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« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2018, 01:46:28 PM »
« edited: July 25, 2018, 01:51:48 PM by 1-Term Donnelly »

Don't write Walker's obituary yet. He's at 42/50 approval, according to Morning Consult. So, despite all the scandals, he's still within -10. This is the recall election all over again. His devout fandom in WOW will pull through in the end.  

https://morningconsult.com/2018/07/25/americas-most-and-least-popular-governors-2/
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« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2018, 03:18:37 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
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« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
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« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2018, 07:31:29 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
If the Dems run on an old school labor message, they have a chance of ousting Walker.  If they run a boilerplate campaign that sounds like something the national party would create, Walker will win again.
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« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2018, 07:36:43 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
If the Dems run on an old school labor message, they have a chance of ousting Walker.  If they run a boilerplate campaign that sounds like something the national party would create, Walker will win again.


Just saying Mills and Tony Evers arent the charismatic candidate like Whitmer and Grisham are.
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« Reply #180 on: July 25, 2018, 08:06:15 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
If the Dems run on an old school labor message, they have a chance of ousting Walker.  If they run a boilerplate campaign that sounds like something the national party would create, Walker will win again.


Just saying Mills and Tony Evers arent the charismatic candidate like Whitmer and Grisham are.

Bingo. Evers is a terrible candidate, and if he is the nominee, this race will be difficult.
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« Reply #181 on: July 25, 2018, 08:56:02 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
If the Dems run on an old school labor message, they have a chance of ousting Walker.  If they run a boilerplate campaign that sounds like something the national party would create, Walker will win again.


Just saying Mills and Tony Evers arent the charismatic candidate like Whitmer and Grisham are.
It's the Rust Belt.  You don't need charismatic and sexy to win.

Mark Dayton, Terry Branstad, Pat Quinn, Ted Strickland, and Jennifer Granholm are prime examples of that.
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« Reply #182 on: July 25, 2018, 08:59:16 PM »

How come Janet Mills isnt leading in polls, otherwise they would poll the state already and she isnt charismatic, either. Its one factor, not the factor
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« Reply #183 on: July 25, 2018, 09:37:45 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.

Uh.... Wisconsin Democrats have won two State Senate special elections, and won the recent Supreme Court race in a walk... you guys are clueless.
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« Reply #184 on: July 25, 2018, 09:39:37 PM »

Walker can withstand the Democratic wave, since Milwaukee and Madison don't have many Latinos as other states might have. That's a reason why, Trump did so well in MI, PA and WI. But more WWC in WI.
100x yep. 2018 DNC (and supporting arms) has no clue how to win states outside the coastal bubbles.
If the Dems run on an old school labor message, they have a chance of ousting Walker.  If they run a boilerplate campaign that sounds like something the national party would create, Walker will win again.


Just saying Mills and Tony Evers arent the charismatic candidate like Whitmer and Grisham are.
It's the Rust Belt.  You don't need charismatic and sexy to win.

Mark Dayton, Terry Branstad, Pat Quinn, Ted Strickland, and Jennifer Granholm are prime examples of that.


Granholm is pretty charismatic. Just watch some of her tipsy DNC speeches.
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« Reply #185 on: July 25, 2018, 10:06:26 PM »

Guys, I dont think charisma will matter that much in the race. Walker has the charisma of a brick, a very good looking brick though, so literally anything will do.

What matters more is how well Evers can connect with voters, and how energized he can make them. His position as Superintendent helps him focus on education issues, and he has been at many rallies and events.

This is coming from someone supporting Mitchell.
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« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2018, 07:02:44 AM »

Ratings still has it Lean R. I have followed Walker most of the time living in IL, Milwaukee and Madison dont have the Chicago, Dtw and Philly Democratic machine. I say dont be surpise if the Moody or Walker win over less charismatic candidates Mills and Evers
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« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2018, 08:20:17 AM »

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« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2018, 08:50:52 AM »



Interesting to see the divide. Which one is more progressive overall? Are there major differences between the candidates' platforms?
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« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2018, 09:20:19 AM »

To be fair, politicians pose for pictures with people they don't know and have barely spoken to all the time.

Case in point:



Who would have known?
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« Reply #190 on: July 26, 2018, 10:44:43 AM »



Interesting to see the divide. Which one is more progressive overall? Are there major differences between the candidates' platforms?

No, it's more about identity and certain niches that they all fill. Roys comes off as a #Resistance mommy white woman candidate, with little other specialized appeal. Mitchell is a young, charismatic African-American, but he's also the leader of a firefighter's union. He's probably my 2nd-favorite candidate in the primary.

That said, I doubt these endorsements will do much. They will in all likelihood fail to get about 6% and Evers should dispatch with them easily.
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« Reply #191 on: July 26, 2018, 03:47:58 PM »



Interesting to see the divide. Which one is more progressive overall? Are there major differences between the candidates' platforms?
I think mcmikk put it best, but there are some other important differences.

Mitchell is much more socialist in nature, and has focused his campaign on fighting for Unions and workers. Mitchell's appeal is centered around the rural regions, and can win back the WWC, and Driftless region.
Roys is your #resistance white liberal who argues more for the social side of politics, and going against Trump. She can increase turnout in the major cities, and possibly make some cracks in WOW, though, IMO, she is the weaker candidate out of the big three.
Both are unlikely to win, as Evers has a solid route to victory, but its possible something can occur and one of the other candidates can take the prize.(I hope Mitchell wins)
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« Reply #192 on: July 26, 2018, 04:05:44 PM »

Walker trailing Evers by 13 in the NBC/WSJ poll.
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« Reply #193 on: July 26, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »

Walker trailing Evers by 13 in the NBC/WSJ poll.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/scott-walker-other-gop-candidates-key-midwest-states-trail-democratic-n895001
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« Reply #194 on: July 26, 2018, 05:57:33 PM »

...yeah, no. Walker is in good hands. He’s only 42/50 after so much threatening him.Unlike Trump, he is loved in WOW and can hold on to GOP gains in the rurals since the ‘08s. Must be some tabulation error somewhere that don’t exist in the Michigan/Minnesota polls.
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« Reply #195 on: July 26, 2018, 06:24:11 PM »

...yeah, no. Walker is in good hands. He’s only 42/50 after so much threatening him.Unlike Trump, he is loved in WOW and can hold on to GOP gains in the rurals since the ‘08s. Must be some tabulation error somewhere that don’t exist in the Michigan/Minnesota polls.
This is pretty pathetic Hofoid, even for you. You even bother to mention that his approval is -8.
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« Reply #196 on: July 26, 2018, 07:35:26 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2018, 07:42:31 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

Guys, I dont think charisma will matter that much in the race. Walker has the charisma of a brick, a very good looking brick though, so literally anything will do.

What matters more is how well Evers can connect with voters, and how energized he can make them. His position as Superintendent helps him focus on education issues, and he has been at many rallies and events.

This is coming from someone supporting Mitchell.

Really? I know beauty is subjective but he looks like a lookdown fish to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookdown
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« Reply #197 on: July 26, 2018, 07:40:54 PM »

Guys, I dont think charisma will matter that much in the race. Walker has the charisma of a brick, a very good looking brick though, so literally anything will do.

What matters more is how well Evers can connect with voters, and how energized he can make them. His position as Superintendent helps him focus on education issues, and he has been at many rallies and events.

This is coming from someone supporting Mitchell.

Really? I know beauty is subjective but he looks like a look down fish to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookdown
Hes not attractive, but he is rather good looking.


Of course, this is at his most photgenic, he also looks like this

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« Reply #198 on: July 26, 2018, 07:44:34 PM »

I don't expect many to agree with me, but I think Roys is kind of hot.
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« Reply #199 on: July 26, 2018, 11:19:35 PM »

Too bad for Walker, he's toast
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