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« Reply #250 on: October 27, 2018, 05:46:34 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.



No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.

The Koch brothers have at least 2 major private schools under control, countless thinktanks including Libertarian CATO, more money sloshed to extreme Republican candidates, and political connections with the Republican leadership.

George Soros has spread his funding around with less globally, first against communist rule and now fascist rule in his native Hungary, and to be honest just finds moderate pro-business Democratic members. No one is bought by him and the only reason why people care is that he fits the fascist definition of a Jew.
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« Reply #251 on: October 27, 2018, 05:48:37 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

Minimal compared to Republican members, with the only one coming to mind is the banned Cora. How interesting you glossed over the very first portion of my post? Also yes, you honestly put very little individual thought compared to what is stated by the twitter feeds I’m getting.
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« Reply #252 on: October 27, 2018, 05:49:44 PM »

People coming into a thread about a Bannonite Nazi shooting up a synagogue to scold people on the left for anti-semites in their caucus is Peak 2018.

Evading the point of what I said again. And given that the shooter hated Trump for being "controlled by the Jews", it makes my point go even further. I am not a Trump supporter, as I've made clear many times, but I've grown distressed by the blatant bias and partisanship displayed by so many on here, day in and day out.

No, but you act like the majority of Germans that weren’t members of the Nazi party that defended his actions whenever there is controversy
 
A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I was going to ignore her prior posts, but I have to respond to this by saying "Hear hear!"
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« Reply #253 on: October 27, 2018, 05:51:33 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

You and your both sides do it which is why I am so offended the Democrats style of pearl clutching really could use a giant glass of STFU juice right now.

Seriously, kindly go away for a couple days from this thread until you have something remotely positive to contribute.
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« Reply #254 on: October 27, 2018, 05:54:35 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

You and your both sides do it which is why I am so offended the Democrats style of pearl clutching really could use a giant glass of STFU juice right now.

Seriously, kindly go away for a couple days from this thread until you have something remotely positive to contribute.

99% sure this is that concern troll sockmaker Svensson guy from yesteryear. He knows what he's doing.
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« Reply #255 on: October 27, 2018, 05:55:23 PM »

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« Reply #256 on: October 27, 2018, 05:57:29 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.



No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.


Of course they are all just donors and the only difference is who they donate to, but that isn't that point. You don't need to layer in criticism of someone when you are condemning them being sent a bomb. It just looks as if you are adding a "but" to justify said person being threatened.
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« Reply #257 on: October 27, 2018, 05:59:55 PM »

Usually I am not too short on words when it comes to stories like this but seriously, I'm at a loss. This week has truly filled me with despair. It might actually be one of the worst weeks of the Trump era, and that's saying a lot. I usually always say about Trump that: "the fact that I hate Trump so much, while having little to lose from his actual policies, is a real testament to how hated he should be by the people that are actually being negatively affected by him being President." Perhaps I stand corrected, because as a Jew and as a liberal Democrat, apparently hunting season is on for us. Between this tragedy in Pittsburgh and the mail bombs, it's clear that there are some in this country who have become much more brazen in their extremism since the Enabler-in-Chief took office and who will not be satisfied unless the people they hate or disagree with are silenced or dead. It's truly upsetting.

But what sucks is that this week can still get worse, because Bolsonaro is poised to become President of Brazil tomorrow. I guess that means that it isn't just our nation that's beyond repair, but the world and humanity as a whole.
oh man i forgot that nutjob is about to take power. jeez this is a rough week
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« Reply #258 on: October 27, 2018, 06:03:02 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

Minimal compared to Republican members, with the only one coming to mind is the banned Cora. How interesting you glossed over the very first portion of my post? Also yes, you honestly put very little individual thought compared to what is stated by the twitter feeds I’m getting.

People coming into a thread about a Bannonite Nazi shooting up a synagogue to scold people on the left for anti-semites in their caucus is Peak 2018.

Evading the point of what I said again. And given that the shooter hated Trump for being "controlled by the Jews", it makes my point go even further. I am not a Trump supporter, as I've made clear many times, but I've grown distressed by the blatant bias and partisanship displayed by so many on here, day in and day out.

No, but you act like the majority of Germans that weren’t members of the Nazi party that defended his actions whenever there is controversy
 
A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I was going to ignore her prior posts, but I have to respond to this by saying "Hear hear!"


These posts all serve merely as further validation of my points. I have routinely emphasized that anti-semitism is present on both ends of the political spectrum, but that point continues to be ignored. The drive, instead, seems to be to further the narrative of "This is all the right's fault, and we share no blame or culpability for the issues of violence and threats which have descended upon this country." Seeking to escape responsibility isn't the best recourse of action. And people on here seem to derive joy from shouting down at those who don't toe the line that seems to prevail.
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« Reply #259 on: October 27, 2018, 06:04:47 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

You and your both sides do it which is why I am so offended the Democrats style of pearl clutching really could use a giant glass of STFU juice right now.

Seriously, kindly go away for a couple days from this thread until you have something remotely positive to contribute.

99% sure this is that concern troll sockmaker Svensson guy from yesteryear. He knows what he's doing.

You are sorely mistaken. Just because I have an opposing viewpoint from the majority of people means that I am a troll? That is a low blow.

And shame on you, Badger, for your continued display of rudeness and partisanship. Such a display is completely uncalled for. But you have shown it towards many other people on this forum, time and time again.
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« Reply #260 on: October 27, 2018, 06:08:18 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.



No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.


Of course they are all just donors and the only difference is who they donate to, but that isn't that point. You don't need to layer in criticism of someone when you are condemning them being sent a bomb. It just looks as if you are adding a "but" to justify said person being threatened.

Not an effort to justify threats towards anyone. An effort to point out the double standard which has reared itself here again.
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« Reply #261 on: October 27, 2018, 06:13:57 PM »

Louise Farrakhan endorsed Trump and the rest have no connections with voters nor leadership. Meanwhile fascism has literally been found from the top down in the Republican Party. Again, stop pretending to be politically deaf. I don’t even give this level of care to the admitted racists, of whom the last stand is all Republican, over here. In fact, mods, are we sure this poster has a unique IP and isn’t a sock from banned posters or Russia/China.

Also I made my point against the Koch bros. above.
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« Reply #262 on: October 27, 2018, 06:15:32 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.



No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.

The difference is right there, in the next sentence: ... but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion.
Open your eyes. You are intentionally being obtuse to the facts of what he is telling you.
Take-off the GOP horse-blinders.
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« Reply #263 on: October 27, 2018, 06:16:30 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sardour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.

Yep, fair enough. And just because people (like myself) hate George Soros and his ideas, doesn't make those people anti-Semites necessarily.

I agree. I don't think George Soros is as important as many on the right side of the spectrum think he is, but I also don't condone those who try to blur the line between political opposition and outright extremism. It is possible to oppose people for the ideas they support, without any regard whatsoever for their religion, race, or other characteristics. Soros has the right to donate to whichever causes he wishes, but that doesn't mean that he should be lauded.



No one said he had to be lauded. Plenty of Democrats don't like the Koch Brothers but there have been no instances of them being sent bombs or even attacked them over their ethnicity or religion. Just because people think Soros shouldn't have been sent a bomb doesn't mean they are demanding that he be lauded.

But what really makes Soros different from the Koch Brothers? They are all billionaires donating to political causes. But because of their party affiliation, the responses to them are different. If it had been the Koch Brothers, I'm not so sure this forum's reaction would have been the same. Many people on here seem to operate by a double standard, not treating everything in a more equitable manner.


George Soros experienced firsthand the appalling consequences of right-wing hatred (and yes, Nazis were right-wing. No, the "National Socialist Party" name does not make them socialist or left-wing). George Soros doesn't have anything to gain, personally or financially, from supporting Democratic candidates.

The Koch Brothers want nothing but more money. They want politicians who will let their factories pollute more because that reduces their costs and increases their profits. They want politicians who will cut their taxes because, again, more money. They inherited a multimillion dollar company and have never experienced discrimination or adversity in their lives, but it still isn't enough for them.
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« Reply #264 on: October 27, 2018, 06:17:38 PM »

Very impressive work by Catherine to make the killing of 11 jews all about herself
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« Reply #265 on: October 27, 2018, 06:18:20 PM »

Louise Farrakhan endorsed Trump and the rest have no connections with voters nor leadership. Meanwhile fascism has literally been found from the top down in the Republican Party. Again, stop pretending to be politically deaf. I don’t even give this level of care to the admitted racists, of whom the last stand is all Republican, over here. In fact, mods, are we sure this poster has a unique IP and isn’t a sock from banned posters or Russia/China.

Also I made my point against the Koch bros. above.

You think that I am a Russian or Chinese bot? Or a sock? And are calling for an IP check on me? That is it. You are now the latest addition to my already lengthy ignore list. Any further conversation with you is not worth it and will derail this thread further.
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« Reply #266 on: October 27, 2018, 06:18:47 PM »

Very impressive work by Catherine to make the killing of 11 jews all about herself

Confusing me for a woman, as I've made clear many times that I am not. No matter. You too, are now on my ignore list.
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« Reply #267 on: October 27, 2018, 06:20:25 PM »

Louise Farrakhan endorsed Trump and the rest have no connections with voters nor leadership. Meanwhile fascism has literally been found from the top down in the Republican Party. Again, stop pretending to be politically deaf. I don’t even give this level of care to the admitted racists, of whom the last stand is all Republican, over here. In fact, mods, are we sure this poster has a unique IP and isn’t a sock from banned posters or Russia/China.

Also I made my point against the Koch bros. above.

You think that I am a Russian or Chinese bot? Or a sock? And are calling for an IP check on me? That is it. You are now the latest addition to my already lengthy ignore list. Any further conversation with you is not worth it and will derail this thread further.
I’ll wear it like a badge of honor. Either way I think the next employee will forget about it on the night shift.

Oh yeah hear hear for Weenie’s statement.
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« Reply #268 on: October 27, 2018, 06:26:53 PM »



You mean the same report that indicates they had the highest percentage increase in 2017 but they've had in over 20 years? That report?

Yes, the same report that showed a 47% decrease in the number of physical attacks over 2016. It looks like 2016 may have been a decrease from 2015.

Harassment was up, though there can be some explanations that have nothing to with politics or antisemitism (and it is a strange story). 

Vandalism was where there was a increase, but that might be due to better reporting.


JJ, you are amazing. But early and completely amazing. And by amazing I totally don't mean obstinate to the point of foolishness.
I am so not going to put you on ignore. Your dithering about like an internet mr. Magoo is simply hilarious

You should read the report.  I suspect that you won't read anything.
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« Reply #269 on: October 27, 2018, 06:27:52 PM »



You mean the same report that indicates they had the highest percentage increase in 2017 but they've had in over 20 years? That report?

Yes, the same report that showed a 47% decrease in the number of physical attacks over 2016. It looks like 2016 may have been a decrease from 2015.

Harassment was up, though there can be some explanations that have nothing to with politics or antisemitism (and it is a strange story). 

Vandalism was where there was a increase, but that might be due to better reporting.


JJ, you are amazing. But early and completely amazing. And by amazing I totally don't mean obstinate to the point of foolishness.
I am so not going to put you on ignore. Your dithering about like an internet mr. Magoo is simply hilarious

You should read the report.  I suspect that you won't read anything.

This is exactly what I've been fighting against. People should be more open and more capable of engaging in intellectual conversation, without resorting to nasty mudslinging.
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« Reply #270 on: October 27, 2018, 06:29:16 PM »

Louise Farrakhan endorsed Trump and the rest have no connections with voters nor leadership. Meanwhile fascism has literally been found from the top down in the Republican Party. Again, stop pretending to be politically deaf. I don’t even give this level of care to the admitted racists, of whom the last stand is all Republican, over here. In fact, mods, are we sure this poster has a unique IP and isn’t a sock from banned posters or Russia/China.

Also I made my point against the Koch bros. above.

You think that I am a Russian or Chinese bot? Or a sock? And are calling for an IP check on me? That is it. You are now the latest addition to my already lengthy ignore list. Any further conversation with you is not worth it and will derail this thread further.




Very impressive work by Catherine to make the killing of 11 jews all about herself

Confusing me for a woman, as I've made clear many times that I am not. No matter. You too, are now on my ignore list.

LMAO.
Calthrina must be one of the most pathetic, thin-skinned Atlas users ever on this site.
I also like how she/he constantly threatens the "ignore list" button on others, like it's some high-and-mighty power that will destroy you. Oh, please.
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« Reply #271 on: October 27, 2018, 06:38:21 PM »

A Trump-hating actual Nazi shoots up a synagogue, what a world.

I would add further to this by saying that antisemitism is by no means confined to the right side of the political spectrum. There are people on the left (i.e. Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour, Illhan Omar, etc.) who have said very nasty things about Jews. Farrakhan and Sarsour are the worst offenders. This is to say nothing of Palestinian apologists in general. Thus, people on here pretending that this is only a problem of "right-wing terrorism" are sorely mistaken.
Absolutely none of the people mentioned are relevant to the Democratic party supporter base nor leadership. Heck, Louise Farrakhan isn’t even a leftist, he endorsed Donald Trump so that America can be an ethnostate. Not to mention the last two criticized Israel, not the Jewish people.

Instead, several Republican congressman trued to meet with the Czech Nazi party, along with Donald Trump having among him Steve Bannon and Stephan Gorka. Donald Trump has also repeatedly threatened violence and detainment against Central Americans, a straw for the recent shooter. I honestly am tired of your charade being deaf to the whistles. It is ruining the forum quality by you spouting platitudes and mantras paralleling the Nuremberg defendants.

I am the one spouting platitudes? I am the one engaged in a charade? Most of the posters on this forum routinely engage in behaviors which are objectionable, and which should be called out. From denigrating their opponents, to throwing out profanity and inappropriate references frequently, to laughing at others, to attacking others. What I have said and done does not match the level of cruelty which many on here have displayed themselves capable of.

And discounting the fact that there are people on the left side of the spectrum who have displayed anti-semitic sentiments proves again the double standard that is adhered to here. I say that if the shoe were on the other foot, people here would be singing a different tune.

You and your both sides do it which is why I am so offended the Democrats style of pearl clutching really could use a giant glass of STFU juice right now.

Seriously, kindly go away for a couple days from this thread until you have something remotely positive to contribute.

99% sure this is that concern troll sockmaker Svensson guy from yesteryear. He knows what he's doing.

You are sorely mistaken. Just because I have an opposing viewpoint from the majority of people means that I am a troll? That is a low blow.

And shame on you, Badger, for your continued display of rudeness and partisanship. Such a display is completely uncalled for. But you have shown it towards many other people on this forum, time and time again.

Your pearl clutching impresses no one.

A sock would be car more believable than anyone actually this silly.
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« Reply #272 on: October 27, 2018, 06:40:27 PM »

Mods I wasn’t kidding when I asked if this was a sock or troll from a banned user/geopolitical adversary. I seriously want an official statement.
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« Reply #273 on: October 27, 2018, 06:42:24 PM »

Mods I wasn’t kidding when I asked if this was a sock or troll from a banned user/geopolitical adversary. I seriously want an official statement.

Why svensson?
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« Reply #274 on: October 27, 2018, 06:42:40 PM »


The above needs to be re-emphasized.
This clearly shows, that trump has at least partial blame for the death of the 11+ people today.

The killer was posting and making claim that Jews were helping transport members of the migrant caravans in Latin America.
He said he believed those in the migrant caravans were violent because they were attempting to leave countries that had high levels of violence. The killer repeatedly called them "invaders."
All of this hate and bigotry resembles trump's politicized words at his various recent rallies. PERIOD.
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