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« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2020, 11:14:55 PM »

I'm too lazy to make maps but I'll just give my timeline with current EC totals.

2020 - Joe Biden defeats Donald Trump 325-213

2024 - Kamala Harris defeats Ted Cruz 277-261

2028 - Kamala Harris defeats Josh Hawley 365-173

2032 - Matt Gaetz defeats Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 287-251

2036 - Ayanna Pressley defeats Matt Gaetz 368-170

2040 - Ayanna Pressley defeats Elise Stefanik 397-141

My general theory: With a dominant Joe win in a few weeks - America will start to undergo a massive leftward shift. With changing demographics, dying boomers, and changing social values, the GOP is in for a few decades of hurt. Around 2032 or so, as I have, the Dems try to go a little bit too far left, and lose a close election. However, the Democrats quickly recover, and the Sanders/Establishment wings of the parties end their clash around 2036 or so - uniting around a balanced candidate like Rep. Pressley - to dominate American politics for decades to come.

Trump really f****d this party over.
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« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2020, 01:39:14 AM »

2020:


Joe Biden/Kamala Harris 413 EV
Donald Trump/Mike Pence 125 EV

2024:



Kamala Harris/Mark Kelly 315 EV
Ted Cruz/Pat Toomey 223 EV

2028:

Kamala Harris/Mark Kelly 303 EV
John James/Nikki Haley 235 EV

2032:


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Ayanna Pressley 273 EV
Justin Amash/Mike Lee 265 EV

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Ayanna Pressley 269 EV
Moderate Northeastern Governor/Conservative Southern Senator 269 EV

The House selects the Moderate Northeastern Governor, the Senate selects Pressley

2040:

Ayanna Pressley/Western Senator 449 EV
Incumbent Moderate President/Conservative Midwest Representative 89 EV
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« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2020, 01:40:13 AM »

I'm too lazy to make maps but I'll just give my timeline with current EC totals.

2020 - Joe Biden defeats Donald Trump 325-213

2024 - Kamala Harris defeats Ted Cruz 277-261

2028 - Kamala Harris defeats Josh Hawley 365-173

2032 - Matt Gaetz defeats Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 287-251

2036 - Ayanna Pressley defeats Matt Gaetz 368-170

2040 - Ayanna Pressley defeats Elise Stefanik 397-141

My general theory: With a dominant Joe win in a few weeks - America will start to undergo a massive leftward shift. With changing demographics, dying boomers, and changing social values, the GOP is in for a few decades of hurt. Around 2032 or so, as I have, the Dems try to go a little bit too far left, and lose a close election. However, the Democrats quickly recover, and the Sanders/Establishment wings of the parties end their clash around 2036 or so - uniting around a balanced candidate like Rep. Pressley - to dominate American politics for decades to come.

Trump really f****d this party over.

Democrats winning 7/9 elections between 2008 and 2040 would be a goddamn dream
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2021, 03:01:24 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2021, 01:23:33 PM by bidenwins! »

2024:
Vice President Kamala Harris vs. Vice President Mike Pence
PV 52-47



2028
President Kamala Harris vs. UN Ambassador Nikki Haley
Pv 51-48



2032:
Vice President Pete Buttigeig vs. Representative Josh Hawley
PV 50-48



2036
President Pete Buttigeig vs. Representative Michelle Fischbach
PV 49-50
(269-269, Fischbach chosen.)



2040:
Senator Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez vs. Senator of North Carolina
PV 51-50

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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2021, 03:17:30 PM »

2024:
Kamala defeats Pence. Map looks similar to 2020, give or take a couple states.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/x4lx7

2028:
Kamala wins reelection over Cotton. Texas finally flips.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/DzDY3

2032:
A relatively moderate Republican from the Northeast or Midwest does very well in those regions, while also doing well in the Sunbelt thanks to a great performance with Hispanics.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/PZA3k

2036:
This Republican gets reelected in a landslide, even managing to win California.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/yORgv

2040:
A Democrat from the South makes a breakthrough there. The Republican sweeps the Midwest and wins most of the Northeast (minus NY, MA and MD), but it is not enough.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/1mrYN

2044:
This Democrat wins a landslide, taking much the Midwest. New England, outside of Massachusetts, has trended significantly Republican.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/73JYW
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« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2022, 03:29:46 AM »

2024

President Joe Biden (D-DE) / Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) ✓
Fmr. President Donald Trump (R-FL) / Senator Tim Scott (R-SC)

Instability and insecurity continue, with a global recession in 2023, gridlock and dysfunction in congress, and a war of attrition in Ukraine with an accompanying rise in food and energy costs still dragging on by 2024. Trump defeats DeSantis in the primaries and loses the general.

2028

Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) / Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg (D-IN)
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) / Fmr. Governor Glenn Youngkin (R-VA) ✓

Feeding off the chaos, anti-government protests, uprisings, and armed rebellions break out around the world. There is a coup in Russia, followed by multiparty elections and a dramatic unraveling started by Chechnya's secession. Iran has a civil war with botched American-led intervention. There is another surge of migrants from Latin America, which Senator Hawley capitalizes on in his attempt to rebrand the party after 2024's fight between nationalist and neoliberal Republicans. Facing waning enthusiasm, Democrats lose a close one.

2032


China experiences a slowdown around this time caused by accelerated decoupling with Western economies, the fall of Russia, an aging population, and the bursting of a global tech bubble (cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and the metaverse prove to be the nuclear-powered vacuum cleaners of their time, the gimmicks of tech monopolies trying to surpass the limits of capital that can be extracted from society's relationship with technology). However, the post-Xi Communist Party veers dramatically to the left and begins to challenge the US much more in proxy wars around the world. Hawley fumbles, struggling with a new Pink Tide in Latin America and "losing Peru" to a China-backed government. Progressive Senator Ruben Gallego excites a fledgling labor movement with social and economic reforms and public works projects to address climate change and the malaise in the long struggling American economy.

2036


The post-neoliberal soul-searching of the 2010s and 2020s is over. The government has a more active role in the economy, and sustainability is the zeitgeist. A network of transmission lines to widely distribute wind and solar power is under construction, but land acquisitions are in limbo and rallying Republican opposition. Climate migration and the arrival of an idealistic generation of Climate Corps workers flip the Gulf states. Republicans run a Hawleyist who loses handily.

2040

There are cracks in the Democrats' big tent, and even more climate refugees from South Asia and Central Africa, but Democrat policies remain popular enough for the incumbent VP to win. Republicans push hard in perma-Purple Texas but also make some breakthroughs in the Northeast.

2044

The US loses the War in Uzbekistan. A more moderate Republican wins, still pushing the envelope of communitarianism that Hawley emphasized, but primarily criticizing the Democrats' response to antibiotic-resistant pandemics and highlighting the coastal cities and communities that lay abandoned despite investment in bulkheads and seawalls, jumping on the blue-green infrastructure and biotech bandwagons. Nativists remain a big part of the coalition, but a muffled one as they were pre-2010: by this point, voting blocs are a lot fuzzier with the country being majority-minority and more mixed race.
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« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2022, 09:19:56 PM »

Out of curiosity, why did Alaska/Kansas never flip? Ruben Gallego’s coalition seems perfect for a growing Alaska due to climate change forcing some people away from the mainland US. Some lower parts of Anchorage have been flooded yet Fairbanks is growing and the oil is drying up. Kansas also seems like a future slam dunk for democrats based on Kansas City (obviously it’s a 2030/2040s flip).
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« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2022, 11:38:01 PM »
« Edited: November 22, 2022, 11:47:07 PM by Anthropogenic-Statism »

Out of curiosity, why did Alaska/Kansas never flip? Ruben Gallego’s coalition seems perfect for a growing Alaska due to climate change forcing some people away from the mainland US. Some lower parts of Anchorage have been flooded yet Fairbanks is growing and the oil is drying up. Kansas also seems like a future slam dunk for democrats based on Kansas City (obviously it’s a 2030/2040s flip).

I went back and forth on those two for a while, especially Kansas, but I think there's a strong enough Republican adaptation to the post-Reaganite paradigm and reaction to immigration to keep them afloat there. "Hawleyism" provides a Republican answer to Democrat programs. Conversely, Gallego's Green New Deal platform sees a strong reaction from oil workers in Alaska, while the "land grabs" required for the transmission line projects, wind farms, and high speed rail see a strong reaction from the Plains. As the Ogalla Aquifer dries up in the 2030s, Republican influencers push conspiracy theories about Democrats wanting to turn the whole region into the Buffalo Commons, with residents of course thrown into FEMA camps and forced to use neopronouns.

On Alaska's growth, the state does benefit somewhat from increasing geopolitical and economic interest in the Arctic and the opening of the Northwest Passage, but equally, ocean acidification hurts commercial fishing in a big way, the oil industry takes a hit from a shift to renewables and carbon pricing, and many remote Alaska Native villages disappear with their livelihoods of subsistence hunting, fishing, and gathering made impossible by climate change. As for Kansas, most Southern climate migrants are still crowding into closer Southern cities in the 2040s, and aren't likely to be driven out of the region outright for a few decades. By that point, they would probably go to a Great Lakes or Northeast revitalized by reshored micromanufacturing, not the Plains. And, a simpler answer, Republicans just get stronger in the cities too. Not to mention, for Kansas, that there would be an isolationist reaction to the proxy wars with China.

They definitely get closer though!
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« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2022, 12:50:42 AM »

Welp, it's been over 4 years since my last prediction, so here's a prediction if 2024 is a rematch:

2024:

President Joe Biden / Vice President Kamala Harris
Fmr. President Donald Trump / Governor Kristi Noem

2028:

Fmr. Governor Glenn Youngkin / Senator Tim Scott
President Kamala Harris* / Vice President Roy Cooper
*= President Biden resigns due to Health issues in November 2026

2032:



Sun Belt Governor / Rust Belt Senator
President Glenn Youngkin / Vice President Tim Scott



Incumbent President / Incumbent VP
Rust Belt Governor / Southern Senator

2040:


Incumbent VP / Sunbelt Senator
Sunbelt Senator / Rustbelt Congressman


2044:

Moderate Sunbelt Governor / Moderate Sunbelt Senator
Incumbent President / Incumbent VP

Bonus. 2048:



Incumbent President / Incumbent VP
Sunbelt Senator / West Coast Governor







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« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2022, 09:36:22 PM »

2024

President Joe Biden (D-DE) / Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) - 303 EV / 52% PV
Fmr. President Donald Trump (R-FL) / Mrs. Kari Lake (R-AZ) - 235 EV / 47% PV

The Republicans, against all common sense, have nominated Trump for a third time. He doubles down on election denial and other unpopular MAGA policies. The economy mostly recovers by 2024, and House Republicans mostly focus on Hunter Biden's laptop instead of demonstrating a clear agenda. Biden wins with the exact same electoral map as 2020 and a slightly larger popular vote margin.



2028

President Kamala Harris (D-CA) / Governor Josh Shapiro (D-PA) - 255 EV / 49% PV
Fmr. Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL) / Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) - 283 EV / 50% PV

Biden resigns in 2026 after suffering a stroke, making Kamala Harris the first woman to ever be President of the United States. Though she hopes that the incumbency advantage and decent economy will help her, the fatigue of eight years of a Democrat in the White House (and actually 16 out of the last 20 years) sets in combined with Harris' relative unpopularity paves with way for a DeSantis victory. DeSantis' decision to sit out in 2024 and let Trump embarrass himself proves to be a smart decision, and he becomes the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years, although he only won it by just under 1%.



2032

From here on out, we don't know what the electoral vote distribution will be. The only 'fair' thing to do would be to continue the current allocation, since anything else would be speculation subject to bias.



Governor Bee Nguyen (D-GA) / Senator Ben Ray Luján (D-NM) - 345 EV / 51% PV
President Ron DeSantis / Vice President Tim Scott - 193 EV / 48% PV



2036



President Bee Nguyen (D-GA) / Vice President Ben Ray Luján (D-NM) - 270 EV / 49% PV
Republican Candidate (R-?? / Republican Candidate (R-??) - 268 EV / 50% PV

Nguyen wins narrowly re-election due to a good economy and a competent response to the Social Security Crisis and Chinese invasion of Taiwan. But Republicans were able to put up a good fight by emphasizing the rising crime rate and surge of illegal immigration. 

This is the first time that the Republicans have won the popular vote and lost the electoral college.



2040



Democratic Candidate (D-??) / Democratic Candidate (D-??) - 249 EV / 50% PV
Republican Candidate (R-??) / Republican Candidate (R-??) - 289 EV / 48% PV

For the second time in a row, and the fourth time in 40 years, there is a split between the winner of the electoral college and the popular vote. Because of this, there is speculation that enough states will sign on to the NPVIC, ending this nonsense.
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« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2022, 11:31:51 PM »

2040

There are cracks in the Democrats' big tent, and even more climate refugees from South Asia and Central Africa, but Democrat policies remain popular enough for the incumbent VP to win. Republicans push hard in perma-Purple Texas but also make some breakthroughs in the Northeast...

...Nativists remain a big part of the [R] coalition, but a muffled one as they were pre-2010: by this point, voting blocs are a lot fuzzier with the country being majority-minority and more mixed race.

I wonder where in the US said subcontinental and Sub-Saharan refugees would be most likely to settle and what if any electoral impact they'd have.



2036



President Bee Nguyen (D-GA) / Vice President Ben Ray Luján (D-NM) - 270 EV / 49% PV
Republican Candidate (R-?? / Republican Candidate (R-??) - 268 EV / 50% PV

Nguyen wins narrowly re-election due to a good economy and a competent response to the Social Security Crisis and Chinese invasion of Taiwan. But Republicans were able to put up a good fight by emphasizing the rising crime rate and surge of illegal immigration.  

This is the first time that the Republicans have won the popular vote and lost the electoral college.

Not sure if this would be the most probable map in a split PV-EC scenario but what a based Governor Bee Nguyen timeline. Weird that Dems do better in the PV in 2040 despite both NV and VA flipping R.


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« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2022, 05:29:05 AM »

I wonder where in the US said subcontinental and Sub-Saharan refugees would be most likely to settle and what if any electoral impact they'd have.

For the near future, most likely the states where immigrants are going now, which for more than half of the five million new immigrants since 2010 has been Florida, Texas, California, Washington, and New Jersey.
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« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2022, 12:23:07 AM »
« Edited: December 01, 2022, 12:35:49 AM by TodayJunior »

2024
The Republicans just can't shake Donald Trump and so he wins the nomination. Picks IA gov Kim Reynolds. However, things economically have largely improved, Covid is a non-issue, and everyone is just tired of Trump. Biden wins the NPV by 9% a la 1996 winning Indy's by 25% and getting significant cross-over support from mainline Republicans who want to "teach 'em a lesson". it's a blood bath. Dems recapture the House, hold the Senate thanks to the top of the ticket.


2028
Republicans, after licking their wounds from the 2024 bloodbath decide to go with Florida Man #2 this round (DeSantis); Biden's approval rating has largely improved into the low-50's. Harris wins the nomination a la Gore-2000 after fighting off a few challenges from the left flank. Also, just like 2000, DeSantis ends up winning nationally 49/48 but loses the EC due to AZ (the reverse Florida-2000), and goes to Harris by 300 votes after 1 month of Maricopa County yet again botching an election. immediate calls from the right ironially to remove the EC, but are squashed by more cooler heads in the Senate. Now they realize how Dems felt after the 2000 debacle.


2032 - took a stab at reapportionment (who knows?)
After three consecutive losses, the GOP finally moderates (at least for saving face); just like 1992, it's the economy stupid - recession in late 2031 into mid-2032. A progressive challenges from the left, loses, but there is a minor third party that siphons off some votes from Dems. She loses to a moderate western-governor 45/48/7


2036 - Lombardo re-elected


2040- Dems win with this map.
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« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2022, 07:56:57 AM »

Amazing how perception can be radically altered in a short period of time.

The vast majority of 2020 prediction, right up until E-day, would have left Georgia for the GOP. In just 2 months, the paradigm was turned on its head: now, going by the (great) maps below, nobody is betting against Georgia staying Atlas red for the next decade.

Surely the possibility of such a sudden reversal in popular wisdom should encourage bolder predictions here for 2024-28 (looking at Alaska, N Carolina, Texas for Dems // Maine or Hampshire for GOP).
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« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2022, 02:01:23 PM »

2024
The Republicans just can't shake Donald Trump and so he wins the nomination. Picks IA gov Kim Reynolds. However, things economically have largely improved, Covid is a non-issue, and everyone is just tired of Trump. Biden wins the NPV by 9% a la 1996 winning Indy's by 25% and getting significant cross-over support from mainline Republicans who want to "teach 'em a lesson". it's a blood bath. Dems recapture the House, hold the Senate thanks to the top of the ticket.


2028
Republicans, after licking their wounds from the 2024 bloodbath decide to go with Florida Man #2 this round (DeSantis); Biden's approval rating has largely improved into the low-50's. Harris wins the nomination a la Gore-2000 after fighting off a few challenges from the left flank. Also, just like 2000, DeSantis ends up winning nationally 49/48 but loses the EC due to AZ (the reverse Florida-2000), and goes to Harris by 300 votes after 1 month of Maricopa County yet again botching an election. immediate calls from the right ironially to remove the EC, but are squashed by more cooler heads in the Senate. Now they realize how Dems felt after the 2000 debacle.


2032 - took a stab at reapportionment (who knows?)
After three consecutive losses, the GOP finally moderates (at least for saving face); just like 1992, it's the economy stupid - recession in late 2031 into mid-2032. A progressive challenges from the left, loses, but there is a minor third party that siphons off some votes from Dems. She loses to a moderate western-governor 45/48/7


2036 - Lombardo re-elected


2040- Dems win with this map.
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« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2022, 05:07:24 PM »

2024
The Republicans just can't shake Donald Trump and so he wins the nomination. Picks IA gov Kim Reynolds. However, things economically have largely improved, Covid is a non-issue, and everyone is just tired of Trump. Biden wins the NPV by 9% a la 1996 winning Indy's by 25% and getting significant cross-over support from mainline Republicans who want to "teach 'em a lesson". it's a blood bath. Dems recapture the House, hold the Senate thanks to the top of the ticket.


2028
Republicans, after licking their wounds from the 2024 bloodbath decide to go with Florida Man #2 this round (DeSantis); Biden's approval rating has largely improved into the low-50's. Harris wins the nomination a la Gore-2000 after fighting off a few challenges from the left flank. Also, just like 2000, DeSantis ends up winning nationally 49/48 but loses the EC due to AZ (the reverse Florida-2000), and goes to Harris by 300 votes after 1 month of Maricopa County yet again botching an election. immediate calls from the right ironially to remove the EC, but are squashed by more cooler heads in the Senate. Now they realize how Dems felt after the 2000 debacle.


2032 - took a stab at reapportionment (who knows?)
After three consecutive losses, the GOP finally moderates (at least for saving face); just like 1992, it's the economy stupid - recession in late 2031 into mid-2032. A progressive challenges from the left, loses, but there is a minor third party that siphons off some votes from Dems. She loses to a moderate western-governor 45/48/7


2036 - Lombardo re-elected


2040- Dems win with this map.
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Why exactly did you go with Joe Lombardo of all people?

No reason other than he was the only R to defeat a D incumbent in a very hotly contested swing state in 2022 that hasn’t gone R since 2004. He wasn’t an election denier to my knowledge, but he was also endorsed by trump so perhaps that’s a bridge that’s crossable for a broader general electorate? You could pick someone else though.
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2022, 10:33:08 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2022, 12:27:10 PM »

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« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2022, 04:45:48 PM »

Lol. Lmao
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« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2022, 09:40:05 AM »


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« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2022, 01:35:08 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2022, 01:44:16 PM by ShadowRocket »

2024

President Joe Biden (D-DE) / Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) ✓
Fmr. President Donald Trump (R-FL) / Senator Tim Scott (R-SC)

Instability and insecurity continue, with a global recession in 2023, gridlock and dysfunction in congress, and a war of attrition in Ukraine with an accompanying rise in food and energy costs still dragging on by 2024. Trump defeats DeSantis in the primaries and loses the general.

2028

Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) / Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg (D-IN)
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) / Fmr. Governor Glenn Youngkin (R-VA) ✓

Feeding off the chaos, anti-government protests, uprisings, and armed rebellions break out around the world. There is a coup in Russia, followed by multiparty elections and a dramatic unraveling started by Chechnya's secession. Iran has a civil war with botched American-led intervention. There is another surge of migrants from Latin America, which Senator Hawley capitalizes on in his attempt to rebrand the party after 2024's fight between nationalist and neoliberal Republicans. Facing waning enthusiasm, Democrats lose a close one.

2032


China experiences a slowdown around this time caused by accelerated decoupling with Western economies, the fall of Russia, an aging population, and the bursting of a global tech bubble (cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and the metaverse prove to be the nuclear-powered vacuum cleaners of their time, the gimmicks of tech monopolies trying to surpass the limits of capital that can be extracted from society's relationship with technology). However, the post-Xi Communist Party veers dramatically to the left and begins to challenge the US much more in proxy wars around the world. Hawley fumbles, struggling with a new Pink Tide in Latin America and "losing Peru" to a China-backed government. Progressive Senator Ruben Gallego excites a fledgling labor movement with social and economic reforms and public works projects to address climate change and the malaise in the long struggling American economy.

2036


The post-neoliberal soul-searching of the 2010s and 2020s is over. The government has a more active role in the economy, and sustainability is the zeitgeist. A network of transmission lines to widely distribute wind and solar power is under construction, but land acquisitions are in limbo and rallying Republican opposition. Climate migration and the arrival of an idealistic generation of Climate Corps workers flip the Gulf states. Republicans run a Hawleyist who loses handily.

2040

There are cracks in the Democrats' big tent, and even more climate refugees from South Asia and Central Africa, but Democrat policies remain popular enough for the incumbent VP to win. Republicans push hard in perma-Purple Texas but also make some breakthroughs in the Northeast.

2044

The US loses the War in Uzbekistan. A more moderate Republican wins, still pushing the envelope of communitarianism that Hawley emphasized, but primarily criticizing the Democrats' response to antibiotic-resistant pandemics and highlighting the coastal cities and communities that lay abandoned despite investment in bulkheads and seawalls, jumping on the blue-green infrastructure and biotech bandwagons. Nativists remain a big part of the coalition, but a muffled one as they were pre-2010: by this point, voting blocs are a lot fuzzier with the country being majority-minority and more mixed race.

I thought I'd throw a specific name into this which is Elissa Slotkin is elected as the first woman President in 2040 after being elected Senator in 2030 to replace Debbie Stabenow and then being elected VP in 2032.

Reading this, I think she would provide a good balance to Gallego as she's a woman, from the Midwest, and being from the more moderate wing of the party.  Plus a Gallego/Slotkin ticket would signal generational change ala Clinton/Gore in '92.

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« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2022, 08:38:53 PM »

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I'd still prefer Kamala beating Ronny D in 2024 but seeing her win in 2028 without being an incumbent is pretty heartening. Funny how Kamala wins the EC by even more than Dark Brandon does in 2024, who still does better in his reelection bid than against Don Giovanni.
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« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2022, 08:44:46 PM »

I thought I'd throw a specific name into this which is Elissa Slotkin is elected as the first woman President in 2040 after being elected Senator in 2030 to replace Debbie Stabenow and then being elected VP in 2032.

Reading this, I think she would provide a good balance to Gallego as she's a woman, from the Midwest, and being from the more moderate wing of the party.  Plus a Gallego/Slotkin ticket would signal generational change ala Clinton/Gore in '92.

I could totally see that! Was kinda picturing someone currently obscure with a similar profile to Gretchen Whitmer for the same reasons.
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« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2022, 07:31:28 PM »

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I'd still prefer Kamala beating Ronny D in 2024 but seeing her win in 2028 without being an incumbent is pretty heartening. Funny how Kamala wins the EC by even more than Dark Brandon does in 2024, who still does better in his reelection bid than against Don Giovanni.

Harris' win comes from Democrats finally breaking through in Texas (extremely narrowly) and also narrowly winning North Carolina. DeSantis narrowly loses North Carolina and then Cotton loses it by a bit of a larger margin, but the state remains competitive overall. Texas with Republican rurals largely maxed out and the RGV being pretty unpopulated doesn't really have too many places where Republicans can increase their vote share to compensate for losing votes in the major urban counties. I expect Michigan+Pennsylvania to remain competitive as long term as there is no particular dynamic pushing either state strongly in one direction. Wisconsin would be similar, but the problem is if Wisconsin rurals start voting like PA rurals (not at all impossible imo), there isn't really many places for Democrats to fall back on, unless Dane starts voting like 90% D, which I don't view as too likely.
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« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2022, 10:57:58 PM »

I thought I'd throw a specific name into this which is Elissa Slotkin is elected as the first woman President in 2040 after being elected Senator in 2030 to replace Debbie Stabenow and then being elected VP in 2032.

Reading this, I think she would provide a good balance to Gallego as she's a woman, from the Midwest, and being from the more moderate wing of the party.  Plus a Gallego/Slotkin ticket would signal generational change ala Clinton/Gore in '92.

I could totally see that! Was kinda picturing someone currently obscure with a similar profile to Gretchen Whitmer for the same reasons.

She has struck me as someone who could have a bright future ahead. At the very least, I think she is the frontrunner for whichever one of the MI Senate seats opens up first.
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