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« Reply #1600 on: September 28, 2018, 09:19:53 PM »

My opinion of Feinstein dropped throughout this . Even CNN said Republicans have a good point on that if she thought it was so important why didnt she send the letter over to the FBI in July, which is something she did anyway in September.




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« Reply #1601 on: September 28, 2018, 09:24:43 PM »

My opinion of Feinstein dropped throughout this . Even CNN said Republicans have a good point on that if she thought it was so important why didnt she send the letter over to the FBI in July, which is something she did anyway in September.

Of course, CNN is a television network and not a person, so it didn't say anything.  CNN still has dishonest Republicans on unfortunately and this was likely from one of them.
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« Reply #1602 on: September 28, 2018, 09:31:41 PM »

My opinion of Feinstein dropped throughout this . Even CNN said Republicans have a good point on that if she thought it was so important why didnt she send the letter over to the FBI in July, which is something she did anyway in September.

Of course, CNN is a television network and not a person, so it didn't say anything.  CNN still has dishonest Republicans on unfortunately and this was likely from one of them.


Nope it wasn’t any of their former Republican politicians or strategists who said that .


Tell me if Feinstein didn’t send the letter to FBI for confidentiality reasons in July , why did she send it to the FBI in September.
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« Reply #1603 on: September 28, 2018, 09:44:56 PM »

My opinion of Feinstein dropped throughout this . Even CNN said Republicans have a good point on that if she thought it was so important why didnt she send the letter over to the FBI in July, which is something she did anyway in September.

Of course, CNN is a television network and not a person, so it didn't say anything.  CNN still has dishonest Republicans on unfortunately and this was likely from one of them.


Nope it wasn’t any of their former Republican politicians or strategists who said that .


Tell me if Feinstein didn’t send the letter to FBI for confidentiality reasons in July , why did she send it to the FBI in September.


https://www.vox.com/2018/9/27/17912102/feinstein-christine-blasey-ford-letter-leak

Feinstein sent the letter to the FBI after the rumors started.  Dr Ford herself testified that she discussed the situation with some of her friends subsequent to sending the letter and believes that one of her friends reported this to the media.

The Republican attempt to smear Senator Feinstein and deflect that 'Kavanaugh is the real victim' based on this loony conspiracy is pathetic, but par for the course for this evil party these days.
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« Reply #1604 on: September 28, 2018, 09:50:54 PM »

Unless the FBI finds new info which implicates him this situation is more Broaddrick accusations on Clinton than any of Roy Moore accusations .
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« Reply #1605 on: September 28, 2018, 09:54:04 PM »

Unless the FBI finds new info which implicates him this situation is more Broaddrick accusations on Clinton than any of Roy Moore accusations .

Let's say that the FBI found the house where Ford said she was assaulted as well as the date of party and who were there, but no evidence that Ford was assaulted.

What does that mean for Kavanaugh?
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« Reply #1606 on: September 28, 2018, 09:55:48 PM »
« Edited: September 28, 2018, 09:59:00 PM by Old School Republican »

Unless the FBI finds new info which implicates him this situation is more Broaddrick accusations on Clinton than any of Roy Moore accusations .

Let's say that the FBI found the house where Ford said she was assaulted as well as the date of party and who were there, but no evidence that Ford was assaulted.

What does that mean for Kavanaugh?


Well if date of party doesn’t match up with what Kavanugh said ,that would be enough to deny him since he would have lied .
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« Reply #1607 on: September 28, 2018, 10:00:13 PM »

Unless the FBI finds new info which implicates him this situation is more Broaddrick accusations on Clinton than any of Roy Moore accusations .

Let's say that the FBI found the house where Ford said she was assaulted as well as the date of party and who were there, but no evidence that Ford was assaulted.

What does that mean for Kavanaugh?


Well if date of party doesn’t match up with what Kavanugh said ,that would be enough to deny him since he would have lied .


Couldn't he just say that he doesn't remember?
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« Reply #1608 on: September 28, 2018, 10:01:30 PM »

Unless the FBI finds new info which implicates him this situation is more Broaddrick accusations on Clinton than any of Roy Moore accusations .

Let's say that the FBI found the house where Ford said she was assaulted as well as the date of party and who were there, but no evidence that Ford was assaulted.

What does that mean for Kavanaugh?


Well if date of party doesn’t match up with what Kavanugh said ,that would be enough to deny him since he would have lied .


Couldn't he just say that he doesn't remember?

Well no because that is something he should have said during his testimony .


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« Reply #1609 on: September 28, 2018, 10:34:26 PM »

I'll leave this here:

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« Reply #1610 on: September 28, 2018, 10:39:22 PM »

On NBC nightly news they said a legal expert said that outburst isn’t necessarily disqualifying  .



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« Reply #1611 on: September 28, 2018, 10:40:22 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.
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« Reply #1612 on: September 28, 2018, 10:45:20 PM »

The fact that he argued not even a decade earlier that Presidents should be above the law is in and of itself disqualifying.
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« Reply #1613 on: September 28, 2018, 10:55:06 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.
First off Merrick Garland so kindly shove it and second Ford is not “the democrats” she is a person
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« Reply #1614 on: September 28, 2018, 10:55:34 PM »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.
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« Reply #1615 on: September 28, 2018, 10:56:01 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.

No, she was accused of rape by Dr Ford.
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« Reply #1616 on: September 28, 2018, 10:58:23 PM »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.

Dianne Feinstein did not 'release the bombshell' and there is no credible evidence that she timed the release.  Odd how you don't need any evidence to state that falsehood.
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« Reply #1617 on: September 28, 2018, 11:00:15 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.
First off Merrick Garland so kindly shove it and second Ford is not “the democrats” she is a person

I don't recall anyone accusing Merrick Garland of raping anyone.

Ford is not the one, allegedly anyway, who chose to make this accusation public. As far as we know, she intended it to be an anonymous tip. It was the Democrats' decision to believe the tip and run with it.

Indeed, no one with a modicum of honesty can really think the Democrats' questioning of Kavanaugh was that of people who sincerely just want to know the truth and have no particular axe to grind.
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« Reply #1618 on: September 28, 2018, 11:05:22 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.
First off Merrick Garland so kindly shove it and second Ford is not “the democrats” she is a person

I don't recall anyone accusing Merrick Garland of raping anyone.

Ford is not the one, allegedly anyway, who chose to make this accusation public. As far as we know, she intended it to be an anonymous tip. It was the Democrats' decision to believe the tip and run with it.

Indeed, no one with a modicum of honesty can really think the Democrats' questioning of Kavanaugh was that of people who sincerely just want to know the truth and have no particular axe to grind.

I suggest you 'know your song well before you start singing.'

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/27/17912102/feinstein-christine-blasey-ford-letter-leak
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« Reply #1619 on: September 28, 2018, 11:06:29 PM »
« Edited: September 28, 2018, 11:13:40 PM by Old School Republican »

New Frontier claims he is disappointed or angry at anyone who doesnt oppose Kavanaugh but the fact is he is also acting in a super-partisan way too by basically believing anyone who doesnt oppose Kavanaugh are only doing it cause they are very partisan or they dont care about sexual assault victims. The fact is that isnt true at all as while some blue posters and Republicans certainly are supporting Kavanaugh cause of the two reasons he claims I would say most on here are not.
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« Reply #1620 on: September 28, 2018, 11:07:12 PM »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.

Dianne Feinstein did not 'release the bombshell' and there is no credible evidence that she timed the release.  Odd how you don't need any evidence to state that falsehood.

She did not leak the letter, but she still announced she had received an anonymous complaint. I've read your article but it doesn't say what you claim it does. Feinstein announced she had received a complaint before either the letter or Ford's identity were known.
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« Reply #1621 on: September 28, 2018, 11:07:36 PM »

I'll leave this here:



The dude was accused of being a rapist on a party line divide. Nobody could stop himself from being angry at the accusing party for that.

I know, the argument then goes that he ought to be replaced as a nominee, since judges are supposed to be nonpartisan. To which the obvious retort is that Democrats should have thought about that before taking us down this road.
First off Merrick Garland so kindly shove it and second Ford is not “the democrats” she is a person

I don't recall anyone accusing Merrick Garland of raping anyone.

Ford is not the one, allegedly anyway, who chose to make this accusation public. As far as we know, she intended it to be an anonymous tip. It was the Democrats' decision to believe the tip and run with it.

Indeed, no one with a modicum of honesty can really think the Democrats' questioning of Kavanaugh was that of people who sincerely just want to know the truth and have no particular axe to grind.
No honestly what happened to him was worse. He literally was punished not for any failing he had personally or a bad ruling. He was punished simply because Obama picked him
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« Reply #1622 on: September 28, 2018, 11:08:29 PM »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.

Dianne Feinstein did not 'release the bombshell' and there is no credible evidence that she timed the release.  Odd how you don't need any evidence to state that falsehood.

She did not leak the letter, but she still announced she had received an anonymous complaint. I've read your article but it doesn't say what you claim it does. Feinstein announced she had received a complaint before either the letter or Ford's identity were known.

This exactly
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« Reply #1623 on: September 28, 2018, 11:13:29 PM »
« Edited: September 28, 2018, 11:23:51 PM by 136or142 »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.

Dianne Feinstein did not 'release the bombshell' and there is no credible evidence that she timed the release.  Odd how you don't need any evidence to state that falsehood.

She did not leak the letter, but she still announced she had received an anonymous complaint. I've read your article but it doesn't say what you claim it does. Feinstein announced she had received a complaint before either the letter or Ford's identity were known.

Except the rumors of the complaint had started to come out based on Dr Ford's friend speaking to the reporter.

She acknowledged that she had received a complaint after the rumors started, not before them. 
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« Reply #1624 on: September 28, 2018, 11:21:52 PM »

Anyway, there just isn't enough evidence to convince me Kavanaugh actually raped Ford. That IMO requires some corroboration at the very least, and probably something like a date and location. I think it was suggested somewhere in this thread that Kavanaugh doesn't have an alibi. How can he have an alibi? What, for the entire 1982 calendar year?

I'm sure this will be followed by arguments that rape claims from victims should be believed. But i don't see how we can simply take a claim as big as this on face value without more evidence, especially when it is made against a political figure.

Then comes the argument that we should at least wait to see what other information comes out. Not as ridiculous on its face; however, the fact that this allegation was sent to congress 6 weeks before we found out suggests it may be being used as a stall tactic. No doubt the Democrats have a fair point that a lifetime appointment should face scrutiny before being confirmed. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, I can't imagine they'd be singing the same tune. The same can be said for Sen. Feinstein's decision to wait until the very end of the hearings before releasing this kind of bombshell. No one is innocent of bad governance here, so I don't buy it.

Dianne Feinstein did not 'release the bombshell' and there is no credible evidence that she timed the release.  Odd how you don't need any evidence to state that falsehood.

She did not leak the letter, but she still announced she had received an anonymous complaint. I've read your article but it doesn't say what you claim it does. Feinstein announced she had received a complaint before either the letter or Ford's identity were known.

This exactly
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