The BlueSwan Basement of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VIII

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Context:

Whatever the punishment in MN is for Involuntary manslaughter

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Do you think China will be more responsible and compassionate as a world superpower compared to America?

Considering they are helping African and other poorer nations build roads, train stations, and airports and helping other countries affected by COVID by donating PPE and ventilators, I think they are. 

[fhtagn]

With zero due respect, if you aren't voting for Biden, shut the hell up about the protests.

You don't care.  You are just a poser.  You are pretending to care for credibility.  But you don't give enough of a damn to sacrifice your precious sanctity, your precious moral purity.  That shows where your priorities truly are.  Selfish sanctimony comes first.  Actually helping the oppressed, somewhere further down.

We live in a democratic republic where individual power is wielded through the election of officials who enact changes on our behalf.  There is exactly ONE way to get real, permanent, meaningful change in this country, and that is to put officials in office who are committed to bringing about that change.  What this means is that there is ONE thing you can do this year to actually help black lives, and that is to vote straight Democrat all the way down your ballot, from Biden on down to dogcatcher.

"But the root of the problem is capitalism!"  I guess the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1864 accomplished nothing for black people then.  I guess the election of Lyndon Johnson in 1964 accomplished nothing.  I guess the election of Barack Obama in 2008 accomplished nothing.  Because none of those presidents dismantled capitalism so electing them was just a waste of time.  Thank you for lecturing black people on what real progress means!  I guess all

If you're voting Green, or voting Lib, or abstaining, or some other masturbatory action, that says everything about you.  You pretend to care about black lives.  You pretend to listen to what they have to say.  But when given the option to actually help them, at the cost of nothing but your precious ego, you proudly say "nope, can't help you with that one chief."

[S019]

With zero due respect, if you aren't voting for Biden, shut the hell up about the protests.

You don't care.  You are just a poser.  You are pretending to care for credibility.  But you don't give enough of a damn to sacrifice your precious sanctity, your precious moral purity.  That shows where your priorities truly are.  Selfish sanctimony comes first.  Actually helping the oppressed, somewhere further down.

We live in a democratic republic where individual power is wielded through the election of officials who enact changes on our behalf.  There is exactly ONE way to get real, permanent, meaningful change in this country, and that is to put officials in office who are committed to bringing about that change.  What this means is that there is ONE thing you can do this year to actually help black lives, and that is to vote straight Democrat all the way down your ballot, from Biden on down to dogcatcher.

"But the root of the problem is capitalism!"  I guess the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1864 accomplished nothing for black people then.  I guess the election of Lyndon Johnson in 1964 accomplished nothing.  I guess the election of Barack Obama in 2008 accomplished nothing.  Because none of those presidents dismantled capitalism so electing them was just a waste of time.  Thank you for lecturing black people on what real progress means!  I guess all

If you're voting Green, or voting Lib, or abstaining, or some other masturbatory action, that says everything about you.  You pretend to care about black lives.  You pretend to listen to what they have to say.  But when given the option to actually help them, at the cost of nothing but your precious ego, you proudly say "nope, can't help you with that one chief."

That post is neither absurd nor ignorant, of course, I wouldn't put it that way, but it does not reach the high bar of terribleness to be in this thread.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Oh yeah, I stand by that post 100%.

I also find it funny how I didn't even call out Republicans at all, the post was entirely focused on socialists and third-party Buster types, yet it was all Trump supporters who got their panties in a bunch.  Bruh, the post ain't even about you.

[fhtagn]

Oh yeah, I stand by that post 100%.

I also find it funny how I didn't even call out Republicans at all, the post was entirely focused on socialists and third-party Buster types, yet it was all Trump supporters who got their panties in a bunch.  Bruh, the post ain't even about you.

last I checked, everyone you've gone after that responded to your low-IQ take isn't even a Trump supporter.

Try harder next time.

[Badger]

Also, as for the header of this thread. Somebody please show me where my posts were either absurd or ignorant.

As weird, albeit perhaps somewhat misunderstood, as your comments were, I don't think you are even in the top 50% of posters more deserving this thread to be titled after them. Fwiw.

[SevenEleven]

I do agree that too much immigration is bad for our culture and I do believe dreamers should be counted as illegals though the children should be allowed to stay in good foster homes and then they should be allowed to stay as adults if they can prove they won't commit crime and get a job. I like most of the current deportation laws as currently is and I believe the country would be negatively affected by open borders, soft laws and loose enforcement. We should solve illegal immigration by building a wall and leaving South and Central America.

[BlueSwan]

With zero due respect, if you aren't voting for Biden, shut the hell up about the protests.

You don't care.  You are just a poser.  You are pretending to care for credibility.  But you don't give enough of a damn to sacrifice your precious sanctity, your precious moral purity.  That shows where your priorities truly are.  Selfish sanctimony comes first.  Actually helping the oppressed, somewhere further down.

We live in a democratic republic where individual power is wielded through the election of officials who enact changes on our behalf.  There is exactly ONE way to get real, permanent, meaningful change in this country, and that is to put officials in office who are committed to bringing about that change.  What this means is that there is ONE thing you can do this year to actually help black lives, and that is to vote straight Democrat all the way down your ballot, from Biden on down to dogcatcher.

"But the root of the problem is capitalism!"  I guess the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1864 accomplished nothing for black people then.  I guess the election of Lyndon Johnson in 1964 accomplished nothing.  I guess the election of Barack Obama in 2008 accomplished nothing.  Because none of those presidents dismantled capitalism so electing them was just a waste of time.  Thank you for lecturing black people on what real progress means!  I guess all

If you're voting Green, or voting Lib, or abstaining, or some other masturbatory action, that says everything about you.  You pretend to care about black lives.  You pretend to listen to what they have to say.  But when given the option to actually help them, at the cost of nothing but your precious ego, you proudly say "nope, can't help you with that one chief."

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

[Badger]

With zero due respect, if you aren't voting for Biden, shut the hell up about the protests.

You don't care.  You are just a poser.  You are pretending to care for credibility.  But you don't give enough of a damn to sacrifice your precious sanctity, your precious moral purity.  That shows where your priorities truly are.  Selfish sanctimony comes first.  Actually helping the oppressed, somewhere further down.

We live in a democratic republic where individual power is wielded through the election of officials who enact changes on our behalf.  There is exactly ONE way to get real, permanent, meaningful change in this country, and that is to put officials in office who are committed to bringing about that change.  What this means is that there is ONE thing you can do this year to actually help black lives, and that is to vote straight Democrat all the way down your ballot, from Biden on down to dogcatcher.

"But the root of the problem is capitalism!"  I guess the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1864 accomplished nothing for black people then.  I guess the election of Lyndon Johnson in 1964 accomplished nothing.  I guess the election of Barack Obama in 2008 accomplished nothing.  Because none of those presidents dismantled capitalism so electing them was just a waste of time.  Thank you for lecturing black people on what real progress means!  I guess all

If you're voting Green, or voting Lib, or abstaining, or some other masturbatory action, that says everything about you.  You pretend to care about black lives.  You pretend to listen to what they have to say.  But when given the option to actually help them, at the cost of nothing but your precious ego, you proudly say "nope, can't help you with that one chief."

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

This. Certainly triggered some people with hard truths though.

[Donerail]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

[free my dawg]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

[Sumner 1868]

Bernie Leftist loons will claim Rand Paul is being persecuted by Hillary and Obama.

They are quite illogical, and are mental defects.

Whyte privilege must be nice.  

[free my dawg]

Bernie Leftist loons will claim Rand Paul is being persecuted by Hillary and Obama.

They are quite illogical, and are mental defects.

Whyte privilege must be nice. 

Between this and verbally fellating Chauvin, I think we need to rename the thread.

[WD]

We won't lose.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

https://politicalwire.com/2020/06/03/rand-paul-admits-blocking-anti-lynching-bill/

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) “acknowledged that he is holding up a bill with broad bipartisan support that would make lynching a federal hate crime, saying he fears it could allow enhanced penalties for altercations that result in only ‘minor bruising,'” the Washington Post reports.

“Paul’s objection halted a measure that appeared on the verge of getting to the president’s desk earlier this year after more than a century of stymied attempts by Congress to pass anti-lynching legislation. And it comes amid a nationwide convulsion over the treatment of black Americans by law enforcement officers.”

Context:

The language of the House bill, which was named for Emmett Till, the 14-year-old murdered in Mississippi in 1955, is very similar to another anti-lynching bill that passed the Senate last year by unanimous consent. It was authored by the only three African Americans currently serving in the Senate, Republican Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina and Democratic Sens. Kamala Harris of California and Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/rand-paul-lynching-legislation/index.html

Regardless of your opinions on the matter, Rand Paul is not "human scum" for opposing it.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

I don’t think anyone is holding Bloomberg up as the future of the Democratic Party.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

I don’t think anyone is holding Bloomberg up as the future of the Democratic Party.

I think he's referring to Buttigieg.

[free my dawg]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

I don’t think anyone is holding Bloomberg up as the future of the Democratic Party.

The other Dem mayor.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

I don’t think anyone is holding Bloomberg up as the future of the Democratic Party.

The other Dem mayor.

Bill De Blasio’s definitely not the future of the Democratic Party

[GeneralMacArthur]

First of all, my comment addressed why your local Dem mayor is likely to disappoint you.  Police unions have a lot of power.  Mayors have less power.  If a mayor goes to war with the police union, they will lose.  So they have to find some sort of middle ground between reform and appeasement.  Otherwise nothing will get done at all.  If you want police reform, it needs to come from an entity that's more powerful than the police unions, like the senate.  The only other option is to reduce the political power of police unions and reward reformers who pick fights with them, which is going to be really tricky.

Secondly, what is the point of cherry-picking isolated examples of Democrats who have not suceeded?  The Democratic Party wants police reform.  This is not up for debate.  If you give the Democrats enough power, you will get that reform.  In the same way that the existence of Strom Thurmand (D - SC) did not prevent the Civil Rights Act from being passed when the Dems had 68 votes in the Senate.  Just because Rahm Emanuel handled a BLM case abysmally doesn't mean the Democrats as a whole are lying about their desire to achieve progress on this issue.

[Badger]

I would 100% cosign MacArthurs post. Nothing absurd about it whatsoever.

The suggestion that the only solution to police brutality is to vote to re-elect the same Democratic mayors who have proven themselves at best feckless and at worst actively complicit in the brutal treatment of protesters is... questionable.

Or the same Democratic DAs who let these corrupt pigs off the hook. Or the "Democrats" who endorse the Republican DA candidates for being "tough on crime".

Or the people who unironically lift one of those Democratic mayors up as the future of the party. With all this happening, I'd probably be on your side of the #BernieOrBust debate if he won.

His post is focusing I believe mostly on the necessity of removing Trump from the White House and neutering Republican power at the federal level. Don't forget the how the Minneapolis Police Union cheap spoke at a trump rally a couple years ago extolling how he got the holder / Lynch regime at the Attorney General's office off their backs and unhandcuffed the cops. You can draw a direct line to that level of laser Fair Pro police brutality supervision at the federal level to Trump being president.

Frankly, find me a single Republican in the country who replacing a Democratic mayor with would improve the situation of police brutality in any community in this country. The fact that there are bona fide better choices how to make in primary elections to get rid of ineffectual suck-ups like de Blasio - - God, what a disappointment - - doesn't make his post wrong in the slightest.

Can we please not ignore how conservatives and Republicans with all too rare exception have stood by the " well, what happened to George Floyd was bad, but LAW AND ORDER AGAINST ANTIFA" tack cracking down on protesters?

No, his point that voting green or some other third party Canada, I'm not voting at all to get Trump out of office because your butt sore over some crime Bill he voted for in the f****** 90s makes you pretty goddamn useless in doing anything worth a damn about the issue police brutality Beyond useless virtue signaling.

[Donerail]

His post is focusing I believe mostly on the necessity of removing Trump from the White House and neutering Republican power at the federal level. Don't forget the how the Minneapolis Police Union cheap spoke at a trump rally a couple years ago extolling how he got the holder / Lynch regime at the Attorney General's office off their backs and unhandcuffed the cops. You can draw a direct line to that level of laser Fair Pro police brutality supervision at the federal level to Trump being president.

Frankly, find me a single Republican in the country who replacing a Democratic mayor with would improve the situation of police brutality in any community in this country. The fact that there are bona fide better choices how to make in primary elections to get rid of ineffectual suck-ups like de Blasio - - God, what a disappointment - - doesn't make his post wrong in the slightest.

Don't put words in his mouth — he said that you should vote "straight Democrat all the way down your ballot." He explicitly said he did not mean just voting for Biden or for federal Democrats.

[GeneralMacArthur]

If you don't like your Democratic mayor, primary them with a different mayor.  I fully support a primary challenge to the big fat idiot de Blasio.

But even the idiot is going to be better for police reform than Donald Trump Jr. or whatever Trump supporter Republican would replace him.  The Democratic party is the only political party interested in working on this issue.  You vote Republican you're just voting for someone who's gonna rubber-stamp Trump's agenda, as we've seen time and again.

Besides, even if de Blasio is an idiot, you need the cooperation of mayors and local officials to get change done.  Remember Obamacare?  If we have some voluntary reform program where you need buy-in from mayors and governors, you're much more likely to get it from de Blasio than from a Republican.

[PSOL]

If you don't like your Democratic mayor, primary them with a different mayor.  I fully support a primary challenge to the big fat idiot de Blasio.

But even the idiot is going to be better for police reform than Donald Trump Jr. or whatever Trump supporter Republican would replace him.  The Democratic party is the only political party interested in working on this issue.  You vote Republican you're just voting for someone who's gonna rubber-stamp Trump's agenda, as we've seen time and again.

Besides, even if de Blasio is an idiot, you need the cooperation of mayors and local officials to get change done.  Remember Obamacare?  If we have some voluntary reform program where you need buy-in from mayors and governors, you're much more likely to get it from de Blasio than from a Republican.

Most Democratic mayors are cowards when dealing with the Cops. They say they want reform, but when push comes to shove they don’t act on it outside of majority black cities with majority black councilors. Mayors like Bloomberg, Deblasio, Buttigieg, Ted Wheeler, and the mayor of Minneapolis are the norm not the exception. And any chance at primarying them fails as those candidates usually have the most $$$ allocated to them by the top donors who don’t want even progressive mayors to disturb their businesses.

Same restrictions also applies to the vast majority of other parties who actually would do something about Police Brutality. The Green Party, Libertarian Party, Alliance, ASP, and basically anything to the left of the Democratic Party are structurally barred from getting on the ballot period to act on meaningful reform. That’s why a lot of Left-Leaning groups and the Libertarian Party either immensely show signs of support to the protests or are actively on the front lines.

The rest I won’t even bother replying to. Unlike you, I’m not in the hierarchal position to have a lack of meaningful solidarity with the working class communities. I deal with the same fear and anger as the people now on the streets, and want meaningful reform, not lip service. So yeah, kindly keep your mouth shut, concern trolling won’t get you anywhere.