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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2019, 11:08:42 PM »

Harris had the most CBC endorsements. They will definitely put pressure on Joe to make Kamala his VP.

Abrams is running for Governor again. No other younger woman will get as much attention as Harris.

Tammy Duckworth, Tammy Baldwin, Sally Yates (not young but still)?
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2019, 12:17:25 AM »

Harris had the most CBC endorsements. They will definitely put pressure on Joe to make Kamala his VP.

Abrams is running for Governor again. No other younger woman will get as much attention as Harris.

Tammy Duckworth, Tammy Baldwin, Sally Yates (not young but still)?
Nope. Kamala was falling in the polls but she was still well liked people just liked Warren, Biden, and Pete more. Kamala will be the reverse of what Biden was for Obama. She will help with suburban white women and non-white voters in the Sun Belt while he works whatever magic he thinks he has with WWC in the Midwest.

Kamala had one of the highest proportions of female donors and in the latest Morning Consult she had the highest proportion of non-white supporters (47 percent of her supporters were non white compared to 35 for Biden and 20 for Warren).
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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2019, 01:10:47 AM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.
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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2019, 01:32:15 AM »

Biden also is pandering to the AA voters in SC, Bloomberg is still a threat in the South. Harris has no foreign policy experience and has only 2 yrs in the Senate. Yates will is a stronger pick, but who knows with Biden
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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2019, 08:21:59 PM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2019, 08:40:49 PM »

Biden isnt the nominee yet
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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2019, 10:12:47 PM »

Since she dropped out, he had to say something, and he isn't going to say "no, I'm not considering her" as that would just put him under more fire. Harris is a great pick for Biden. Yang would be a better option as his outsider status softens Biden's hard core politician and swampy past.
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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2019, 10:31:33 PM »

She was always out to be honest
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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2019, 10:43:16 PM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
Biden’s involvement in the crime bill has not penetrated at all and don’t expect it to happen in the general. He is a man and will simply skate on things that Clinton could not.

Harris was not a tough on crime, War on Drugs Democrat. I believe she can articulate this to the general election electorate without obsessing over the Bernie Twitter Nazis.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2019, 12:17:51 AM »

Of course he wouldn't say she was out of contention, but I hope he doesn't pick her. She has no substance and no vision - she plays the worst kind of identity politics that makes even Hillary look tame in comparison.
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« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2019, 02:10:01 AM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
He is a man and will simply skate on things that Clinton could not.


This is depressingly, and conveniently, true.
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« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2019, 06:57:27 PM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
Biden’s involvement in the crime bill has not penetrated at all and don’t expect it to happen in the general. He is a man and will simply skate on things that Clinton could not.

Harris was not a tough on crime, War on Drugs Democrat. I believe she can articulate this to the general election electorate without obsessing over the Bernie Twitter Nazis.

I hope you're right. If Biden gets nominated, and manages to beat Trump, I agree with you that it will almost certainly be due to him being a mostly inoffensive, boring white man who is considered more tolerable than Trump by the electorate even in spite of his faults. That's a large part of why he is doing the best in early general election polls which in turn may also be fueling his primary support.
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« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2019, 06:10:02 AM »

The Veepstakes isnt like it once was, most candidates,  ran for Prez and failed and show no interest in being Veep. Harris brings no electability to the ticket, she is from Cali and hasnt served longer than 2 yrs to bring anything like foreign policy to the table. She would bring experience to a cabinet position, but Biden or Bernie would be best to pick Yates, whom is from GA
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« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2019, 06:54:55 AM »

The Veepstakes isnt like it once was, most candidates,  ran for Prez and failed and show no interest in being Veep. Harris brings no electability to the ticket, she is from Cali and hasnt served longer than 2 yrs to bring anything like foreign policy to the table. She would bring experience to a cabinet position, but Biden or Bernie would be best to pick Yates, whom is from GA
Read the room. Harris’s exit has had major impact on this race. Biden needs to choose her. There is no one that balances the ticket AND brings major press, attention, and a fervent fan base to Biden like Harris.

And stop name dropping Yates. She has no interest in electoral politics and has said this a million times.
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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2019, 04:21:08 PM »

No rancor, he's being classy. This is why he has the character to be president.
And I believe it is authentic. From everything I have heard about Joe Biden, I feel confident that he really is a good guy. I’m not convinced that he is a great politician, but I do believe he is a good guy.
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« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2019, 04:33:52 PM »

The Veepstakes isnt like it once was, most candidates,  ran for Prez and failed and show no interest in being Veep. Harris brings no electability to the ticket, she is from Cali and hasnt served longer than 2 yrs to bring anything like foreign policy to the table. She would bring experience to a cabinet position, but Biden or Bernie would be best to pick Yates, whom is from GA
Read the room. Harris’s exit has had major impact on this race. Biden needs to choose her. There is no one that balances the ticket AND brings major press, attention, and a fervent fan base to Biden like Harris.

And stop name dropping Yates. She has no interest in electoral politics and has said this a million times.

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« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2019, 04:52:32 PM »

The Veepstakes isnt like it once was, most candidates,  ran for Prez and failed and show no interest in being Veep. Harris brings no electability to the ticket, she is from Cali and hasnt served longer than 2 yrs to bring anything like foreign policy to the table. She would bring experience to a cabinet position, but Biden or Bernie would be best to pick Yates, whom is from GA
Read the room. Harris’s exit has had major impact on this race. Biden needs to choose her. There is no one that balances the ticket AND brings major press, attention, and a fervent fan base to Biden like Harris.

And stop name dropping Yates. She has no interest in electoral politics and has said this a million times.
She would win no voters for Biden that Duckworth or Yates would not. She has no real appeal Nationwide, and any she did have has been ruined by this run for president.
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« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »

The only reason why Biden is considering her due to fact he is pandering to AA, in SC, once Biden secure Super Tuesday delegates, where Bloomberg isnt a a threat, he drops her name and goes with Sally Yates
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« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2019, 10:15:38 AM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
Trump won't outflank them. He wanted the Central Park five killed.
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« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2019, 02:29:34 PM »

The Veepstakes isnt like it once was, most candidates,  ran for Prez and failed and show no interest in being Veep. Harris brings no electability to the ticket, she is from Cali and hasnt served longer than 2 yrs to bring anything like foreign policy to the table. She would bring experience to a cabinet position, but Biden or Bernie would be best to pick Yates, whom is from GA
Read the room. Harris’s exit has had major impact on this race. Biden needs to choose her. There is no one that balances the ticket AND brings major press, attention, and a fervent fan base to Biden like Harris.

And stop name dropping Yates. She has no interest in electoral politics and has said this a million times.
She would win no voters for Biden that Duckworth or Yates would not. She has no real appeal Nationwide, and any she did have has been ruined by this run for president.
I don’t believe that at all.
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« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2019, 02:31:07 PM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
Trump won't outflank them. He wanted the Central Park five killed.

You mean lynched. 
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« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2019, 06:00:39 PM »

I really think this would be a killer ticket. Biden is arguably the strongest Dem already on his own, and Kamala has so much appeal. There's no way she's not at or near the top of his VP list. The most loyal Democratic voter group is African American women, so the party kind of "owes" it to black women at this point to have one on the ticket. I could also see Kamala the prosecutor destroying Mike Pence in the VP debate. There's also the added benefit of not having to worry about her safe Senate seat.

My only worry is that her prosecutor background combined with Biden's role in crafting the 1994 Crime Bill could cause Trump to outflank them on criminal justice reform. That possibly could diminish turnout among some black voters.
Trump won't outflank them. He wanted the Central Park five killed.

Very true, there are numerous other examples of his overt bigotry that can be cited, but too many Americans didn't care about those back in 2016 and they probably will care even less in 2020.
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« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2019, 05:19:29 PM »
« Edited: December 30, 2019, 05:28:18 PM by Roll Roons »

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/476280-biden-would-consider-republican-for-vp-but-i-cant-think-of-one-right-now?fbclid=IwAR36DQabxS_J-FgFP6I1o0i7KuZCAi_Tf2qXzTMSXbx1WzTyNfXeUOgsWqo

Not sure who he might go with. Condi? Murkowski? Kasich? Romney? Hogan? Baker? Scott? Curbelo?
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« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2019, 05:22:59 PM »

Way to depress base turnout!
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« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2019, 05:23:56 PM »

He's not really going to do that and the article doesn't even say that he's "thinking" about it. He gave a throwaway answer so that the media didn't spin his answer into some sort of scandal about him hating Republican voters. The media loves to use these sort of questions to try and create drama for Democrats.
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