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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2018, 01:20:54 PM »

It is disgusting. Hopefully they don't get much news coverage. As the link says, it's a tiny group and they, in no way, deserve to have their pathetic rally be national news.

Why not?
There is no difference between this "pathetic rally" and trump's pathetic rallies (and those get national news coverage).
They both portray the same message. One crazy white guy in-charge of their meeting, screams-out to a group of other nutty, cultist white people who cheer-on any and all wacky and bigoted directives.

Even for someone as hopelessly obsessed and single-minded as you, this is clearly false.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2018, 01:21:50 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2018, 01:23:14 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2018, 01:23:34 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2018, 01:27:13 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

Very fine person in the house.
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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2018, 01:29:51 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

Very fine person in the house.

You're right, actually. They aren't equally bad. The counter-protesters are probably going to be worse.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2018, 01:48:38 PM »

It is disgusting. Hopefully they don't get much news coverage. As the link says, it's a tiny group and they, in no way, deserve to have their pathetic rally be national news.

Why not?
There is no difference between this "pathetic rally" and trump's pathetic rallies (and those get national news coverage).
They both portray the same message. One crazy white guy in-charge of their meeting, screams-out to a group of other nutty, cultist white people who cheer-on any and all wacky and bigoted directives.

Even for someone as hopelessly obsessed and single-minded as you, this is clearly false.

Sorry that the truth hurt your little feelings.
We will order a box of tissues to arrive at your house; watch for the UPS truck.
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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2018, 03:07:59 PM »

It is disgusting. Hopefully they don't get much news coverage. As the link says, it's a tiny group and they, in no way, deserve to have their pathetic rally be national news.

Why not?
There is no difference between this "pathetic rally" and trump's pathetic rallies (and those get national news coverage).
They both portray the same message. One crazy white guy in-charge of their meeting, screams-out to a group of other nutty, cultist white people who cheer-on any and all wacky and bigoted directives.

Even for someone as hopelessly obsessed and single-minded as you, this is clearly false.

Sorry that the truth hurt your little feelings.
We will order a box of tissues to arrive at your house; watch for the UPS truck.

LMAO, don't you get bored?
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2018, 03:09:04 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

Very fine person in the house.

You're right, actually. They aren't equally bad. The counter-protesters are probably going to be worse.

A neo-Nazi doesn't bother you more than someone protesting neo-Nazi views?
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2018, 05:48:16 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2018, 08:57:18 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.

In all seriousness, these folks, however heinous, have the right to peaceably assemble, protest, share their views, and not be physically threatened when they are assembling lawfully.  Neo-Nazis, Alt-Righters, Skinheads, and other people that I would regard as some form of Pond Scum nonetheless have the same rights (no more, no less) under the First Amendment than Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Warren, or ProudModerate2.  The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS; folks who are there only to disrupt their rally.  And it's not like they can't have a rally of their own somewhere else; they're there to START CRAP. after which anything can happen.

Yes, Heather Heyer was a tragedy.  Yes, the people responsible for her death should face the proper criminal penalties.  But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"?  Yes, the Antifa folks have their martyr for their PR; Heather Heyer is dead and they can claim they were right.  Is that right?  Did they really have to do that? 

The COUNTERPROTESTERS are scumbags.  All of them.  Their cause MAY have more merit than that of Neo-Nazis and the like, but their PRESENCE at the lawful gatherings of admittedly despicable people is what guarantees the violence, because THEY are there solely to provoke.  The only mitigating factor to that is that the protestors with the permit really hope to be provoked; I don't want anyone to think I'm giving either side props here.

If you want to make America better, respect the rights of others' free speech and their freedom to assemble.  If you don't agree with them, let them be.  If someone is propulgating garbage, organize teach-ins.  Take to the internet.  If you're the media, REPORT the news; don't try to manufacture it.  I don't think that's real unreasonable, but there are lots of people who are only for free speech when they're the ones running their mouth.
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2018, 09:01:37 PM »

Do Neo-Nazis like Asians and Native Americans like the original Nazis did?
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2018, 09:43:10 PM »

But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"? 

To make clear how repugnant their views are?  Still, I agree that violent disruption isn't the way. Rather, another response to Charlottesville is: to make certain that those who come can't hide behind anonymity and that holds true for both sides here.
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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2018, 09:47:55 PM »

But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"? 

To make clear how repugnant their views are?  Still, I agree that violent disruption isn't the way. Rather, another response to Charlottesville is: to make certain that those who come can't hide behind anonymity and that holds true for both sides here.

The answer to that question is'"No!".

Emphatically, "No!".

Counterprotesting at a lawful rally isn't the way to do that. 
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2018, 10:03:15 PM »

It is disgusting. Hopefully they don't get much news coverage. As the link says, it's a tiny group and they, in no way, deserve to have their pathetic rally be national news.

Why not?
There is no difference between this "pathetic rally" and trump's pathetic rallies (and those get national news coverage).
They both portray the same message. One crazy white guy in-charge of their meeting, screams-out to a group of other nutty, cultist white people who cheer-on any and all wacky and bigoted directives.

First of all, that's a ridiculous comparison, and you know it. Trump focuses on slamming Democrats, touting the economy, praising his own administration, and stumping for other Republicans during his rallies. That's not comparable to a rally where the main ideas are Jews not replacing "us", whites needing their own ethno-state, and the Nazis being unsung heroes. The fact that you can't see any distinction shows the extent to which you're not seriously analyzing reality.

Secondly, even if your premise was true, which it isn't, your argument is that we should have MORE white-nationalist exposure in the country and that we should build them up be anything more than the sad, pathetic group they currently are?

Oh, of course.
My sincere apologies. The Orange Tangerine doesn't attack Jews at rallies, he just goes after disabled people and always keeps it professional ...
(Now who is the one not "analyzing reality?")



Ridiculous comparisions are what PM2 does best.

And using Jesus and citing Scripture to spread hatred and bigotry is what Fuzzy does best.

I'm sorry, but when I look at that Trump video, I just imagine how worked up you get before posting things like, "DISGUSTING!".  Yes, Trump was out of bounds when he did this video, but when I think of the body of your work on Atlas, I think that this video can, after all, be put to good use!

It's kind of like going through the dumpster to find stuff to make something cool to sell in Flea Market Flip

Awww, c'mon, that was funny!    Mock

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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2018, 10:03:58 PM »

Do Neo-Nazis like Asians and Native Americans like the original Nazis did?

Yes, that's why they masturbate to anime.
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2018, 10:04:04 PM »

Could you find a better source than the ADL?

What better source is there for tracking Neo-Nazi activity in America.

Oh wait. Let me guess. Something something Zionism something something.
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2018, 10:05:11 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

Very fine person in the house.

You're right, actually. They aren't equally bad. The counter-protesters are probably going to be worse.

Jesus tap-dancing Christ....
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2018, 10:06:58 PM »

Do Neo-Nazis like Asians and Native Americans like the original Nazis did?

Yes, that's why they masturbate to anime.

Okay. Now THAT was funny.

Pay attention fuzzy bear. Wink
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 10:09:25 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.

In all seriousness, these folks, however heinous, have the right to peaceably assemble, protest, share their views, and not be physically threatened when they are assembling lawfully.  Neo-Nazis, Alt-Righters, Skinheads, and other people that I would regard as some form of Pond Scum nonetheless have the same rights (no more, no less) under the First Amendment than Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Warren, or ProudModerate2.  The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS; folks who are there only to disrupt their rally.  And it's not like they can't have a rally of their own somewhere else; they're there to START CRAP. after which anything can happen.

Yes, Heather Heyer was a tragedy.  Yes, the people responsible for her death should face the proper criminal penalties.  But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"?  Yes, the Antifa folks have their martyr for their PR; Heather Heyer is dead and they can claim they were right.  Is that right?  Did they really have to do that? 

The COUNTERPROTESTERS are scumbags.  All of them.  Their cause MAY have more merit than that of Neo-Nazis and the like, but their PRESENCE at the lawful gatherings of admittedly despicable people is what guarantees the violence, because THEY are there solely to provoke.  The only mitigating factor to that is that the protestors with the permit really hope to be provoked; I don't want anyone to think I'm giving either side props here.

If you want to make America better, respect the rights of others' free speech and their freedom to assemble.  If you don't agree with them, let them be.  If someone is propulgating garbage, organize teach-ins.  Take to the internet.  If you're the media, REPORT the news; don't try to manufacture it.  I don't think that's real unreasonable, but there are lots of people who are only for free speech when they're the ones running their mouth.

Memo to fuzzy bear.

The counter protesters in Charlotte included numerous organized Christian congregations, both black and white, many of which were led by pastors. Just curious if you include them among scumbags because two or three college kids in the crowd calling themselves antifa threw urine filled water balloons at neo-nazis. Please advise.
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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2018, 10:42:06 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.

In all seriousness, these folks, however heinous, have the right to peaceably assemble, protest, share their views, and not be physically threatened when they are assembling lawfully.  Neo-Nazis, Alt-Righters, Skinheads, and other people that I would regard as some form of Pond Scum nonetheless have the same rights (no more, no less) under the First Amendment than Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Warren, or ProudModerate2.  The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS; folks who are there only to disrupt their rally.  And it's not like they can't have a rally of their own somewhere else; they're there to START CRAP. after which anything can happen.

Yes, Heather Heyer was a tragedy.  Yes, the people responsible for her death should face the proper criminal penalties.  But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"?  Yes, the Antifa folks have their martyr for their PR; Heather Heyer is dead and they can claim they were right.  Is that right?  Did they really have to do that? 

The COUNTERPROTESTERS are scumbags.  All of them.  Their cause MAY have more merit than that of Neo-Nazis and the like, but their PRESENCE at the lawful gatherings of admittedly despicable people is what guarantees the violence, because THEY are there solely to provoke.  The only mitigating factor to that is that the protestors with the permit really hope to be provoked; I don't want anyone to think I'm giving either side props here.

If you want to make America better, respect the rights of others' free speech and their freedom to assemble.  If you don't agree with them, let them be.  If someone is propulgating garbage, organize teach-ins.  Take to the internet.  If you're the media, REPORT the news; don't try to manufacture it.  I don't think that's real unreasonable, but there are lots of people who are only for free speech when they're the ones running their mouth.

Memo to fuzzy bear.

The counter protesters in Charlotte included numerous organized Christian congregations, both black and white, many of which were led by pastors. Just curious if you include them among scumbags because two or three college kids in the crowd calling themselves antifa threw urine filled water balloons at neo-nazis. Please advise.

More wishy-washy responses by Fuzzy. What a surprise.
All those words in his post, and they equal crap-o-la. Does the guy ever take a straight position on any issue?
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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2018, 11:37:08 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

These people should stop being wastes of life and stop having rallies.

That goes for both sides.

Very fine person in the house.

You're right, actually. They aren't equally bad. The counter-protesters are probably going to be worse.

A neo-Nazi doesn't bother you more than someone protesting neo-Nazi views?

He's a Republican, what do you expect? Last time I checked the incumbent Republican president that 90% of Republicans approve of and will vote for again thinks the same thing.
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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2018, 11:38:48 PM »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.

In all seriousness, these folks, however heinous, have the right to peaceably assemble, protest, share their views, and not be physically threatened when they are assembling lawfully.  Neo-Nazis, Alt-Righters, Skinheads, and other people that I would regard as some form of Pond Scum nonetheless have the same rights (no more, no less) under the First Amendment than Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Warren, or ProudModerate2.  The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS; folks who are there only to disrupt their rally.  And it's not like they can't have a rally of their own somewhere else; they're there to START CRAP. after which anything can happen.

Yes, Heather Heyer was a tragedy.  Yes, the people responsible for her death should face the proper criminal penalties.  But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"?  Yes, the Antifa folks have their martyr for their PR; Heather Heyer is dead and they can claim they were right.  Is that right?  Did they really have to do that? 

The COUNTERPROTESTERS are scumbags.  All of them.  Their cause MAY have more merit than that of Neo-Nazis and the like, but their PRESENCE at the lawful gatherings of admittedly despicable people is what guarantees the violence, because THEY are there solely to provoke.  The only mitigating factor to that is that the protestors with the permit really hope to be provoked; I don't want anyone to think I'm giving either side props here.

If you want to make America better, respect the rights of others' free speech and their freedom to assemble.  If you don't agree with them, let them be.  If someone is propulgating garbage, organize teach-ins.  Take to the internet.  If you're the media, REPORT the news; don't try to manufacture it.  I don't think that's real unreasonable, but there are lots of people who are only for free speech when they're the ones running their mouth.

Memo to fuzzy bear.

The counter protesters in Charlotte included numerous organized Christian congregations, both black and white, many of which were led by pastors. Just curious if you include them among scumbags because two or three college kids in the crowd calling themselves antifa threw urine filled water balloons at neo-nazis. Please advise.

More wishy-washy responses by Fuzzy. What a surprise.
All those words in his post, and they equal crap-o-la. Does the guy ever take a straight position on any issue?

He has. He has clearly stated that Nazis are to be treated as respected members of society.
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2018, 11:51:21 PM »

If Nazis and neo-Confederates were protesting in my hometown, I would go counter-protest to remind the rest of America that #NotAllSoutherners are like that.
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« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2018, 12:07:20 AM »
« Edited: October 13, 2018, 12:11:13 AM by ProudModerate2 »

Who cares?
These people should stop announcing their gatherings to the general public so that they aren't harassed by hordes of lefties.

Oh of course.
Let's make sure these very "fine people" "aren't harassed." God forbid.

In all seriousness, these folks, however heinous, have the right to peaceably assemble, protest, share their views, and not be physically threatened when they are assembling lawfully.  Neo-Nazis, Alt-Righters, Skinheads, and other people that I would regard as some form of Pond Scum nonetheless have the same rights (no more, no less) under the First Amendment than Mother Teresa, Elizabeth Warren, or ProudModerate2.  The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS; folks who are there only to disrupt their rally.  And it's not like they can't have a rally of their own somewhere else; they're there to START CRAP. after which anything can happen.

Yes, Heather Heyer was a tragedy.  Yes, the people responsible for her death should face the proper criminal penalties.  But why in anyone's right mind would someone plan to disrupt a lawful rally of a group that, admittedly, are HPs, except to "start crap"?  Yes, the Antifa folks have their martyr for their PR; Heather Heyer is dead and they can claim they were right.  Is that right?  Did they really have to do that?  

The COUNTERPROTESTERS are scumbags.  All of them.  Their cause MAY have more merit than that of Neo-Nazis and the like, but their PRESENCE at the lawful gatherings of admittedly despicable people is what guarantees the violence, because THEY are there solely to provoke.  The only mitigating factor to that is that the protestors with the permit really hope to be provoked; I don't want anyone to think I'm giving either side props here.

If you want to make America better, respect the rights of others' free speech and their freedom to assemble.  If you don't agree with them, let them be.  If someone is propulgating garbage, organize teach-ins.  Take to the internet.  If you're the media, REPORT the news; don't try to manufacture it.  I don't think that's real unreasonable, but there are lots of people who are only for free speech when they're the ones running their mouth.

Memo to fuzzy bear.

The counter protesters in Charlotte included numerous organized Christian congregations, both black and white, many of which were led by pastors. Just curious if you include them among scumbags because two or three college kids in the crowd calling themselves antifa threw urine filled water balloons at neo-nazis. Please advise.

More wishy-washy responses by Fuzzy. What a surprise.
All those words in his post, and they equal crap-o-la. Does the guy ever take a straight position on any issue?

He has. He has clearly stated that Nazis are to be treated as respected members of society.

He said and I quote: "The people who make their gatherings violent are the COUNTERPROTESTERS" (with extra emphasis with him capitalizing COUNTERPROTESTERS to make sure you know who he is blaming). Yet in Chancellorsville, it was the Nazis that ran over a crowd of people and killed one innocent woman.
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