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« Reply #200 on: November 06, 2018, 11:17:17 PM »

Potential Democratic candidate Sherrod Brown already projected to win re-election less than an hour after polls close.

Brown hasn't been signaling presidential interest.  However, he did appear open to being VP for Clinton in 2016, but Kasich as governor may have hurt his chances (since the gov would pick his successor).  Cordray's loss tonight is certainly a hit to Brown's 2020 veep chances.
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« Reply #201 on: November 06, 2018, 11:43:35 PM »

Well, Sherrod Brown ended his victory speech with this:

"That is the message coming out of Ohio in 2018, and that is the blueprint for America for 2020."

That sounds like he's considering a run.
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« Reply #202 on: November 07, 2018, 12:20:22 AM »

Well, Sherrod Brown ended his victory speech with this:

"That is the message coming out of Ohio in 2018, and that is the blueprint for America for 2020."

That sounds like he's considering a run.

Well, he's one of the very few to consider if you want to win Ohio in 2020. Kamala Harris sure isn't.
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« Reply #203 on: November 07, 2018, 02:03:04 AM »

Well, Sherrod Brown ended his victory speech with this:

"That is the message coming out of Ohio in 2018, and that is the blueprint for America for 2020."

That sounds like he's considering a run.

Well, he's one of the very few to consider if you want to win Ohio in 2020. Kamala Harris sure isn't.

Anyone who isn't a White Male, or Avenatti, is probably not who you want to run in Ohio if you want to win the state as a Democrat.

In a neutral year, though Brown would have lost.
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« Reply #204 on: November 07, 2018, 02:58:54 AM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.
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« Reply #205 on: November 07, 2018, 08:58:46 AM »

Bloomberg made a press release about the midterms this morning - "We can do better in America today, and we must start now".

Chalk it up as Delaney, Castro, Warren, Harris, and now Bloomberg-  at least.
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« Reply #206 on: November 07, 2018, 10:18:04 AM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.


Even Warren?

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« Reply #207 on: November 07, 2018, 11:51:51 AM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.


Even Warren?



Or Bernie??
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« Reply #208 on: November 07, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.


Even Warren?



Or Bernie??

Non 0 chance that Bernie's theoretical coattails pull Scott down in 2020, but he would have to resign pretty late though.
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« Reply #209 on: November 07, 2018, 12:32:16 PM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.


Even Warren?



Or Bernie??

A few ideas under this:

1. I think that having a Republican governor in office only really significantly decreases the chance of somebody being a VP option. The Presidency, imo, is significantly more valuable than a Senate seat, and the difference is much more than exists between the VP and Senate.

2. The Senate majority might just be out of reach in 2020 anyway. Even if Tester holds out and Sinema wins, Democrats would face a 53-47 (I think) Senate. Jones is DoA. They'd have to win four of of Colorado, Arizona, Iowa, Maine, and North Carolina. Maybe some of Kansas, Kentucky, Georgia, or Montana are somewhat competitive to make it work out a bit easier. If it's looking close to 50-50, maybe don't pull a D Senator in an R state, but if you're not going to win the majority anyway, why not try to boost your ticket using the VP slot?
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« Reply #210 on: November 07, 2018, 01:37:37 PM »

Need Jeff Flake to primary Trump just to get a Jeb 2.0 moment
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« Reply #211 on: November 07, 2018, 05:27:45 PM »

Amy Klobuchar is receiving a lot of attention after last night:

"Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a low-key pragmatist who easily won reelection last night, seemed destined to be on a vice presidential shortlist. But if pragmatic Midwestern women were good for Democrats in 2018, then they might be even better as the ticket-topper in 2020. Klobuchar deserves a fresh look as a presidential candidate. Other Midwestern senators who won reelection last night—Sherrod Brown of Ohio, Debbie Stabenow and Gary Peters of Michigan, and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin—would warrant consideration, too, but unlike Klobuchar, none has made moves to suggest a presidential run."

Source: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/07/elections-democrats-2018-2020-222258

https://amp.businessinsider.com/amy-klobuchar-2020-democrat-president-elected-minnesota-reactions-2018-11

https://wccoradio.radio.com/articles/minnesota-senator-amy-klobuchar-running-president
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« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2018, 05:46:58 PM »

Brown's presidential campaign ended the moment the race was called for Mike DeWine, with the way the Senate it loosing right now any Dem Sen/GOP Gov is a no go.


Even Warren?



Or Bernie??

Vermont has a special election in 3 months, so it doesn't really matter.
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« Reply #213 on: November 07, 2018, 07:47:50 PM »

Well, Sherrod Brown ended his victory speech with this:

"That is the message coming out of Ohio in 2018, and that is the blueprint for America for 2020."

That sounds like he's considering a run.

I would love that, but it's a terrible idea for the Senate. DeWine cannot be allowed to have his revenge for Brown defeating him in 2006 by appointing Jim Jordan to replace him or something. DeWine winning makes Sherrod Brown being on a national ticket impossible.
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« Reply #214 on: November 07, 2018, 07:54:55 PM »

Amy Klobuchar is receiving a lot of attention after last night:

"Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a low-key pragmatist who easily won reelection last night, seemed destined to be on a vice presidential shortlist. But if pragmatic Midwestern women were good for Democrats in 2018, then they might be even better as the ticket-topper in 2020. Klobuchar deserves a fresh look as a presidential candidate. Other Midwestern senators who won reelection last night—Sherrod Brown of Ohio, Debbie Stabenow and Gary Peters of Michigan, and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin—would warrant consideration, too, but unlike Klobuchar, none has made moves to suggest a presidential run."

Source: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/07/elections-democrats-2018-2020-222258

https://amp.businessinsider.com/amy-klobuchar-2020-democrat-president-elected-minnesota-reactions-2018-11

https://wccoradio.radio.com/articles/minnesota-senator-amy-klobuchar-running-president

BuzzFeed on Klobuchar and Sherrod Brown: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/amy-klobuchar-sherrod-brown-2020-president-midterm-elections
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« Reply #215 on: November 07, 2018, 11:22:29 PM »

O’Malley’s in Nevada today:

https://twitter.com/MartinOMalley/status/1058834089061560320

He’s also now started putting out campaign-style Youtube videos at a rate of more than one a day, in his “This We Believe” series.  E.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7OrZxOR3w

These videos are full of his fortune cookie-like sayings, e.g.:

“We are stumbling backwards into the future, but the world only spins forward.”

“No people ever mastered the winds of change by pretending that they weren’t blowing.”

Can’t wait for him to talk about how love is a superpower in the primary debates.


He just finished this video series with this exciting finale:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkAkbyqh29k

In it, he recycles the following great O'Malley-isms:

“You and I are part of a living, self-creating mystery, known as the United States of America.”
“Our economy is not money.  It is people.  All of our people.”
“There’s a brighter picture to paint, and darkness makes a great canvas.”
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« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2018, 01:32:29 AM »


Bernie was the only Senator to endorse Gillum in the primary. I guess he just wasn't the right type of black for Harris. Harris endorsed white Buffy Wicks over black Hispanic lesbian immigrant Jovanka Beckles. You only hear about identity politics when it benefits the establishment candidate.

It's not like she endorsed Graham and tried to take Gillum down. But go off

She did endorse Buffy Wicks over Jovanka Beckles and Nancy O'Malley over Pamela Price. And she certainly didn't endorse an actually progressive black woman named K. Harris who ran for Senate in Delaware.


WHY DIDN'T SHE ENDORSE JOHN JAMES? SAD!
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« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2018, 01:36:54 AM »


Bernie was the only Senator to endorse Gillum in the primary. I guess he just wasn't the right type of black for Harris. Harris endorsed white Buffy Wicks over black Hispanic lesbian immigrant Jovanka Beckles. You only hear about identity politics when it benefits the establishment candidate.

It's not like she endorsed Graham and tried to take Gillum down. But go off

She did endorse Buffy Wicks over Jovanka Beckles and Nancy O'Malley over Pamela Price. And she certainly didn't endorse an actually progressive black woman named K. Harris who ran for Senate in Delaware.


WHY DIDN'T SHE ENDORSE JOHN JAMES? SAD!

I'm talking about progressive blacks, not Republican blacks.
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« Reply #218 on: November 08, 2018, 01:37:29 AM »


Here's the relevant excerpt regarding Brown's intentions:

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« Reply #219 on: November 08, 2018, 01:58:54 AM »


Bernie was the only Senator to endorse Gillum in the primary. I guess he just wasn't the right type of black for Harris. Harris endorsed white Buffy Wicks over black Hispanic lesbian immigrant Jovanka Beckles. You only hear about identity politics when it benefits the establishment candidate.

It's not like she endorsed Graham and tried to take Gillum down. But go off

She did endorse Buffy Wicks over Jovanka Beckles and Nancy O'Malley over Pamela Price. And she certainly didn't endorse an actually progressive black woman named K. Harris who ran for Senate in Delaware.


WHY DIDN'T SHE ENDORSE JOHN JAMES? SAD!

I'm sure she would've endorsed James had actually gotten a serious primary challenge (sarcasm).
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« Reply #220 on: November 08, 2018, 01:36:01 PM »

Swalwell will run.
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« Reply #221 on: November 08, 2018, 01:55:58 PM »


Bernie was the only Senator to endorse Gillum in the primary. I guess he just wasn't the right type of black for Harris. Harris endorsed white Buffy Wicks over black Hispanic lesbian immigrant Jovanka Beckles. You only hear about identity politics when it benefits the establishment candidate.

It's not like she endorsed Graham and tried to take Gillum down. But go off

She did endorse Buffy Wicks over Jovanka Beckles and Nancy O'Malley over Pamela Price. And she certainly didn't endorse an actually progressive black woman named K. Harris who ran for Senate in Delaware.


WHY DIDN'T SHE ENDORSE JOHN JAMES? SAD!

I'm sure she would've endorsed James had actually gotten a serious primary challenge (sarcasm).

Had Abrams and Gillum won they'd obviously would've been kingmakers in the primary, having no one right now in either FL/GA obviously leaves things up in the air. Abrams would've definitely endorsed Harris while Gillum maybe Booker but its moot atp.
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« Reply #222 on: November 08, 2018, 03:17:56 PM »


Unless the "source" is Salwell himself, I won't believe it.
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« Reply #223 on: November 08, 2018, 05:28:03 PM »


Swalwell has basically been the Representative from IA-AL this past year, and I'm willing to bet that the "close source" is a plant from his staff to get his name out there. He's running.
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« Reply #224 on: November 08, 2018, 06:22:38 PM »

Who?
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