The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[Mr. Morden]

Garcetti has been urged to resign as mayor if he runs for president, but he's "never taken the idea of quitting seriously":

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/la-mayor-eric-garcettis-plan-run-president/579301/

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[Mr. Morden]

Booker announcement could come “within weeks”.  Most of the pieces are already in place, as his team has been “laying the groundwork for a potential campaign for months”.  However, a final decision hasn’t been made yet on who the campaign manager will be:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/cory-booker-2020-campaign-taking-shape/index.html

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In other news, Merkley asked about 2020 at a town hall, but dodges:

https://lebanon-express.com/news/local/merkley-barnstorms-mid-valley/article_df1414d9-7611-5e8d-a320-2bc14942a2d6.html

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[RogueBeaver]

Beto supports a "Green New Deal."

[Mr. Morden]

Gillibrand reaching out to Wall Street to see if there’s support there for her likely presidential run:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/04/kirsten-gillibrand-reaches-out-to-wall-street-execs-about-potential-2020-run-for-president.html

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[Pyro]

Beto supports a "Green New Deal."

Correction: A Beto spokesman was reported stating that the congressman is "supportive of the concept" of a Green New Deal - that is far from a pledge to fight for, much less endorse, the platform. Phrasing and word choice is important, folks.

For instance, I would be supportive of the concept of buying an electric car - but actually moving ahead with doing so is a different story.

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Beto supports a "Green New Deal."

Correction: A Beto spokesman was reported stating that the congressman is "supportive of the concept" of a Green New Deal - that is far from a pledge to fight for, much less endorse, the platform. Phrasing and word choice is important, folks.

For instance, I would be supportive of the concept of buying an electric car - but actually moving ahead with doing so is a different story.

Yes, this is different from Bernie working on an actual Green New Deal together with AOC.

Also Beto O'Rourke was not one of the 46 co-sponsors of the Off Fossil Fuels bill.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3671/cosponsors

[Joey1996]

Gillibrand reaching out to Wall Street to see if there’s support there for her likely presidential run:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/04/kirsten-gillibrand-reaches-out-to-wall-street-execs-about-potential-2020-run-for-president.html

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Smh

[indietraveler]

For what it's worth (probably not much), I just completed an extensive poll today for what was likely a Bloomberg internal.

It focused on my past primary decisions, what direction I think the Dems should take going forward, and who I would vote for in the caucus under several different scenarios. Also asked if I was more or less likely to support Bloomberg based on different statements.

The interesting part was who was listed as the choices for most of the questions (for the most part, write-ins weren't an option): Bernie, Joe, Elizabeth, Kamala, Beto, and of course, Michael.

This was an online poll.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

I'm actually curious, aside from Sanders, is O'Rourke the only candidate on record for carbon pricing? I know Gillibrand supports Cap and Trade but **politically** the two do not mean the same thing.

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I'm actually curious, aside from Sanders, is O'Rourke the only candidate on record for carbon pricing? I know Gillibrand supports Cap and Trade but **politically** the two do not mean the same thing.

Warren also supported the concept of a Green New Deal, without endorsing anything specific.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1081340892114534400

[Deleted User #4049]

https://https  ://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1081340892114534400

What even is the appeal of this guy? Who are the people voting for him?

[TarHeelDem]

https://twitter.com/CongressChanges/status/1081362350127697920

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[Bacon King]

Wtf do these clowns like Buttigieg, Castro, McAuliffe and co. think their potential winning coalition is going to consist of

Buttgig is just doing this to boost his a national profile: growing name recognition and building establishment/donor connections for his next attempt at becoming DNC chairman and/or running for some statewide race in Indiana.

Castro is an ambitious empty suit who is egotistical enough to believe he's the "Hispanic Barack Obama", even though the people building that hype are morons with no idea what they're talking about

T-Mac is a popular former governer with a solid record. He will be brought up and discussed far more often than his candidacy would otherwise warrant due to probably 2/3 of the DC press corps living in his state; literally every Virginia governor since Chuck Robb has at some point been hyped up as "potential presidential candidate" and (at least) flirted with running for office. As a former DNC Chairman he also has literally all the insider connections, has major experience with previous Presidential campaigns so he knows firsthand what to do and/or not to do, and as a guy who has literally drank rum straight from the bottle on cable news his status as "candidate you'd have a drink with" is unparalleled. Lastly T-Mac is one of those "ruthless pragmatists" willing to get his hands dirty to win with the talent to cover it up well (I remain convinced that he spent election night 2014 personally stuffing ballot boxes in NOVA, toiling away for hours to ensure Mark Warner's reelection.)

tl;dr don't underestimate T-Mac, he's leagues above those also-rans and should be taken seriously

[Roll Roons]

Wtf do these clowns like Buttigieg, Castro, McAuliffe and co. think their potential winning coalition is going to consist of

Buttgig is just doing this to boost his a national profile: growing name recognition and building establishment/donor connections for his next attempt at becoming DNC chairman and/or running for some statewide race in Indiana.

Castro is an ambitious empty suit who is egotistical enough to believe he's the "Hispanic Barack Obama", even though the people building that hype are morons with no idea what they're talking about

T-Mac is a popular former governer with a solid record. He will be brought up and discussed far more often than his candidacy would otherwise warrant due to probably 2/3 of the DC press corps living in his state; literally every Virginia governor since Chuck Robb has at some point been hyped up as "potential presidential candidate" and (at least) flirted with running for office. As a former DNC Chairman he also has literally all the insider connections, has major experience with previous Presidential campaigns so he knows firsthand what to do and/or not to do, and as a guy who has literally drank rum straight from the bottle on cable news his status as "candidate you'd have a drink with" is unparalleled. Lastly T-Mac is one of those "ruthless pragmatists" willing to get his hands dirty to win with the talent to cover it up well (I remain convinced that he spent election night 2014 personally stuffing ballot boxes in NOVA, toiling away for hours to ensure Mark Warner's reelection.)

tl;dr don't underestimate T-Mac, he's leagues above those also-rans and should be taken seriously

Buttigieg probably won't be able to win a statewide race in Indiana. I see him getting a cabinet position (HUD or Transportation) in the next Democratic administration.

Also T-Mac would be a terrible nominee for the Democrats. As you pointed out, he's the ultimate DC insider in every way possible. Trump can just dust off the "Drain the Swamp" playbook and it will work just as well as it did against Hillary. He's even been under investigation for shady business dealings. Stunts like drinking rum on live TV just come off as pandering. Plus Bernie types will be completely turned off by him.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

A lot of people who we thought were clear candidates are now not running (O'Malley, Cuomo, Patrick, Avenatti, but he was obviously under exceptional circumstances). Who else falls into the "has no shot and has been lying low recently" category?

- Eric Holder
- Eric Swalwell
- Tim Ryan, I think because Brown is exploring a run
- Eric Garcetti

[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

A lot of people who we thought were clear candidates are now not running (O'Malley, Cuomo, Patrick, Avenatti, but he was obviously under exceptional circumstances). Who else falls into the "has no shot and has been lying low recently" category?

- Eric Holder
- Eric Swalwell
- Tim Ryan, I think because Brown is exploring a run
- Eric Garcetti

Why are three of them called Eric lmao

[Bacon King]

Buttigieg probably won't be able to win a statewide race in Indiana. I see him getting a cabinet position (HUD or Transportation) in the next Democratic administration.

Also T-Mac would be a terrible nominee for the Democrats. As you pointed out, he's the ultimate DC insider in every way possible. Trump can just dust off the "Drain the Swamp" playbook and it will work just as well as it did against Hillary. He's even been under investigation for shady business dealings. Stunts like drinking rum on live TV just come off as pandering. Plus Bernie types will be completely turned off by him.

You're right about Buttgig. I hadn't really considered it but "presidential campaign as an audition for the cabinet" has actually become pretty common lately.

I agree T-Mac would be a bad candidate on many levels, I'm just pointing out that if he's serious about running then he will be treated as a major candidate by the media and by "conventional wisdom", not reduced to the level of Buttgig _{(btw note that I'm not saying anything about how he'll actually perform in the primary, just saying how seriously his campaign will be treated. He could very well end up as the Jeb! of 2020)}

[henster]

Buttigieg probably won't be able to win a statewide race in Indiana. I see him getting a cabinet position (HUD or Transportation) in the next Democratic administration.

Also T-Mac would be a terrible nominee for the Democrats. As you pointed out, he's the ultimate DC insider in every way possible. Trump can just dust off the "Drain the Swamp" playbook and it will work just as well as it did against Hillary. He's even been under investigation for shady business dealings. Stunts like drinking rum on live TV just come off as pandering. Plus Bernie types will be completely turned off by him.

You're right about Buttgig. I hadn't really considered it but "presidential campaign as an audition for the cabinet" has actually become pretty common lately.

I agree T-Mac would be a bad candidate on many levels, I'm just pointing out that if he's serious about running then he will be treated as a major candidate by the media and by "conventional wisdom", not reduced to the level of Buttgig _{(btw note that I'm not saying anything about how he'll actually perform in the primary, just saying how seriously his campaign will be treated. He could very well end up as the Jeb! of 2020)}

I think McAuliffe is at the bottom of the totem pole at least when it comes to old white dudes running. Inslee and Hickenlooper both have more impressive records than him, honestly T-Mac didn't really accomplish all that much as Gov thanks to the GOP, but still. What is he really going to run on besides restoring felon rights and vetoing a bunch of bills?

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/CongressChanges/status/1081362350127697920

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Please no DINOs.

[Mr. Morden]

I think some of this has already been mentioned here, but this story on small $ fundraising mentions Gillibrand's and Harris's efforts to build their national lists:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/05/2020-elections-small-donor-fundraising-democrats-actblue-1081892

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[Mr. Morden]

Booker headed to South Carolina on MLK Day (Jan. 21):

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/south-carolina/article223864720.html

[Mr. Morden]

Sherrod Brown's wife Connie Schultz gives an update on his decision timeline ("within the next two months"):

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/06/politics/sherrod-brown-2020-presidential-election/index.html

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[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1082031889509175296

[Mr. Morden]

Biden “leaning toward running” and “likely to decide within the next two weeks”:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/06/us/politics/joe-biden-2020-president.html

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