face of that, and anything the Republicans try could backfire hard.

Exactly. Mark Kirk unfortunately learned this the hard way, and I'm sure it would look even worse for Trump if he tried to insult her.

LOL, the same Trump that attacked John McCain and the Khan family? The same Trump that mocked a disabled reporter?

C'mon, y'all should know better than this by now, it's been almost 5 years since he announced his candidacy.

Trump will say something like "She's a phony veteran. Phony! I like people that weren't injured." Trump is a scumbag.

I think it's a little different with Duckworth having a very obvious physical handicap unlike Kerry. And the comparison with the Khans and McCain isn't quite that accurate either to me, Trump and his party weren't running against them so there was significantly less risk by being shameless. She also wouldn't be afraid to throw Trump's Vietnam draft-dodging back in his face, she coined the term "Cadet Bone-Spurs" after all. I still think she'd be a fairly safe choice.

And what about the disabled reporter that Trump mocked?

Anyways, stop thinking that Trump has a bottom. Trump has NONE. He will say anything, even if it is disgusting and crass.

They weren't running against the disabled reporter, he wouldn't get any sympathy votes.

And I am well aware that Trump has no shame at all but it doesn't mean that there won't be backlash to them. Let's not forget that there is backlash to everything he says, it just doesn't often yield consequences. In an election it could. I don't know if it will, but it's a much different circumstance than him just getting into a fight with some random private citizen. That's all I'm trying to point out here.

In the primaries, Trump made of Marco Rubio ("Little Marco"), he called Ted Cruz's wife "ugly", he said that America wouldn't elect Carly Fiorina because "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?"

In the general, Trump said that Hillary "should be in jail" and brought some accusers of Bill Clinton to one of the debates among many other things. Also, don't forget that the Access Hollywood tape leaked and he still won.

Sen. Duckworth would NOT be immune to Trump's crassness and shenanigans. The impact on the election would remain to be seen until Election Day as most people are solidified on their opinion of Trump already.

Anyways, Sen. Duckworth has a <1% of chance of being selected as Biden's VP.

For his Republican Party primary it was clearly beneficial for him to be as petty and personal as possible, but his rivals clearly didn't have much of a chance when they divided the opposition to him anyway.

I would argue that the Clinton "you should be in jail" comments did cause a backlash but not one that was enough to last until election day. Same with Access Hollywood. If the tape had come out a week before election day it would have taken attention away from Clinton's email investigation being reopened and probably led to a surge in support for her, as the polls indicated when it did actually come out. Clinton probably would have been President. It's all about timing. An insult on Duckowrth well before the election indeed probably wouldn't hurt him too much, but then again a poorly timed insult, closer to election day, to Duckworth by Trump or a Republican could hurt. I am insistent on that.

But yeah, it doesn't seem like she is being very highly considered, which I am somewhat surprised about. Then again, I'm not part of the campaign, so who knows?

[Ogre Mage]

Sen. Durbin said that the Biden campaign was preparing to interview Sen. Duckworth.  When she was asked if she was being vetted she dodged the question.  So they are at least running her through the paces.  She is unlikely to be the pick but could be a dark horse choice.  I've heard she is hesitant to take the position because she has a newborn, which is understandable.  But she also knows it is good for Asian-Americans and people with disabilities to see her being considered.

Sen. Cortez Masto also seems hesitant, or at least she is unwilling to maneuver to become the running mate.  That's a significant reason why I think her and Duckworth's chances are lower.

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Sen. Durbin said that the Biden campaign was preparing to interview Sen. Duckworth.  When she was asked if she was being vetted she dodged the question.  So they are at least running her through the paces.  She is unlikely to be the pick but could be a dark horse choice.  I've heard she is hesitant to take the position because she has a newborn, which is understandable.  But she also knows it is good for Asian-Americans and people with disabilities to see her being considered.

Sen. Cortez Masto also seems hesitant, or at least she is unwilling to maneuver to become the running mate.  That's a significant reason why I think her and Duckworth's chances are lower.

Well, Kamala is also half Asian (Indian) lol.

[Lincoln Republican]

I am 75% certain it is going to be Warren.

[Grassroots]

To those thinking he wont attack Duckworth just because she's a war veteran, look at McCain.

[Ogre Mage]

Sen. Durbin said that the Biden campaign was preparing to interview Sen. Duckworth.  When she was asked if she was being vetted she dodged the question.  So they are at least running her through the paces.  She is unlikely to be the pick but could be a dark horse choice.  I've heard she is hesitant to take the position because she has a newborn, which is understandable.  But she also knows it is good for Asian-Americans and people with disabilities to see her being considered.

Sen. Cortez Masto also seems hesitant, or at least she is unwilling to maneuver to become the running mate.  That's a significant reason why I think her and Duckworth's chances are lower.

Well, Kamala is also half Asian (Indian) lol.

Yes it is also good for Asian-Americans that Sen. Harris is high-profile in the process.  She did an event with the AAPI Victory Fund recently (it's posted on their Facebook page).  Her chances are much higher and she has no hesitations about maneuvering for the post.

[Hope For A New Era]

I'm going to be the odd one out among progressives on here and say: Warren would not be a good choice.

During the primaries, in polls that asked respondents who they would vote for in each possible Dem vs. Trump pairing, Warren usually performed worst out of all of them. Unfortunately, that takes priority over any policy.

Trump is one of the biggest threats to democracy our nation has seen in its history. Get him out first and prevent this country from becoming the next Hungary. Worry about the rest later.

In addition to all of that, Massachusetts's Republican governor would be naming her replacement. I don't think Biden would risk accidentally preventing a potential Senate majority.


I hope he considers Duckworth more. She really has everything the ticket needs, I think. I'm pretty sure it will be Harris, but there's always a chance.

[wbrocks67]

People don't realize how divisive Warren is to the regular public. There are a lot of people who will totally vote for Biden but vehemently do not like Warren. It just is what it is. She possibly harms the ticket more than she helps.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

People don't realize how divisive Warren is to the regular public. There are a lot of people who will totally vote for Biden but vehemently do not like Warren. It just is what it is. She possibly harms the ticket more than she helps.

She just endorsed Teresa Greenfield,  with 4/4 Congressional districts at stake, smart move, since she wants to be Veep.
JD Scholten, whom.is Charlie Brown sounding will beat King.

Some on the forum dont want Warren, due to fact, if she resigned to be Veep, Kennedy or Pressley will run

Again, taking Whitmer or Grisham, away from their states doesnt look smart for incumbent Govs.😍😍😍

Gov Bullock is staying in his home state, eventhough he is running for Senate and is being rewarded by having a 7 or lead over Daines.

Warren will be Veep, the Dems can change the succession law. They have 2/3rds majority in both chambers of state legislators 😍😍😍

It will be smart to pick Warren during 4th of July weekend, big holiday in Boston.

[Ferguson97]

At the end of the day, I think Biden needs to pick a woman of color who isn't inexperienced, over 65, or divisive.

[DisneyDem]

At the end of the day, I think Biden needs to pick a woman of color who isn't inexperienced, over 65, or divisive.

Duckworth it is then!

[Bidenworth2020]

At the end of the day, I think Biden needs to pick a woman of color who isn't inexperienced, over 65, or divisive.

Duckworth it is then!

This guy gets it.

[Blue3]

https://www.abqjournal.com/1457689/biden-may-be-looking-at-lujan-grisham-for-vp-ex-formal-vetting-process-is-currently-underway.html

[Orwell]

At the end of the day, I think Biden needs to pick a woman of color who isn't inexperienced, over 65, or divisive.

Duckworth it is then!

This guy gets it.

[swf541]

At the end of the day, I think Biden needs to pick a woman of color who isn't inexperienced, over 65, or divisive.

Duckworth it is then!

This guy gets it.

[Progressive Pessimist]

She isn't a bad choice, but I've never really cared for Governors being removed from their position just to take a mostly ceremonial one like Vice President instead.

[BlueGrassKentuckian]

Klobuchar did poorly in the Midwestern state of Iowa despite all of NE Iowa being under a Minnesotan media market. My bets are on Kamala Harris.

[BudgieForce]

Klobuchar did poorly in the Midwestern state of Iowa despite all of NE Iowa being under a Minnesotan media market. My bets are on Kamala Harris.

I'd say Klobuchar did better than expected in a crowded field actually. And Biden considers her endorsement the reason he won the Minnesota primary.

[QAnonKelly]

I don’t know why they’re vetting second year governors. Seems silly to waste a new comer from such a powerful position to a ceremonial one.

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Klobuchar did poorly in the Midwestern state of Iowa despite all of NE Iowa being under a Minnesotan media market. My bets are on Kamala Harris.

I'd say Klobuchar did better than expected in a crowded field actually. And Biden considers her endorsement the reason he won the Minnesota primary.

Yeah, she's popular in Minnesota. She was re-elected easily in 2018 and by the biggest margin out of any statewide candidate.

However, her popularity in MN doesn't translate to other Midwestern states.

[Inmate Trump]

I’m not sure about this one.

I’d prefer a safer option like Klobuchar to appeal to the midwest.