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« Reply #1700 on: February 26, 2019, 07:09:42 PM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.
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« Reply #1701 on: February 26, 2019, 07:13:01 PM »

Biden's implosion is going to be biblical. He'll lead every poll after he announces. The honeymoon period will be real. But what comes after -- the POP. The collapse.

I can't wait to see him drop out.
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« Reply #1702 on: February 26, 2019, 07:54:40 PM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

Nominating just about any of the candidates running qualifies as throwing away the nomination. The Democratic Party isn't sending its best, folks!
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« Reply #1703 on: February 26, 2019, 08:51:16 PM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

Nominating just about any of the candidates running qualifies as throwing away the nomination. The Democratic Party isn't sending its best, folks!

Dude, if only we'd wise up and draft Neil Abercrombie Sad
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« Reply #1704 on: February 26, 2019, 09:02:22 PM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

Nominating just about any of the candidates running qualifies as throwing away the nomination. The Democratic Party isn't sending its best, folks!

Dude, if only we'd wise up and draft Neil Abercrombie Sad

Naw, forget that. We need a ticket of experienced state legislators from Arkansas to bring back the WWC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_McCuiston
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milt_Earnhart
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« Reply #1705 on: February 26, 2019, 09:17:00 PM »

Biden's implosion is going to be biblical. He'll lead every poll after he announces. The honeymoon period will be real. But what comes after -- the POP. The collapse.

I can't wait to see him drop out.
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« Reply #1706 on: February 26, 2019, 10:22:11 PM »

Biden's implosion is going to be biblical. He'll lead every poll after he announces. The honeymoon period will be real. But what comes after -- the POP. The collapse.

I can't wait to see him drop out.
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« Reply #1707 on: February 26, 2019, 10:23:14 PM »

Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every issue of consequence for his entire career. Iraq, Anita Hill, the bankruptcy bill, deregulation...

It's a shame that he will destroy his legacy this way.
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« Reply #1708 on: February 26, 2019, 10:24:31 PM »

I don't know how after all this time the infamous Biden groping video has gotten zero attention from the media. I'm sure it will the moment he runs but it's crazy how something that likely ends his campaign is just out there in the open.
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« Reply #1709 on: February 26, 2019, 10:34:58 PM »


Remind me of what Atlas was saying about Trump in 2015. "Yeah he's leading in the polls now, but he'll collapse any minute now! I can't believe X scandal hasn't ended his campaign already."
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« Reply #1710 on: February 26, 2019, 10:36:39 PM »


Remind me of what Atlas was saying about Trump in 2015. "Yeah he's leading in the polls now, but he'll collapse any minute now! I can't believe X scandal hasn't ended his campaign already."

The left doesn't work the same way as the right in this way - while the latter tend to close ranks, the former tend to fragment.
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« Reply #1711 on: February 26, 2019, 10:44:34 PM »

Remind me of what Atlas was saying about Trump in 2015. "Yeah he's leading in the polls now, but he'll collapse any minute now! I can't believe X scandal hasn't ended his campaign already."
Trump's racism was right up the alley of the GOP base. The only folks in denial were beltway Republicans and elitist white liberals who have Black Lives Matter signs in their gentrified yards but send their children to private schools. People of color were not surprised Trump won the nomination.

Biden's record and current positions are at complete odds with the base of the Democratic Party. Like I said in another thread most people are brainwashed to think Biden is 1. pro-working class and 2. an ally of the black community because he and Obama had cute memes. There's no substance there. He is a paper tiger and will be quickly swept up with the rest of the trash once he's on a debate staged forced to defend his right wing policies.
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« Reply #1712 on: February 26, 2019, 11:25:48 PM »

If he wins the primary,
He would be a formidable GE candidate he could run as a return to the Obama years and court Democrats and emphasize past stances to court moderates. As a candidate, he scares me more than liberals like Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders, both of whom would struggle to win moderates
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« Reply #1713 on: February 27, 2019, 12:19:33 AM »


Remind me of what Atlas was saying about Trump in 2015. "Yeah he's leading in the polls now, but he'll collapse any minute now! I can't believe X scandal hasn't ended his campaign already."

Wasn't it not that long ago that you were saying that only Harris and Gabbard had a shot at the nomination (implying that Biden didn't)?
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« Reply #1714 on: February 27, 2019, 12:34:53 AM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how much good will Biden has built up from 8 years as being VP for a President that is extremely popular with the party and a majority of Independents.
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« Reply #1715 on: February 27, 2019, 12:41:23 AM »

Biden: “The most important people in my life want me to run”:

https://www.apnews.com/e1501d8ca00345d1a5d83f8f3c0ad0b2

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In fact, here’s a link to Biden’s full (lengthy) answer about his 2020 deliberations:

https://twitter.com/DavidWright_CNN/status/1100511431865323521

In other news, O’Rourke has sent a survey to his supporters:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20190226/beto-orourke-surveys-his-supporters-as-he-nears-decision-on-presidential-race

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« Reply #1716 on: February 27, 2019, 01:09:21 AM »

Bloomberg was in the early caucus state of Nevada today, but his only 2020 update was to say "I haven't made a decision yet":

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/feb/26/bloomberg-praises-new-gun-law-in-nevada-no-decisio/
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« Reply #1717 on: February 27, 2019, 01:39:00 AM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how much good will Biden has built up from 8 years as being VP for a President that is extremely popular with the party and a majority of Independents.

I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how disappointing a Biden presidency would be given that he's pretty much a conservative on everything
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« Reply #1718 on: February 27, 2019, 02:32:09 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2019, 06:09:49 AM by 136or142 »

Attended this tonight: https://events.ubc.ca/john-kasich/?fbclid=IwAR3Ek2GqoPe0vysn7Z55P8WpLCTixUYrEFVMRrNW3O2uBtENIWz5x7ktrNI

UBC Connects with Governor John Kasich

Kasich said he has no idea what the future holds for him, but said that he very much enjoyed running for President.  He said that he wishes that he had 'slowed down' when running though.  

I.E when going through life take time to stop and smell the roses.

According to a biographer on Aleister Crowley, what he meant by 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' Crowley was not at all stating 'do whatever you want' but more or less the exact opposite.  Although Crowley was apparently an agnostic, he believed that every person was given a mission by their creator and a person's purpose in life was to do their mission: 'do what thou wilt.'

Kasich's talk was a mix of politics, positive thinking and spiritual/religious views and he essentially expressed the same philosophy as Alistair Crowley in that regard.

I disagree with Governor Kasich on a lot of issues, but I think he'd be a very decent President.

He said that every individual can effect change in their own way (positive thinking) but he also endorsed protests to effect change on the political level.  He said that he supported the teens who take time off of school to protest inaction on global warming and he said that he tried to get people to organize a mass protest in Ohio to support 'red flag' gun laws, but that nobody was interested.
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« Reply #1719 on: February 27, 2019, 08:33:07 AM »



I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how disappointing a Biden presidency would be given that he's pretty much a conservative on everything

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People need to stop calling moderate Democrats, conservative just because they don't agree with providing free everything and want a more incremental approach to affordable college and universal healthcare. Biden is definitely liberal on most issues and moderate on others. The day Joe Biden is classified as "conservative" is the day the Democrats have fully embraced socialism.
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« Reply #1720 on: February 27, 2019, 08:46:36 AM »

Reminder: This is a tea leaves thread, not a place for specific discussion of a candidate's ideology or policies.
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« Reply #1721 on: February 27, 2019, 09:26:38 AM »

Good news on Biden, he's the candidate most suited to beat Trump. Atlas vastly underrates him when compared to people in real life's opinion. It's ridiculous.

It makes me feel like the Dems are about to do what the GOP did so many times during the Obama administration and throw away a winnable race during the primary a la Christine O'Donnell, Richard Mourdock, and Todd Akin.

I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how much good will Biden has built up from 8 years as being VP for a President that is extremely popular with the party and a majority of Independents.

I really don't think Atlas or even some of the twittersphere understand just how disappointing a Biden presidency would be given that he's pretty much a conservative on everything


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« Reply #1722 on: February 27, 2019, 10:15:03 AM »

Swalwell had previously suggested that, were he to run, he might reassess his position again at the end of this year and quit the presidential race to run for reelection, if he weren't doing well in the presidential race.

Now he seems to be singing a different tune though, saying that if he runs for president, it'll be the presidency or bust:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Rep-Eric-Swalwell-will-give-up-East-Bay-seat-if-13646628.php

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« Reply #1723 on: February 27, 2019, 05:18:51 PM »

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/gov-jay-inslees-2020-presidential-campaign-announcement-expected-this-week/

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« Reply #1724 on: February 27, 2019, 05:29:18 PM »

Beto opts not to run for Senate, will likely announce Presidential bid in the coming weeks.
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