If Manchin Ran For Governor In 2020 Against Justice, Would He Win?
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« on: November 18, 2018, 02:06:25 PM »

He has expressed interest in returning to the governorship, doubt it happens, but if it does, could he take down Justice in 2020? I would say yes. Weaker opponent, more local and less partisan race, the national gop won’t put nearly as much effort in to stop him as they did this race for the senate seat, etc. So I could see him taking Justice down. Thought?
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 02:08:45 PM »

I thought West Virginia governor term limits were on a lifetime basis.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 02:10:40 PM »

Nope, you just can’t serve more than two terms back to back. But you can come back later and run. In fact he was considering it in 2016.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2018, 02:43:55 PM »

Justice is pretty unpopular, so yes.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2018, 02:45:32 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 03:49:37 PM »

No, WVA is a R state, now.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 04:25:28 PM »

I don't think Manchin would win. He got an F rating by the NRA and he flip-flopped his position on Planned Parenthood (he first opposed funding for Planned Parenthood and now supports it).
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 05:09:30 PM »

Here's another reason I think the GOP would pretty much just let him take it, they would easily pickup another senate seat.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 08:28:49 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 01:33:45 PM »



http://wvmetronews.com/2019/01/11/manchin-considering-running-for-governor-again/

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 03:33:24 PM »

I think against the walking bad choices magnet that is Jim Justice, Manchin has a chance.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 04:01:00 PM »

Here's another reason I think the GOP would pretty much just let him take it, they would easily pickup another senate seat.

Yeah, the trade off here is great for the GOP.  Why would Dems rather have a dinky state governorship rather than 1% of the U.S. Senate? 
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 04:01:33 PM »

Yes, and he would win by +5 / + 10 margin.

GOP will be grateful for the pick-up in the senate.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 04:42:29 PM »

He'd lose, so resigning the Senate seat isn't really an issue.

I think a Manchin run forces Justice to retire and allows a more competent Republican to run instead.

Evan Jenkins (R) 52%
Joe Manchin (D) 46%
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 07:28:43 PM »

Yes, and he would win by +5 / + 10 margin.

GOP will be grateful for the pick-up in the senate.

The GOP would change the Law and make it a special election, and Ojeda, who is a decorated Vet can run against whomever the GOP will put up.

Justice should have never changed parties, and we should prevent this from happening again, by the Dems winning Senate and Governorship
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2019, 07:30:37 PM »

I thought West Virginia governor term limits were on a lifetime basis.

You seem to forget Daddy Moore served 12 years as WV Governor from January 13th, 1969 to January 17th, 1977 & again from January 14th, 1985 to January 16th, 1989.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2019, 01:35:33 PM »

I think he is going to let his ego get in the way and actually do it

http://wvmetronews.com/2019/03/19/manchin-vs-justice/
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2019, 03:37:11 PM »


If he somehow jumps in (I doubt it) & wins in 2020, he could appoint his replacement in the United States Senate.

TX: Price Daniel (D) appointed a replacement to his US Senate seat after winning the Governorship in 1956.

CA: Pete Wilson (R) appointed John Seymour (R) to his US Senate seat after winning the Governorship in 1990.

NJ: Jon Corzine (D) appointed Menendez to his US Senate seat after winning the Governorship in 2005.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2019, 06:01:49 PM »


How did Manchin win in 2018, then?
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM »

This is West Virginia and Justice is not a lobbyist


No, Manchin loses by 5-7
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2019, 02:39:17 PM »

Manchin could win, but GOP has legislative dominance and Dems dont have a deep Senate bench aside from AL, AZ, CO and TX. One seat margin of error in Senate races could spell defeat in the Senate, due to candidates running for Prez. Ojeda can win a special, but should do it in 2024, after 2022, Senate class than 2020. Where Dems are assured a majority in 2022
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2019, 04:04:49 PM »

https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-governors-q4-2018/

According to Morning Consult, Justice's JA was 45/38. I don't know where the narrative that he's unpopular came from.
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2019, 07:50:44 PM »

Justice may be unpopular but it isn't worth him abandoning his seat. Don't f*** this up Manchin! Just be happy with where you are.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2019, 06:11:03 AM »


Yeah, the trade off here is great for the GOP.  Why would Dems rather have a dinky state governorship rather than 1% of the U.S. Senate? 
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2019, 04:17:07 PM »

Manchin could only barely beat Fat Pat and his -20 approval rating, so why would he be able to beat Justice?
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