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« on: October 24, 2018, 11:52:33 AM »

Rosen 72
Heller 24

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/rosen-up-by-nearly-50-points-among-likely-latino-voters-in-campaign-survey-conducted-by-latino-polling-firm

Since all those other single demographic polls were posted here, I figured I'd add this one. Smiley

But Reuters/Ipsos told me that Heller was winning Latinos!
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2018, 11:54:22 AM »
« Edited: October 24, 2018, 11:58:43 AM by Zaybay »

Im shocked, shocked I tell you! This is outrageous! I cannot believe it!
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2018, 11:57:08 AM »

Proves the Ipsos poll that had Heller leading with Hispanics was complete junk.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2018, 12:01:19 PM »

But... but... UTDH is up by 7 and Nevada polls are always spot on!
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2018, 12:02:08 PM »

Proves the Ipsos poll that had Heller leading with Hispanics was complete junk.

I mean, common sense would prove that. Plus basic knowledge of Nevada electoral politics. Latinos were a Clinton +31 demographic, the idea that they'd vote for Heller is nearly as absurd as a poll showing whites in Mississippi voting for Mike Espy.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 12:03:32 PM »

Junk poll. Atlas told me Latinos will be sitting out this election and that polling proves that UTDH is unbeatable.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2018, 12:47:20 PM »

Catherine Cortez Masto led by 39 among Latino voters around this time in 2016. Good news for Rosen.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2018, 12:48:58 PM »

...but English-only online poll said otherwise
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2018, 12:49:21 PM »

Catherine Cortez Masto led by 39 among Latino voters around this time in 2016. Good news for Rosen.

Yeah but Joe Heck led in junk polls around this time in 2016 too. Clearly that was enough to stop CCM Purple heart's inauguration.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2018, 12:59:36 PM »

Not to concern troll here, but they did miss the 2016 election. Latino decisions had Hillary beating Obama's 2012 Hispanic numbers, and Trump in the mid 20's. Trump shockingly beat Romney's performance with Latinos.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2018, 01:02:08 PM »

This is basically a Democratic internal.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2018, 01:27:52 PM »

Not to concern troll here, but they did miss the 2016 election. Latino decisions had Hillary beating Obama's 2012 Hispanic numbers, and Trump in the mid 20's. Trump shockingly beat Romney's performance with Latinos.

True, but it's a lot more believable than a poll showing Heller winning Latinos, which tons of people here are circlejerking over.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2018, 02:10:16 PM »

This is basically a Democratic internal.

Huh
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2018, 02:12:18 PM »

Latino Decisions is incredibly biased and has an agenda.  When it became clear that some latinos swung towards Trump in 2016 they freaked out and denounced all the exit polls.  They are hardly a good source unfortunately.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2018, 02:17:04 PM »

Latino Decisions is incredibly biased and has an agenda.  When it became clear that some latinos swung towards Trump in 2016 they freaked out and denounced all the exit polls.  They are hardly a good source unfortunately.

To be fair, the exit polls were off on a lot of things like white college educated voters.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2018, 02:25:52 PM »

Polling Brown People = Democratic internal
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2018, 02:29:57 PM »

Not to concern troll here, but they did miss the 2016 election. Latino decisions had Hillary beating Obama's 2012 Hispanic numbers, and Trump in the mid 20's. Trump shockingly beat Romney's performance with Latinos.

Isn't that going by the exit polls, which are now widely recognized to be considerably off with at least WWC/educated whites?

I'm not sure if those were accurate wrt Hispanic voters or not, nor am I sure of LD's data, but personally I am past treating exit polls as sacrosanct. I'll happily refer to them in discussions about demographics/election data, but not as a final say on the matter.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2018, 02:39:55 PM »

Latino Decisions was probably pretty close to the mark in states like Nevada in 2016. It's Florida where they massively overestimated the Democratic share of the Latino vote.

But please, tell me how it's more believable that UTDH is up by 3 among Latinos. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2018, 06:19:24 PM »

Not to concern troll here, but they did miss the 2016 election. Latino decisions had Hillary beating Obama's 2012 Hispanic numbers, and Trump in the mid 20's. Trump shockingly beat Romney's performance with Latinos.

Isn't that going by the exit polls, which are now widely recognized to be considerably off with at least WWC/educated whites?

I'm not sure if those were accurate wrt Hispanic voters or not, nor am I sure of LD's data, but personally I am past treating exit polls as sacrosanct. I'll happily refer to them in discussions about demographics/election data, but not as a final say on the matter.

No it’s not just the exit polls.

Center for American progress did a comprehensive post election survey (adjusting for the flaws in the exit polls that you mentioned) and found that Trump essentially matched Romney’s performance with Hispanics.

More likely than not, Latino Decisions screwed up the national numbers for Hispanic voters.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2018, 06:28:13 PM »

This state along with AZ will split between Gov and Senate
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2018, 10:07:30 AM »

It's very hard to believe she's up that much.
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2018, 05:25:39 PM »

It's very hard to believe she's up that much.

Not really considering that exit polls in 2012 showed Obama winning Nevada Latinos 71-24.
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