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« Reply #1025 on: September 23, 2019, 09:54:37 PM »

Anybody else think Justin Trudeau is insane? 

He didn't realize the Aladdin costume was racist?  Look at the incredible attention to detail.  He not only knew it was racist, he wore it because it was racist.  He wanted to be the center of attention.  I don't think he's just an extreme narcissist though, I've come to the conclusion that Justin Trudeau reality is being an actor in real life. 

I don't know if this is all that serious though for a Prime Minister.  From what I've read, Mackenzie King was also quite insane and he was Prime Minister for around 22 years.

I believe the technical term to describe him is "goober".

Loony tunes.
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« Reply #1026 on: September 23, 2019, 09:57:06 PM »

Anybody else think Justin Trudeau is insane?  

He didn't realize the Aladdin costume was racist?  Look at the incredible attention to detail.  He not only knew it was racist, he wore it because it was racist.  He wanted to be the center of attention.  I don't think he's just an extreme narcissist though, I've come to the conclusion that Justin Trudeau's reality is play acting through life.

Amazingly, I don't know if this is disqualifying though for a Prime Minister.  From what I've read, Mackenzie King was also quite insane and he was Prime Minister for around 22 years.

I always thought that of him, although didn't Reagan mention all politicians are actors.  Still I think Liberals made a big mistake in choosing him.  Marc Garneau probably would have not built the excitement Trudeau did, but if he was PM, would probably have a 10 point lead and be coasting to a second term.  Off course maybe Mulcair would have won instead as 2015 was more about getting rid of Harper vs. electing anyone.  If Mulcair won, I think if party stood behind him, he would be in good shape for re-election, but problem is much of the party felt he wasn't left wing enough so if he saw a drop like Trudeau, party would have knifed him in an instant and put in a more left wing leader.  Trudeau is safe as majority of Liberal MPs wouldn't be MPs if it wasn't for him.

I think the difference is Reagan took on roles to sell policy: the angry citizen, the concerned citizen, the sympathetic citizen, Trudeau seems to take policy positions to fit a role: the modern sensitive male.  From what we've read, he acts nothing like that in private.  

Of course, I don't know but I suspect he acts in private like how he thinks a Prime Minister should.

The actor Peter Sellers once said about himself something like that his personality was whatever acting job he had at the time.
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« Reply #1027 on: September 24, 2019, 12:01:55 AM »


Things are much more boring in Ottawa South.

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« Reply #1028 on: September 24, 2019, 12:45:17 AM »
« Edited: September 24, 2019, 01:16:37 AM by King of Kensington »

Latest Ekos:

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2019/09/initially-severe-impact-of-blackface-fades-suggesting-unsettled-and-volatile-electorate

Some quick observations:

1. Cons are sure piling up votes in AB/SK

2. The NDP is really in deep trouble

3. The offense to PM Blackface seems to be mostly feigned outrage from Conservative supporters of a partisan nature.

4. Visible minorities remain solidly behind the Liberals




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« Reply #1029 on: September 24, 2019, 04:32:15 AM »

Anybody else think Justin Trudeau is insane?  

He didn't realize the Aladdin costume was racist?  Look at the incredible attention to detail.  He not only knew it was racist, he wore it because it was racist.  He wanted to be the center of attention.  I don't think he's just an extreme narcissist though, I've come to the conclusion that Justin Trudeau's reality is play acting through life.

Amazingly, I don't know if this is disqualifying though for a Prime Minister.  From what I've read, Mackenzie King was also quite insane and he was Prime Minister for around 22 years.

I always thought that of him, although didn't Reagan mention all politicians are actors.  Still I think Liberals made a big mistake in choosing him.  Marc Garneau probably would have not built the excitement Trudeau did, but if he was PM, would probably have a 10 point lead and be coasting to a second term.  Off course maybe Mulcair would have won instead as 2015 was more about getting rid of Harper vs. electing anyone.  If Mulcair won, I think if party stood behind him, he would be in good shape for re-election, but problem is much of the party felt he wasn't left wing enough so if he saw a drop like Trudeau, party would have knifed him in an instant and put in a more left wing leader.  Trudeau is safe as majority of Liberal MPs wouldn't be MPs if it wasn't for him.
Only Trudeau could have won 2015 for the Liberals imo. The NDP would have replaced the Liberals without him.
LeBlanc (who would have had a very similar if not identical team around him and thus run a very similar if not identical campaign) would have also done it IMO, though perhaps a slightly smaller win.
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« Reply #1030 on: September 24, 2019, 05:48:27 AM »

And today's Nanos daily tracker has the Libs jumping from 33.1 to 35.1, the Cons falling from 34.3 to 33.5.  So much for the CPC capitalizing on a blackface backlash...
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« Reply #1031 on: September 24, 2019, 05:59:00 AM »

And today's Nanos daily tracker has the Libs jumping from 33.1 to 35.1, the Cons falling from 34.3 to 33.5.  So much for the CPC capitalizing on a blackface backlash...

"It's outrageous that SJWs can get away with racism but we cannot" was never a particularly salient argument to win an election with, no matter how true it may be.
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« Reply #1032 on: September 24, 2019, 07:27:41 AM »

And today's Nanos daily tracker has the Libs jumping from 33.1 to 35.1, the Cons falling from 34.3 to 33.5.  So much for the CPC capitalizing on a blackface backlash...

Looking back at the polls Nanos has had the highest Tory result AND was 0.2 off the lowest Tory result of any pollster so far during this campaign. What's with that Huh
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« Reply #1033 on: September 24, 2019, 10:32:09 AM »

Angus Reid:
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-blackface-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR1okxdVnYb_H_Ey1NKxpkL2vHrWXMEpU7vBbsOc5aAlsOvxuwCDSFS_oxk

CPC- 35% -1
LPC - 30% -3
NDP - 15% +2
GRN - 11% +2
BQ - 6% +1
PPC - 3% -1
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« Reply #1034 on: September 24, 2019, 10:34:05 AM »

It looks like the consequence of the Blackface scandal (assuming more pics don't come out) is that it is less of a game changer electorally, but that it neutralizes Liberal attempts to use old comments from Scheer and other Tory candidates against them
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« Reply #1035 on: September 24, 2019, 11:30:30 AM »

Wow, I just noticed how much NDP fell in Quebec.  I guess that will shift a bunch of seats to LIB even if CON and BQ gains vote share from 2015 assuming the LIB vote from 2015 holds up.  CON will have their work cut out for them to try to overtake LIB overall.
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« Reply #1036 on: September 24, 2019, 02:00:51 PM »

So... is voting for People's Party just a wasted vote?
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« Reply #1037 on: September 24, 2019, 02:24:40 PM »

So... is voting for People's Party just a wasted vote?

If you want someone not named Trudeau as PM, then yes...
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« Reply #1038 on: September 24, 2019, 02:39:47 PM »

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« Reply #1039 on: September 24, 2019, 05:09:11 PM »


And Ipsos/Global is showing 36-32-15-11-4-2.  So, some pollsters are still showing CPC reaping the rewards...
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« Reply #1040 on: September 24, 2019, 05:40:50 PM »

So... is voting for People's Party just a wasted vote?
Unless you live in Beauce, yes
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« Reply #1041 on: September 24, 2019, 07:04:33 PM »

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« Reply #1042 on: September 25, 2019, 05:42:42 AM »

And now, the Cons have bounced back according to Nanos--from 33.5 to 35.4 (but the Libs also up, from 35.1 to 35.3).

That the big loser is Green (from 10.1 to 8.Cool suggest sampling happenstances rearing their head.
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« Reply #1043 on: September 25, 2019, 10:19:17 AM »

So... is voting for People's Party just a wasted vote?

Considering how rare it is for a riding to be tied or decided by one vote, the no, it's not. Vote your conscience. Now if your conscience is telling you to vote for the PPC, that's a different story.
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« Reply #1044 on: September 25, 2019, 01:25:47 PM »

Translation: Support for Israel isn't going to be much of a "wedge issue" in the Canadian Jewish community this year

https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/the-jewish-canadian-election-battleground
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« Reply #1045 on: September 25, 2019, 08:38:30 PM »

Mainstreet has the NDP in third in Stratchona and the Conservatives retaking Edmonton-Mill Woods.  Will there be any non-Conservative seats in AB/SK after this election?
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« Reply #1046 on: September 25, 2019, 09:02:49 PM »

Mainstreet has the NDP in third in Stratchona and the Conservatives retaking Edmonton-Mill Woods.  Will there be any non-Conservative seats in AB/SK after this election?

Ralph Goodale should be safe in Regina-Wascana
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« Reply #1047 on: September 25, 2019, 09:30:00 PM »

Beginning to wonder if that's true.
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« Reply #1048 on: September 26, 2019, 06:25:11 AM »

When we're dealing with certain polls that show CPC with the only *double digit* share in Sask, then it's like being non-NDP provincially in Edmonton in 2015, or non-Lib federally in the Maritimes in 2015.

Oh, and today's Nanos shows Lib bouncing back into the lead--and the NDP sorta-correcting itself after a week or so in the Nanos doldrums (12.7 to 14.5; the same that the Cons dropped by).  The Greens also corrected themselves after a one-day down blip, at the expense of the Bloc, so to speak (who are back below 5% after several days of blackface-boosted overachievement)
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« Reply #1049 on: September 26, 2019, 06:49:56 AM »

Speaking of today's Nanos it has the Greens (!) second in Atlantic Canada (granted, a very distant second, but still).
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