Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[BidenHarris2020]

The video is so much worse, my goodness. Something straight out of North Korea
https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1289325268918661122?s=19

[Los Angeles Swag Boss]

There's a lot of posts here about a bunch of different things, but I'm just going to put the 4 separate articles that all have independent sourcing about where we are here. Here they are in order:

Thursday 7/30 Night -- Amie Parnes, The Hill
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509483-vp-hopefuls-jockey-for-position-as-bidens-final-decision-nears
Decision Aug. 10th week and the finalists are Harris, Bass, Rice, and Warren. Parnes reported later that Duckworth is still in the running, but is not a finalist.

Friday 7/31 Afternoon -- Zeleny and Lee, CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/joe-biden-running-mate/index.html
Decision Aug. 10th week and the finalists are Harris, Bass, and Rice. Outlines others that are in contention including Warren, Duckworth, and Demings.

Friday 7/31 Afternoon -- Martin, Burns, and Glueck, New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/politics/joseph-biden-vice-president.html
Decision Aug. 10th week and the finalists are Harris, Bass, Rice, and Warren. Biden doing 1-in-1 interviews next week. Outlines others that are in contention including Duckworth, Demings, Whitmer, MLG, and others.

Friday 7/31 Evening -- Alexandra Jaffe, AP
https://apnews.com/8c5db0c580eca9c99e0ce337f4522f73
Decision Aug. 10th week and the finalists are Harris, Bass, and Rice. Outlines how Obama and Biden have talked. Also outlines that Harris' team is pushing back with Biden's team directly.



So all of this tells us a few things:
- Aug 10th week is when it will come
- Biden hasn't decided finalists yet, but they will most likely be Harris, Bass, and Rice with a possibility of Warren.
- Biden will meet with finalists next week.
- Biden is taking his time with this decision.... as he always does.

[Heebie Jeebie]

IN OTHER NEWS...

I’m watching the Biden/Warren fundraiser, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the pick when it eventually gets announced. They get along really well — a lot better than I was expecting.

If not for the Floyd killing, it would have been Warren.

[Morning in Atlas]

Y'all need to stop acting is the KHive is that big of a thing. It's just like far left Rose Twitter. Twitter does not = real life.

That's the problem. The establishment and the media don't treat Rose Twitter the same way they treat the KHive.

If a KHive person says something offensive on Twitter, it's treated as it should be. It's properly dismissed as the unimportant, terminally Online BS that it is, and we focus on the issues like we should.

If a Rose Twitter rando causes a ruckus, it leaps off of Twitter and into real life. The establishment and the media expects Bernie to come down from his ivory tower and personally condemn it, whether it's from an actual surrogate or a literal random tweet from Bern Person. We even had someone try to say Bernie could stop the Tara Reade allegations - which she continued to make despite his encouragement to support Biden.

Even the old-fashioned "Well Bernie's the only one connected to these elements" argument falls apart, considering multiple members of Kamala's inner circle follow the toxic elements of the KHive. If Jane Sanders followed someone involved in doxing rival supporters, it would headline all the major news outlets and the MacArthurs of the forum would be buzzing around it. Douglas Emhoff does it and nobody bats an eye.

If Cenk or one of the Chapo Crew followed someone who made death threats towards Biden/Pete/Bloomberg/Harris, it'd be proof of the dirtbag left and the toxicity of my movement. Joy Reid follows someone who made death threats towards Bernie and becomes MSNBC's #1 rising star.

Obviously, you're very consistent on this issue. Most of the Atlas KHive is as well. However, the national political establishment in this country is not. If you aren't following MA-Sen, Joe Kennedy is currently trying to dredge up random Tweets to paint Markey supporters with the same brush they painted Bernie's with. I'm not advocating for this expectation to be the norm. I just find it interesting how the establishment isn't concerned with incivility when it's coming from their people.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Bass was my pick until this, but this is absolutely disqualifying. I'd take Harris or Rice over her at this point.

My personal fave is Duckworth.

[BidenHarris2020]

IN OTHER NEWS...

I’m watching the Biden/Warren fundraiser, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the pick when it eventually gets announced. They get along really well — a lot better than I was expecting.

If not for the Floyd killing, it would have been Warren.

That withstanding, the optics of an old white ticket are horrible.

[ultraviolet]

Harris and Duckworth are definitely the best two Biden can choose, and I’d be very happy with either.

[Lincoln Republican]

If Biden wants a black woman, he should pick Karen Bass

Biden will pick Karen Bass

[BidenHarris2020]

If Biden wants a black woman, he should pick Karen Bass

The Scientologist?

[Heebie Jeebie]

IN OTHER NEWS...

I’m watching the Biden/Warren fundraiser, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the pick when it eventually gets announced. They get along really well — a lot better than I was expecting.

If not for the Floyd killing, it would have been Warren.

That withstanding, the optics of an old white ticket are horrible.

Alternatively, you could argue that having a young, minority name on the ticket just serves to highlight how old and white Biden is.

[krb08]

Harris, Rice, and Bass are all flawed picks, with Harris being the least flawed, imo. But it's been clear as day from the start that Duckworth is the best choice. So WHY is it looking less and less likely to be her? It's so obvious that she's the only one who could legitimately add to the ticket.

Im sorry but this is pure BS


Say what you will about Harris but I don't see anything close to the kinds of problems that both Bass or Rice has. To even put her in same category with those 2 is ridiculous

as far as Im concerned at the this point Biden would be fool if does not pick Harris or Duckworth
All those other choices would be a disaster for both him and the party

You’re right that Harris is much better than them. I specifically said she’s the least flawed of those three, and I only grouped them together because they seem to be the most likely choices. I would definitely prefer her to Rice or Bass by miles, but would still be disappointed if she’s the pick. Duckworth is the perfect choice.

[Roronoa D. Law]

IN OTHER NEWS...

I’m watching the Biden/Warren fundraiser, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the pick when it eventually gets announced. They get along really well — a lot better than I was expecting.

If not for the Floyd killing, it would have been Warren.

That withstanding, the optics of an old white ticket are horrible.

Alternatively, you could argue that having a young, minority name on the ticket just serves to highlight how old and white Biden is.

You could also argue that any Democratic ticket with two white people loses.

[Devils30]

The Dems identity politics has set them up into picking not even close to one of the better potential candidates. I sort of expect a Biden win and a big GOP comeback in 2022.

[Heebie Jeebie]

The Dems identity politics has set them up into picking not even close to one of the better potential candidates. I sort of expect a Biden win and a big GOP comeback in 2022.

Who do you think would be the pick if not for "Dem identity politics"?

[Storr]

Harris and Duckworth are definitely the best two Biden can choose, and I’d be very happy with either.

I was just about to type this, so I'll repost it instead.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Warren should’ve been the nominee this year and should be the VP pick as well. I’m fine with VP Harris, as she’s by far and away qualified to step in as President. I’d just prefer a caretaker VP to match Biden’s caretaker President role.

My opposition to Harris is purely long-term. I want a competitive primary in 2024, and if she pulls a Gore/Hillary and clears the field then the Democratic Party is screwed out of the post-Obama reckoning that we put off this year in choosing Biden. We need to have a primary (without the influence of a looming Trump re-election or Biden/Bernie blocking off both lanes in the party) to decide the direction of the party.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

The Dems identity politics has set them up into picking not even close to one of the better potential candidates. I sort of expect a Biden win and a big GOP comeback in 2022.

Who do you think would be the pick if not for "Dem identity politics"?

It’d probably be Klobuchar or a Whitmer.

[Devils30]

The Dems identity politics has set them up into picking not even close to one of the better potential candidates. I sort of expect a Biden win and a big GOP comeback in 2022.

Who do you think would be the pick if not for "Dem identity politics"?

It’d probably be Klobuchar or a Whitmer.

All this will do is hurt the party when it doesn't put its best team on the field.

[DisneyDem]

I’m still giving up on bass. She’s not Like a member or anything. She was playing into A powerful constituency in LA. As another contender put so eloquently, “that’s politics“

[Storr]

IN OTHER NEWS...

I’m watching the Biden/Warren fundraiser, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the pick when it eventually gets announced. They get along really well — a lot better than I was expecting.

If not for the Floyd killing, it would have been Warren.

That withstanding, the optics of an old white ticket are horrible.

Alternatively, you could argue that having a young, minority name on the ticket just serves to highlight how old and white Biden is.

You could also argue that any Democratic ticket with two white people loses.

21st Century Presidential elections:

Dem Tickets with two white people: all losses

Dem Tickets without two white people: all wins

Seems pretty conclusive to me!

[Heebie Jeebie]

The Dems identity politics has set them up into picking not even close to one of the better potential candidates. I sort of expect a Biden win and a big GOP comeback in 2022.

Who do you think would be the pick if not for "Dem identity politics"?

It’d probably be Klobuchar or a Whitmer.

Two women?  Aside from identity politics, why go with them and not someone like Bob Casey? 

[Devils30]

Well Biden did say he would pick a woman. I can just see Kamala reprising Hillary's campaign in 2024, running on all corporate identity politics and Rice/Bass being nothing but lightning rods. An identity obsessed group of well-connected people needs to be knocked down a notch.

[Heebie Jeebie]

Warren should’ve been the nominee this year and should be the VP pick as well. I’m fine with VP Harris, as she’s by far and away qualified to step in as President. I’d just prefer a caretaker VP to match Biden’s caretaker President role.

My opposition to Harris is purely long-term. I want a competitive primary in 2024, and if she pulls a Gore/Hillary and clears the field then the Democratic Party is screwed out of the post-Obama reckoning that we put off this year in choosing Biden. We need to have a primary (without the influence of a looming Trump re-election or Biden/Bernie blocking off both lanes in the party) to decide the direction of the party.

This doesn't make any sense. For one, there's always a looming Republican threat. And two, how is it that Biden and Sanders "blocked both lanes"?  Democrats were free to vote for literally dozens of other candidates. Maybe Democrats just wanted to be represented by the actual vote getters.

[Roronoa D. Law]

I have no problem with Duckworth or Warren being VP but it would be a missed opportunity. Black people have been one of the most loyal constituencies for Democrats for the past 100 years. I think we deserve a spot on the ticket this time especially since Biden will not be here if it weren't for South Carolina. Picking Duckworth or Warren will basically just be telling us that "You were going to show up anyway".

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Apparently the Warren fundraiser has 40,000 people watching at the moment.