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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2018, 04:11:41 PM »

Hastings, Lipinski, Lynch and Case should be the top priorities. Gabbard, Cuellar and Jackson-Lee should be primaried, but they are likely all but unbeatable. Clarke will likely receive a strong primary challenge, although I don't really think she "needs" one.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2018, 10:29:35 PM »


Is there any person in Laredo who would dare to run against Henry Cuellar? I'm deeply skeptical. Webb County is not a place conducive to people bucking the preference of those in power.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2018, 10:37:34 PM »

Before the events of the past few days the only rationale for primarying Lynch was knee-jerk EMILY's List litmus-testing and/or thinking his "style" was too old-fashioned or whatever, but now that he's joined this quixotic conservadem brinksmanship over the Speakership I'm much more willing to accept that his district could probably do better. He's still not nearly as odious as Flawless Beautiful Seth.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2018, 02:20:15 AM »

Before the events of the past few days the only rationale for primarying Lynch was knee-jerk EMILY's List litmus-testing and/or thinking his "style" was too old-fashioned or whatever, but now that he's joined this quixotic conservadem brinksmanship over the Speakership I'm much more willing to accept that his district could probably do better. He's still not nearly as odious as Flawless Beautiful Seth.

Voting against Obamacare wasn't enough?
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2018, 04:24:49 AM »

Before the events of the past few days the only rationale for primarying Lynch was knee-jerk EMILY's List litmus-testing and/or thinking his "style" was too old-fashioned or whatever, but now that he's joined this quixotic conservadem brinksmanship over the Speakership I'm much more willing to accept that his district could probably do better. He's still not nearly as odious as Flawless Beautiful Seth.

Voting against Obamacare wasn't enough?

That was nearly 10 years ago.

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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2018, 11:07:14 PM »

Before the events of the past few days the only rationale for primarying Lynch was knee-jerk EMILY's List litmus-testing and/or thinking his "style" was too old-fashioned or whatever, but now that he's joined this quixotic conservadem brinksmanship over the Speakership I'm much more willing to accept that his district could probably do better. He's still not nearly as odious as Flawless Beautiful Seth.

Voting against Obamacare wasn't enough?

Lynch voted for the House bill--which had the public option--and then against the Senate bill because he didn't believe that it comprised substantive reform. If anything he voted against Obamacare from the left.

But, as beesley said, that feels like an eternity ago and apparently more recently Lynch started shilling for charter schools or something in addition to this Speakership thing. Ick.
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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2018, 08:29:14 PM »

Before the events of the past few days the only rationale for primarying Lynch was knee-jerk EMILY's List litmus-testing and/or thinking his "style" was too old-fashioned or whatever, but now that he's joined this quixotic conservadem brinksmanship over the Speakership I'm much more willing to accept that his district could probably do better. He's still not nearly as odious as Flawless Beautiful Seth.

Voting against Obamacare wasn't enough?

Lynch voted for the House bill--which had the public option--and then against the Senate bill because he didn't believe that it comprised substantive reform. If anything he voted against Obamacare from the left.

But, as beesley said, that feels like an eternity ago and apparently more recently Lynch started shilling for charter schools or something in addition to this Speakership thing. Ick.

He also voted for that anti-refugee biil in 2015.
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 12:38:51 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2018, 12:42:25 PM by GoldenMainer »

My belief is that we need our moderates in the redder districts and we need progressives in our solid blue districts to A) win as many seats as possible and B) prevent our party from moving too far to the right. Below is a list of Blue Dog and New Dem. representatives in seats that are at least D+12. Other factors come into play in these districts but this is a working list of where to start in my opinion.

Lou Correa (Blue dog in a D+15 district)
David Scott (Blue dog in a D+20 district)
Mike Thompson (Blue dog in a D+21 district)

Gerry Connolly ("New Dem" in a D+15)
Don Beyer ("New Dem" in a D+21)
Anthony Brown ("New Dem" in a D+28)
Tony Cardenas ("New Dem" in a D+29)
Susan Davis ("New Dem" in a D+14)
Eliot Engel ("New Dem" in a D+24)
Brenda Lawrence ("New Dem" in a D+30)
Al Lawson ("New Dem" in a D+12)
Gregory Meeks ("New Dem" in a D+37)
Donald Norcross ("New Dem" in a D+13)
Mike Quigley ("New Dem" in a D+20)
Adam Schiff ("New Dem in a D+23)
Terri Sewell ("New Dem" in a D+20)
Norma Torres ("New Dem" in a D+19)
Juan Vargas ("New Dem" in a D+22)
Marc Veasey ("New Dem" in a D+23)

Below are reps. with some egregious (in my opinion) votes. Those in tougher districts like Peterson would get a pass from me, but those in safe districts should take the scrutiny.

Reps. who voted for Iraq War: Bishop, Engel, Hoyer, Kind, Lowey, Lynch, Carolyn Maloney, Pascrell, Peterson, Schiff, Sherman, Adam Smith

Reps. who voted to undermine Net Neutrality: Costa, Peters, Peterson, Sires

Reps. who voted to deregulate banks (2018): Bera, Bishop, Blunt Rochester, Carson, Correa, Costa, Cuellar, Danny Davis, Foster, Gonzalez, Gottheimer, Hastings, Himes, Kind, Kuster, Larsen, Lawson, SPMaloney, Murphy, O'Halleran, Peters, Peterson, Rice, Schneider, Schrader, David Scott, Sewell, Suozzi, Veasey, Vela


Engel is a NY rep. who's ripe for a primary challenge imo. Costa, Peters, and Correa should be at the top of the CA list.

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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2018, 12:41:37 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2018, 12:42:27 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2018, 01:23:23 PM by RussFeingoldWasRobbedk »


Is there any person in Laredo who would dare to run against Henry Cuellar? I'm deeply skeptical. Webb County is not a place conducive to people bucking the preference of those in power.
All we need is a Hispanic who is moderate on social issues(like abortion) but is economically populist. If we run someone who's like Warren we'll lose the primary badly
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2018, 01:01:42 PM »

Lipinski, Cuellar, and Lynch are all big-league FFs who should NOT be primaried.

But some D reps do deserve to be primaried - Lou Correa, for example. He's just awful.
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2018, 01:06:10 PM »

My belief is that we need our moderates in the redder districts and we need progressives in our solid blue districts to A) win as many seats as possible and B) prevent our party from moving too far to the right. Below is a list of Blue Dog and New Dem. representatives in seats that are at least D+12. Other factors come into play in these districts but this is a working list of where to start in my opinion...


I struggle to really understand your point. Sure, it may make sense strategically, but if we take your example of Mike Thompson, he may be in a D+21 district, but that doesn't mean he needs to be primaried. He's arguably a very good Representative with high seniority, and the voters choose him every time in a democratic fashion. Maybe someone could primary him, but nobody is really 'required' to, even if the voters behave in a certain way.
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2018, 01:06:50 PM »

Lipinski, Cuellar, and Lynch are all big-league FFs who should NOT be primaried.

But some D reps do deserve to be primaried - Lou Correa, for example. He's just awful.

Cuellar literally endorsed and donated to John Carter for re-election when the Blue Dog coalition, on which he he holds a leadership position, endorsed MJ Hegar. That was inexcusable, there was no reason for him to do that.
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2018, 01:08:43 PM »

Lipinski, Cuellar, and Lynch are all big-league FFs who should NOT be primaried.

But some D reps do deserve to be primaried - Lou Correa, for example. He's just awful.

Cuellar literally endorsed and donated to John Carter for re-election when the Blue Dog coalition, on which he he holds a leadership position, endorsed MJ Hegar. That was inexcusable, there was no reason for him to do that.
Thoughts regarding Lou Correa?
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2018, 01:33:42 PM »

I struggle to really understand your point. Sure, it may make sense strategically, but if we take your example of Mike Thompson, he may be in a D+21 district, but that doesn't mean he needs to be primaried. He's arguably a very good Representative with high seniority, and the voters choose him every time in a democratic fashion. Maybe someone could primary him, but nobody is really 'required' to, even if the voters behave in a certain way.

That's why I said "other factors come into play." If a representative on this list has a lucrative committee seat for example, then the voters of that district will be less likely to switch it up. Not always though. Crowley had a lot of seniority and power and look what happened to him.
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« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2018, 01:37:53 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2018, 02:51:54 PM »

Personally, everyone except Cuellar, Lipinski and Peterson ought to have a challenge, but the Reps who I want to have one:

Tim Ryan
Seth Moulton
Rashida Tlaib
Yvette Clarke
Scott Peters
Kathy Castor
Bonnie Watson Coleman
Brendan Boyle
Ilhan Omar
Chellie Pingree
Derek Kilmer
Kendra Horn

All are low quality.

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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2018, 09:37:37 PM »
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Senate:
Mark Warner - Dodd-Frank rollback, Haspel vote
Jeanne Shaheen - See: Warner, Mark. The NHGOP really doesn't have a bench besides Sununu, and even then he'll get tarred and feathered once people realize he's governed like a conservative.
Gary Peters - Dodd-Frank rollback, confirming Ajit Pai

The Big Ones:
Tim Ryan - I was against him when he started railing on about how he's open to corporate tax cuts. I'm glad to see it's fashionable now.
Seth Moulton - Blue Dog and media whore. Also have a raging personal grudge against him for trying to mess with my district.
Dan Lipinski - Need I say more?
Annie Kuster - If Carol can win 4 terms as an unapologetic progressive, then I don't see why Kuster can't either.
Tulsi Gabbard - Assadism, generally being a false prophet

Blue Dogs/Corporatists in D Districts:
Vicente Gonzalez
Filemon Vela
Darren Soto
Jim Costa
Rick Larsen
Lou Correa
Brad Schneider

Pelosi Blue Dogs:
Ed Case
Donna Shalala
Al Lawson
Rick Larsen

Anti-Pelosi:
Kathleen Rice
Kurt Schrader
Tom Suozzi (also a raging moderate hero)
Bill Foster
Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)
Linda Sanchez

Traitors (GOP supporters):
Henry Cuellar - (John Carter)
Stephen Lynch - (Charlie Baker)
David Scott - (Johnny Isakson)
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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2018, 10:21:23 PM »

Senate:


Kurt Schrader

Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)


Lol imagine primarying someone in a district trump won or was tied in 2016
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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2018, 10:23:44 PM »

They should all be primaried by someone so awful and repulsive that a Republican takes the seat, so that this great nation enjoys the benefits of a 435R House.
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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2018, 10:24:47 PM »

They should all be primaried by someone so awful and repulsive that a Republican takes the seat, so that this great nation enjoys the benefits of a 435R House.
If roy moore had a D next to his name and was nominated in NY 15th with a video of all the evidence he still wins
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« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2018, 10:26:40 PM »

Senate:


Kurt Schrader

Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)


Lol imagine primarying someone in a district trump won or was tied in 2016

My issue with Schrader is his moderate heroism/anti-Pelosi stunts. His is a bit more nebulous but is decently Democratic down-ballot. Van Drew has always voted like a Republican.

At least know what you're talking about before you start acting condescending.
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« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2018, 10:29:39 PM »

Senate:


Kurt Schrader

Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)


Lol imagine primarying someone in a district trump won or was tied in 2016

My issue with Schrader is his moderate heroism/anti-Pelosi stunts. His is a bit more nebulous but is decently Democratic down-ballot. Van Drew has always voted like a Republican.

At least know what you're talking about before you start acting condescending.
Go ahead primary van drew to lose the seat. That seat loves incumbents
Of course Schrader has to be a moderate in a even PVI seat trending r
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« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2018, 10:31:09 PM »

Just Cuellar and Schultz, godamn awful. No one else. We need to be unified and fight the GOP, not kill ourselves from infighting.
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« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2018, 10:36:31 PM »

Off the top of my head:

CA-7: Ami Bera
CA-16: Jim Costa
CA-29: Tony Cardenas
CA-47: Lou Correa
CA-52: Scott Peters
CT-4: Jim Himes
FL-5: Al Lawson
FL-20: Alcee Hastings
FL-23: Debbie Wasserman Schultz
HI-1: Ed Case
HI-2: Tulsi Gabbard
IL-10: Brad Schneider
MD-5: Steny Hoyer
MA-3: Lori Trahan
MA-6: Seth Moulton
MA-9: William Keating
NY-3: Tom Suozzi
NY-16: Eliot Engel
NY-18: Sean P Maloney
TX-28: Henry Cuellar
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