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Question: In which of these three states is the incumbent most likely to lose?
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Delaware
 
#2
Illinois
 
#3
Massachusetts
 
#4
Minnesota
 
#5
New Jersey
 
#6
New Mexico
 
#7
Oregon
 
#8
Rhode Island
 
#9
Virginia
 
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Alaska
 
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Arkansas
 
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Idaho
 
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Kansas
 
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Kentucky
 
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Louisiana
 
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Mississippi
 
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Nebraska
 
#18
Oklahoma
 
#19
South Carolina
 
#20
South Dakota
 
#21
Tennessee
 
#22
Texas
 
#23
West Virginia
 
#24
Wyoming
 
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« on: December 15, 2018, 01:50:43 PM »

Which of the races listed above do you think is most likely to be flipped? I only included races rated as Likely or Safe by both Cook and Sabato (except for MT, which I decided to exclude because I felt like it would be by far the most popular choice, though I could be wrong).
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2018, 01:55:24 PM »

Minnesota Kansas and Texas.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2018, 01:57:22 PM »

Write-in: Maine
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2018, 01:58:37 PM »

GOD NO
I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED KENTUCKY INSTEAD OF KANSAS.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2018, 02:09:39 PM »


To clarify: the poll purposely excludes states like Maine that are widely regarded as being in play (even if the incumbent is generally seen as the favorite).
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2018, 02:23:44 PM »

Massachusetts with Baker.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2018, 03:06:25 PM »

Kansas if Kobach is the Republican nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2018, 03:45:26 PM »

1. Texas (only if Trump wins here by less than 5)
2. Minnesota (only if Trump wins here by at least 3 points)
3. Alaska
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2018, 03:46:45 PM »

Texas And Kansas.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2018, 04:13:18 PM »

Pat Roberts could theoretically lose a primary, but that's about it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2018, 04:34:30 PM »

KS
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2018, 04:35:39 PM »

TX, AK, KS were the ones that came to mind
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2018, 04:40:00 PM »

Minnesota, Texas and Kansas (accidentally voted Kentucky).
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2018, 04:41:18 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2018, 04:55:22 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2018, 05:56:58 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Markey has a D next to his name. That's all they need to know.
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2018, 06:06:05 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Parties running popular former governors for the senate in states that are extremely partisan against them don't work as well as you'd think.

Ex: Phil Bredesen, Linda Lingle, Mitt Romney 1994.
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2018, 06:10:15 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Parties running popular former governors for the senate in states that are extremely partisan against them don't work as well as you'd think.

Ex: Phil Bredesen, Linda Lingle, Mitt Romney 1994.

Romney wasn't a former governor back then? He was elected in 2002.
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2018, 06:11:18 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Parties running popular former governors for the senate in states that are extremely partisan against them don't work as well as you'd think.

Ex: Phil Bredesen, Linda Lingle, Mitt Romney 1994.

Romney wasn't a former governor back then? He was elected in 2002.

Probably he mixed him up with Bill Weld.
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2018, 06:14:08 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Parties running popular former governors for the senate in states that are extremely partisan against them don't work as well as you'd think.

Ex: Phil Bredesen, Linda Lingle, Mitt Romney 1994.

Baker will still be the sitting governor in 2020, though I agree that he won't win if he runs for Senate, especially with Trump at the top of the ballot.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2018, 06:32:06 PM »

Speaking as someone who lives in Massachusetts, I think that Charlie Baker would defeat Ed Markey if he chose to run. Nobody knows who Markey is, but everyone loves Baker.

Parties running popular former governors for the senate in states that are extremely partisan against them don't work as well as you'd think.

Ex: Phil Bredesen, Linda Lingle, Mitt Romney 1994.

Tbf, Baker will still be the incumbent governor in 2020, but yeah, obviously it would be Safe D even if he ran. If this were a red state, however, the popular incumbent Democratic governor would almost certainly win.
No they wouldn't lmao, John Bel Edwards would get destroyed if he tried running for Senate.
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2018, 06:41:42 PM »

TX, KS, and SC (the real hot take).
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2018, 06:47:29 PM »

Tbf, Baker will still be the incumbent governor in 2020, but yeah, obviously it would be Safe D even if he ran. If this were a red state, however, the popular incumbent Democratic governor would almost certainly win.
No they wouldn't lmao, John Bel Edwards would get destroyed if he tried running for Senate.

There’s no way he’d get "destroyed". I doubt he’d be able to beat Kennedy (possible in a Democratic wave year, but unlikely), but I could definitely see him beating Cassidy or winning an open seat.
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2018, 06:57:17 PM »

Tbf, Baker will still be the incumbent governor in 2020, but yeah, obviously it would be Safe D even if he ran. If this were a red state, however, the popular incumbent Democratic governor would almost certainly win.
No they wouldn't lmao, John Bel Edwards would get destroyed if he tried running for Senate.

There’s no way he’d get "destroyed". I doubt he’d be able to beat Kennedy (possible in a Democratic wave year, but unlikely), but I could definitely see him beating Cassidy or winning an open seat.
There's no chance he'd beat Cassidy. Red state Democrats like McCaskill, Donnelly, and Heitkamp all lost by over 5 point margins in a D+8 environment, so why would Edwards do better than all of them as a challenger and in a (probably) less favorable national environment? I know Bullock certainly has a chance of defeating Daines should he run for Senate, but just because it's true in Montana doesn't mean it's true in other red states.
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2018, 07:22:09 PM »
« Edited: December 15, 2018, 07:25:36 PM by Polarized Elastic Libertarian MT Treasurer »

There's no chance he'd beat Cassidy. Red state Democrats like McCaskill, Donnelly, and Heitkamp all lost by over 5 point margins in a D+8 environment, so why would Edwards do better than all of them as a challenger and in a (probably) less favorable national environment? I know Bullock certainly has a chance of defeating Daines should he run for Senate, but just because it's true in Montana doesn't mean it's true in other red states.

It’s pretty obvious that McCaskill and Heitkamp ran godawful campaigns and were completely out of touch with their respective states. If anything, they should have lost by a lot more than they did on election day. Heitkamp actually outperformed Clinton by 25 points(!), and Bredesen did like 15 points better than Clinton in an "inelastic" Southern state even though "polarization" in red states is supposedly at an all-time high. JBE wouldn’t be a shoo-in by any means, but there’s no doubt in my mind that he’d make the race legitimately competitive, especially against a mediocre incumbent like Cassidy.
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