Kavanaugh accused of sexually assaulting classmate in high school

[Alabama_Indy10]

I don't think it right to tar and feather someone for something that they did of this genre when age 17, decades later. The problem is a matter of Kavanaugh's candor now however. And the rule of evidence here should be more likely than not, not beyond a reasonable doubt. It seems that if this nomination moves forward (because K claims it is all a tissue of lies), then it looks like we will have full fledged hearings on this under oath (because the accuser's lawyer says that she is ready and willing to do that). I think that is essential at this point. Anita Hill all over again. It should be great for TV ratings. I suspect the odds are more than insignificant that the nomination will be withdrawn. We shall see.

If his nomination is rescinded, the GOP will get crucified at the polls by the base.

Once again.. Why? If the nomination is rescinded, Trump will nominate another conservative and they will be motivated to go and vote so that person can be confirmed. I see no reason whatsoever that the GOP will be “crucified” if Kavanaugh’s nomination is withdrawn.

[J. J.]

Ford has contributed to Democratic candidates, though not a large amount, and her parent's appeared before Kavanaugh's mother, who is also a judge(in the mid-1990's).  Either or both of these things could make Ford biased.

It doesn't mean that any of these people are biased, or that any are lying, but it does lower the value of their direct statements.

Yes, it lowers the value of her direct statement about being sexually assaulted by a very small amount, to an extent not even worth bothering with if not grasping at straws.

It may be a lot more than that. 

I would not take the position that because someone says something happened 35 years ago, it happened.  I would not take the position that because someone did not occur 35 years ago, that it occurred. 

We also have a problem that the notes from 2012 give a different account than the current one; maybe that can be explained. 

[brucejoel99]

Ford has contributed to Democratic candidates, though not a large amount, and her parent's appeared before Kavanaugh's mother, who is also a judge(in the mid-1990's).  Either or both of these things could make Ford biased.

It doesn't mean that any of these people are biased, or that any are lying, but it does lower the value of their direct statements.

Yes, it lowers the value of her direct statement about being sexually assaulted by a very small amount, to an extent not even worth bothering with if not grasping at straws.

It may be a lot more than that. 

I would not take the position that because someone says something happened 35 years ago, it happened.  I would not take the position that because someone did not occur 35 years ago, that it occurred. 

We also have a problem that the notes from 2012 give a different account than the current one; maybe that can be explained. 

It has been: the notes say 4 boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist's part. Ford said there were 4 boys at the party but only 2 in the room.

[Mette Frederiksen Stan]

Don Jr. really is vile:

Family of sociopaths.

[Jumped off the American Sinking Ship]

FF

https://twitter.com/PhilBredesen/status/1041691934270660614

Oof, somebody get the Senate some ice for that sick burn!

inb4 someone says this will hurt Bredesen

even though he's completely right

[Virginiá]

Donald Jr must be mistaking real life for an internet forum

[J. J.]

Ford has contributed to Democratic candidates, though not a large amount, and her parent's appeared before Kavanaugh's mother, who is also a judge(in the mid-1990's).  Either or both of these things could make Ford biased.

It doesn't mean that any of these people are biased, or that any are lying, but it does lower the value of their direct statements.

Yes, it lowers the value of her direct statement about being sexually assaulted by a very small amount, to an extent not even worth bothering with if not grasping at straws.

It may be a lot more than that. 

I would not take the position that because someone says something happened 35 years ago, it happened.  I would not take the position that because someone did not occur 35 years ago, that it occurred. 

We also have a problem that the notes from 2012 give a different account than the current one; maybe that can be explained. 

It has been: the notes say 4 boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist's part. Ford said there were 4 boys at the party but only 2 in the room.

Still, the notes from the therapist do not match what Ford is claiming.  That weakens the notes as evidence. 

Was she the only female at the party?

[Torie]

Donald Jr must be mistaking real life for an internet forum

You made me laugh Virginia. Thank you. I have not been laughing much lately.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

It's not normal for a therapist to write the name of the alleged attempted rapist in their notes.

[Devout Centrist]

Don Jr. really is vile:

Hey, don’t make fun of the mentally handicapped. Don, Jr. just has trouble showing women his affection.

[J. J.]

It's not normal for a therapist to write the name of the alleged attempted rapist in their notes. [/size]

You might be right, but the account recorded in the notes does not match her current account.  Ford said it was a transcription error; it may be. It could be an account of a different incident. It could be a shifting story. We just don't know.

We can state that she spoke, in 1212, to her therapist, about an assault that happened when she was in high school.

[fluffypanther19]

good god this thread and overall controversy is a total clusterf@ck. lets just have a proper investigation and get this over with

[libertpaulian]

Donnelly has stated that there should be NO confirmation vote until this is thoroughly investigated.

[7,052,770]

IIRC there's a supreme court tradition where all justices often shake hands with each other as a show of civility.

I wonder if the female justices will refuse to shake Kavanaugh'shand if conformed.

[Brittain33]

Rapin Brett

srsly?

[Don't blame me I voted for Harris]

Senator Roy Blunt has said they should delay the hearing.

[Suburbia]

Kavanaugh should withdraw.

Kethledge, Tharpur would be better choices.

[Sestak]

Roy Blunt has said they should delay the hearing.

WHAT.

[Doimper]

Roy Blunt has said they should delay the hearing.

excellent, excellent

[elcorazon]

Kavanaugh will withdraw before most of you build your Sukkah

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

If Roy Blunt is calling for the vote to be delayed, then it's over for Kavanaugh.

[The Night Owlditor]

Senator Roy Blunt has said they should delay the hearing.

Wow, Roy Blunt actually does something right for a change!

[DrScholl]

The chances of Kavanaugh withdrawing for the nomination are increasing.

[Sic Semper Fascistis]

Source on Blunt?

[Brittain33]

Source on Blunt?

Talking Points Memo quoting KC Star