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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: September 14, 2018, 02:29:20 PM »
C'mon Evers!
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 02:31:36 AM »
lol, all Walker has ever "survived" are two GOP wave years and a low-turnout recall
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2018, 12:34:33 AM »
Quote from: IceSpear on September 21, 2018, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: Secret Cavern Survivor on September 21, 2018, 02:31:36 AM
lol, all Walker has ever "survived" are two GOP wave years and a low-turnout recall

? The recall wasn't low turnout...

2.5K votes cast compared to 3.1K in the Presidential race just a few months later. And basically comparable to the 2.4K cast in 2014, one of the lowest-turnout midterms in history.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2018, 12:53:41 AM »
Huh, fair enough. I guess we just define "low-turnout" differently.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 07:46:07 PM »
Quote from: BlueFlapjack on September 30, 2018, 04:10:01 PM
Scott Walker said this will be his last term if he wins his third term.

"Just one more! I can stop whenever I want!"
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 12:59:13 AM »
Nice maps! Although really, the Mississippi Valley needs even more blue...
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 03:24:49 PM »
Quote from: BlueFlapjack on October 17, 2018, 12:43:49 PM
I can't wait until the next MU Law poll!

Their polling it again already? I'd rather see polling from a new firm.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 08:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Republicans for Nelson on October 18, 2018, 09:50:54 AM
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 18, 2018, 09:48:02 AM
This is notable:



Everyone tells me Walker has at least a 50% chance though because Trump won here with 47% of the bote

muh 3 elections in 4 years
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2018, 06:32:31 PM »
Quote from: BlueFlapjack on October 19, 2018, 05:17:49 PM
Ok. So, apparently Trump will be rallying with Vukmir, but Walker may not be present because Trump's aides thinks he should avoid Walker due to his low reelection prospects.

https://www.wisconsingazette.com/news/political/trump-to-stump-for-vukmir-but-not-walker/article_3d80296e-d3d3-11e8-8950-3fa6398e0682.html

AND Obama is coming to Milwaukee on Oct. 26. Can't wait to see him!

Wait, he doesn't want to campaign with Walker because he thinks he's gonna lose... But he still campaigns with Vukmir? Huh

I mean I know he's not very bright but COME ON.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2018, 03:04:51 AM »
Quote from: Xing on October 27, 2018, 08:52:18 PM
Democrats were overconfident in 2012 and 2014 about their chances of beating Walker, especially given the kind of year that 2014 was, but at least this year, they have polling to point to. While polling doesn't suggest that Walker is DOA, it does suggest that he's more likely to lose than not, and Democrats have reason to be cautiously optimistic here.

This.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 09:55:37 PM »
I've read somewhere that up to a quarter of registered voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties have been purged from the voter rolls. Is there any truth to that? This seems like an enormous figure.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 10:41:43 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 29, 2018, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Secret Cavern Survivor on October 29, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
I've read somewhere that up to a quarter of registered voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties have been purged from the voter rolls. Is there any truth to that? This seems like an enormous figure.

I think I might have a spreadsheet at work, but yeah that's pretty close to accurate. I'll see if I can find the numbers tomorrow.

.........this is INSANE.

Under what pretense were they removed? And how many of them would have been likely to vote if they hadn't been disenfranchised? Could they reapply for registration?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2018, 10:44:25 PM »
Quote from: Fremont Speaker ON Progressive on October 29, 2018, 10:43:01 PM
Quote from: Secret Cavern Survivor on October 29, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 29, 2018, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Secret Cavern Survivor on October 29, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
I've read somewhere that up to a quarter of registered voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties have been purged from the voter rolls. Is there any truth to that? This seems like an enormous figure.

I think I might have a spreadsheet at work, but yeah that's pretty close to accurate. I'll see if I can find the numbers tomorrow.

.........this is INSANE.

Under what pretense were they removed? And how many of them would have been likely to vote if they hadn't been disenfranchised? Could they reapply for registration?

Wisconsin has same-day registration, so that'll mitigate some of the blow at least.

Thank God.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2018, 11:28:37 PM »
Okay, so this isn't quite as alarming as it sounded to me. Good.

The solution to this would be to have a national voter registry that keeps track when you move to a different state, but of course Americans don't want that because something something BIG GUVMENT!!
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2018, 02:36:11 PM »

Seriously. They are undemocratic to the core.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2018, 05:43:14 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on November 19, 2018, 05:39:14 PM
Once the election results are made official on December 3rd, I'll be making some maps and looking into some of the precinct data.

Looking forward to that!
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2018, 10:41:37 PM »
Quote from: Virginiá on November 30, 2018, 02:52:40 PM
I really think we need to start increasing the vote requirements for lame duck sessions. Require 2/3 majority to pass things until the new legislature is seated, or seat new members immediately.

Lame duck sessions shouldn't exist. They're inherently undemocratic. There's no reason why elected officials can't be sworn in the day after results are certified.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2018, 10:42:17 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on November 30, 2018, 05:38:23 PM


Pretty sure that would be unconstitutional.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2018, 01:37:49 PM »
Quote from: Economic Centrist Pelosi on December 03, 2018, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Xing on December 03, 2018, 12:22:41 PM
Why not have county electoral colleges as well, and congressional district electoral colleges! People don't matter, acres matter! Seriously, how can anyone defend Republicans bashing (not just writing off, but bashing) huge swaths of Americans (California/New York, the large cities/urban areas of a state like Madison/Milwaukee), and then turning around and saying that the Democrats are the smug elitists who don't care about Americas? Obviously, a "state electoral college" would never become law, but the fact that this is what they're seriously trying to push is comically corrupt, and further evidence that the last thing these Republicans care about is the "will of the people."
Perhaps, this will force Dems to care more about than just urbanites.

Oh f**k off you prick. You're the worst disservice to the cause you pretend to care about.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2018, 09:35:39 PM »
F**k these people.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2018, 02:07:00 PM »
So which of these power grabs will be struck down? I'm pretty sure the AG stuff at least is unconstitutional.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2018, 02:26:20 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on December 05, 2018, 02:23:28 PM
Quote from: Secret Cavern Survivor on December 05, 2018, 02:07:00 PM
So which of these power grabs will be struck down? I'm pretty sure the AG stuff at least is unconstitutional.

It's up to the 4-3 conservative Supreme Court until at least 2020.

Are all the 4 conservatives complete and utter hacks, or could one or more of them actually rule based on, you know, what the State Constitution actually says?

And if the latter, how would they rule?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2018, 11:40:25 PM »
So Baldwin won a majority of districts?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2018, 01:58:37 PM »
The worst thing about these gerrymanders is that they don't look too bad to the untrained eye. You have to squint to see all the cities that they conveniently cracked or packed.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2018, 11:38:11 PM »
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP ENGAGING WITH AN OBVIOUS TROLL
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