Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Real Texan Politics]

CCM is already DSCc chairperson a

I don't think she'll be the running mate pick either, but this is not a reason why not. There's no reason why this would stop Biden from offering it to her if he thought she was best for the ticket, and there's no reason this would stop her from accepting it.

Another reason why other than Warren and Klobuchar have been mentioned as Veeps, they have been already exposed to coronovirus.  Today, Pence, whom says he has tested negative have been exposed to coronovirus since he has visited that med facility and wont be traveling with Trump; consequently Warren or Klobuchar have immunity from coronavirus and Harris, Abrams, Val Demings dont. That's why Harris and Abrams have pulled back from Veep consideration, while Warren hasnt

The little stranger Cory Booker is back saying strange things.

I for once one-thousand percent agree with Jim Clyburn. Biden should pick an African-American. Black Voters are the reason he beat Sanders so handily in the south and won the Nomination. AA Voters might view this as a slap in the face if Biden picks a White Woman as Veep.
Warren & Klobuchar are bringing nothing to the table. Both States are safe D.
If Biden doesn't pick an AA he will lose NC and GA. At least in case of Demings and Abrams it can make a Difference in GA and FL and if Harris gets picked it will make Difference in a number of States.

Also, Biden needs to think beyond 2020. He needs to pick someone who can win in 2024. Does anyone believe Klobuchar or Warren can beat Pence, Haley among other Republicans in 2024. I don't see it.

Klobuchar could beat Pence or Haley pretty tightly in the midwest which could help her win. Definitely don't see Warren beating them in 2024, same with Kamala.

[Ogre Mage]

Biden goes back fairly far with Whitmer...endorsed her back in 2018.

Yeah, but he's known the others a lot longer.  Klobuchar since she was elected to the Senate in 2006. Harris and Cortez Masto from their State AG days around 2010-15 (their tenures overlapped with Beau Biden's).  Warren since their clash over the 2005 bankruptcy bill and even more after she won her Senate seat in 2012.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Biden goes back fairly far with Whitmer...endorsed her back in 2018.

It’s really not going to be her and 18 months is not “fairly far” in comparison to the other more serious options.

[CookieDamage]

Biden goes back fairly far with Whitmer...endorsed her back in 2018.

When is two years fairly far back?

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/DaryonnJackson/status/1259683134989316096?s=20

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Despite her disappointing Presidential bid, Kamala is going to be a major player in the Democratic Party for many years to come, VEEP or not.

[Devils30]

She is obviously at the top of the list. As a Presidential nominee I thought she would be terrible but as VP I don't see her as a big problem. That said, I think Biden will be leaking a lot of articles like these in the next 2 months. He's had sources say he has great chemistry with Klobuchar, Whitmer as well...he'll keep people guessing to the end.

[Non Swing Voter]

I've said from the beginning and still think it will be Kamala.  On paper it's just too perfect.  She plays well in every state that will decide the election (PA, MI, WI, AZ, NC, FL).  They are either moderate states, have relatively high African American populations, or both.  Maybe Arizona would be the one exception.  But she's from neighboring California so at least she has the west coast thing going for that.  On top of that, I think she would help make Georgia even more competitive than it is.  I don't see how she could hurt the ticket.  She's also more likable than Abrams. 

[Blair]

https://twitter.com/DaryonnJackson/status/1259683134989316096?s=20

I just wish they gave Jim Clyburn the byline for this article

[Mr. Morden]

https://twitter.com/DaryonnJackson/status/1259683134989316096?s=20

From that story:

In interviews, more than two dozen Democrats, including advisers, allies and donors aligned with Biden, returned to Harris as an early frontrunner. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, the favorite among progressives, was also seen as rising above the pack.
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Biden and Harris have spoken privately several times, and a growing contingent of operatives inside and around the presumptive Democratic nominee’s campaign have been making it clear they want her as his pick. Influential donors are joining in the push, seeing the daughter of immigrants from India and Jamaica as the most logical choice to balance a ticket led by a white man in his late 70s. Some of the party’s biggest benefactors, including those who went months rarely hearing from Harris, said they have seen an uptick in contacts from her and people on her behalf.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Also from the article, for the people hoping Jill Biden would block Kamala:

And friends of former second lady Jill Biden — who as recently as March described Harris’ attack as a “punch to the gut” — said they’ve mulled ways for her to telegraph that it wasn’t a deal breaker for the California senator’s chances, perhaps by sharing her posts on social media.

[wbrocks67]

It's fairly obvious that Harris is the clear favorite. And personally, that makes me very happy. She ticks off all the boxes Biden needs.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

[Bidenworth2020]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

To be fair, she and Biden seem to like each other a lot. In a purely political context that might not count for much, but personal relationships are everything to someone like Biden. I am sure he wants someone he trusts fully too after he retires or (god forbid) something happens to him while in office.

[Devils30]

You'll see articles like this for Klobuchar, Warren, Whitmer. It's part of the process.

[wbrocks67]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

Then what are you saying? You literally just said that she has a lot of talent outside her race, so. This comment is so horrific it hurts.

[Mr. Morden]

Not sure what to make of this, since it’s got the hedge word “might”, but CBS News says CCM might not be interested:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/catherine-cortez-masto-joe-biden-vice-president-candidate/

On paper, Cortez Masto seems like the key to a golden ticket. However, multiple sources tell CBS News that Cortez Masto might not be interested. 

But reading further, I’m not sure if people are just inferring this from the fact that she’s doing less than other candidates to promote herself, even behind the scenes:

She has in the past said she's not interested in the job. In November, while taking questions from the press at Nevada Democrats' "First In the West'' dinner, she told CBS News that she would say no if offered the job of running mate. 

CBS News reached out Cortez Masto's office to see if her opinion has changed. They did not respond.   

Former colleagues who spoke to CBS News agreed that it would be out of character for Cortez Masto to hype her own credentials, or focus on any job other than the one she currently holds. 

Some senior Democratic strategists have echoed this, telling CBS News that Cortez Masto isn't someone who would jockey for the number-two place on the ticket. And recently, a source with close knowledge of Cortez Masto's political team confirmed to CBS News that she's "not actively campaigning" to be Biden's running mate — a trait that, this year, seems to set her apart. 

I guess we’ll find out soon enough, since if she actually doesn’t want it, then she’ll just refuse to go through the vetting process.  Presumably if that happens, it’ll leak soon enough, even if she doesn’t confirm it publicly.

[Da2017]

Klobuchar could beat Pence or Haley pretty tightly in the midwest which could help her win. Definitely don't see Warren beating them in 2024, same with Kamala.

Klobuchar does not have the charisma to win the presidency. Vp she be ok.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

Then what are you saying? You literally just said that she has a lot of talent outside her race, so. This comment is so horrific it hurts.

Her leg up over Klobuchar and Whitmer is that she’s black. Both of these women have a lot of talent, but they’re not being boosted by their perceived ability to turn out a racial group.

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Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

Then what are you saying? You literally just said that she has a lot of talent outside her race, so. This comment is so horrific it hurts.

Her leg up over Klobuchar and Whitmer is that she’s black. Both of these women have a lot of talent, but they’re not being boosted by their perceived ability to turn out a racial group.

Klobuchar is bland. Also, Whitmer is a first term governor. She's only been a governor for 1.5 years. It would be kind of trashy to just ditch her state so soon to be VP.

[Sir Mohamed]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

Fair question, it's for sure helpful because Dems are more focused on racial and gender balance on tickets these days. It also played a role Obama became such a phenomena in 2008. Same with Butti to an extent. Would a South Bend, IN mayor be in the mix for a major contender as prez? For sure not. But him being a charismatic gay man who would be the 1st openly gay candidate or prez had some excitement factor. The same would be true if a Muslim or Indian candidate with charisma came along. VP candidates and cabinet officers have not always been selected by resume alone. Palin, as an extreme example, was hardly qualified for VP, but she got selected for the GOP base, which had reservations about McCain's moderate credentials.

[Ogre Mage]

Not sure what to make of this, since it’s got the hedge word “might”, but CBS News says CCM might not be interested:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/catherine-cortez-masto-joe-biden-vice-president-candidate/

On paper, Cortez Masto seems like the key to a golden ticket. However, multiple sources tell CBS News that Cortez Masto might not be interested.

But reading further, I’m not sure if people are just inferring this from the fact that she’s doing less than other candidates to promote herself, even behind the scenes:

She has in the past said she's not interested in the job. In November, while taking questions from the press at Nevada Democrats' "First In the West'' dinner, she told CBS News that she would say no if offered the job of running mate.

CBS News reached out Cortez Masto's office to see if her opinion has changed. They did not respond.  

Former colleagues who spoke to CBS News agreed that it would be out of character for Cortez Masto to hype her own credentials, or focus on any job other than the one she currently holds.

Some senior Democratic strategists have echoed this, telling CBS News that Cortez Masto isn't someone who would jockey for the number-two place on the ticket. And recently, a source with close knowledge of Cortez Masto's political team confirmed to CBS News that she's "not actively campaigning" to be Biden's running mate — a trait that, this year, seems to set her apart.

I guess we’ll find out soon enough, since if she actually doesn’t want it, then she’ll just refuse to go through the vetting process.  Presumably if that happens, it’ll leak soon enough, even if she doesn’t confirm it publicly.

If Cortez Masto was flat-out against being VP, wouldn't she have told Harry Reid to shut down campaigning for her?  Because he clearly has been:

Reid has additionally encouraged a new behind the scenes effort to get national Latino advocacy groups to support Cortez Masto for vice president

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/biden-tells-harry-reid-nevada-sen-catherine-cortez-masto-is-in-his-top-3-for-vice-president/

From the article you posted:

She has in the past said she's not interested in the job. In November, while taking questions from the press at Nevada Democrats' "First In the West'' dinner, she told CBS News that she would say no if offered the job of running mate.

CBS News reached out Cortez Masto's office to see if her opinion has changed. They did not respond.

 

That was an opportunity for her to issue a Shermanesque statement and she didn't take it.

But if she is not interested in maneuvering to get the running mate slot, that probably lowers her chances.  We can certainly tell Warren, Harris and Klobuchar have no such hesitations!

[Beet]

Awful. Harris does not help with progressives, is not from a swing state, doesn't help appeal to Latinos, has a weak electoral record, failed miserably in the primaries, and yeah she's a cop with some smelly corruption issues swirling in her past. Polls of African American voters show they are more enthusiastic about Abrams and even Warren. Please anyone else.

[Devils30]

Jonathan Martin
@jmartNYT
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The @KamalaHarris folks put out word to @AsteadWesley+ @ccadelago that she's overhauled team in an effort to send Biden a "look, no more drama here" msg.  But it also highlights her tendency to churn thru staff, which is why she had so few loyalists on campaign in first place.

Interesting...so the Politico article was from Harris' sources more than Biden. Biden is doing a good job keeping us all guessing, it will probably be Harris, Klobuchar or Whitmer but he seems to be in regular contact with all 3 and more.

[Ogre Mage]

Would Kamala Harris be at the top of the list if she wasn’t black? I’m not saying she hasn’t gotten into the AG’s office and Senate on anything but her own hard work and political talent. But the #1 reason that people keep giving for her to be the VP isn’t her record or anything, but because she’d “help with black voters” AKA she’s black.

We could just as easily say one of the reasons Obama picked Biden was because he was white man who could connect with blue-collar whites.  But of course he became a senator on his own hard work and political talent.