Would a war against serfdom have ever been justified?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Well? Please state reasons.

[thumb21]

Yes. Its an unjust and deeply inhumane system that couldn't be solved non-violently.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Yes. Its an unjust and deeply inhumane system that couldn't be solved non-violently.

This. Rebellion in a republican state is usually odious; but if a people are held in bondage without recourse to political resolution of their grievances, and all peaceful alternatives have been exhausted, then war becomes an unfortunate necessity.

[Goldwater]

Any war is justified as long as you win.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Any war is justified as long as you win.

What's weird is to some extent, I agree with that philosophy, and I'm not proud of it. My mind goes on this track when someone brings up topics such as inhumane practices in our conduct of the Civil or Second World wars (though to some extent it gets termed as "historical necessity").

[Cassandra]

Any war is justified as long as you win.

By the victors, sure. Or are you arguing for total relativism here?

[Goldwater]

Any war is justified as long as you win.

By the victors, sure. Or are you arguing for total relativism here?

I suppose I would be, assuming my post was actually meant to be taken 100% sincerely.

[Cassandra]

Any war is justified as long as you win.

By the victors, sure. Or are you arguing for total relativism here?

I suppose I would be, assuming my post was actually meant to be taken 100% sincerely.

Yeah, I couldn't tell.

To respond to the OP, sure a war "against" Serfdom could be justified. Though typically, the way wars go, I don't know what state would actually be interested in fighting such a war. It's easier to imagine a liberal neighbor of 19th century Russia (say if Serfdom lingered past 1861), using the issue as cover for other interests.

In other words, I don't trust states and I can't find it in myself to get gung-ho about the idea of any war, including wars for supposedly noble reasons.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Hard to imagine a war against serfdom that would have not backfired. Serfs were suspicious of outsiders, so any rationale for an anti-serfdom war on part of foreigners could easily have been spun into a "defend the motherland" type war.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Hard to imagine a war against serfdom that would have not backfired. Serfs were suspicious of outsiders, so any rationale for an anti-serfdom war on part of foreigners could easily have been spun into a "defend the motherland" type war.

Imagine a few boyars rise up in revolt, responding to the emancipation of a few millions of serfs. How should the Tsar handle it?

[Yellowhammer]

Yes, and a war against modern-day soft serfdom (property taxes) would also be justified.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Hard to imagine a war against serfdom that would have not backfired. Serfs were suspicious of outsiders, so any rationale for an anti-serfdom war on part of foreigners could easily have been spun into a "defend the motherland" type war.

Imagine a few boyars rise up in revolt, responding to the emancipation of a few millions of serfs. How should the Tsar handle it?

If you are a foreign power, clandestine supplying of arms to the serfs, via intermediaries, to the serfs, is okay. Just cover your tracks.

[Cory]

The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived waged one in 1812 and everyone just knocks him for it these days.

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Do you mean like, a civil war or a peasants uprising, or a foreign intervention to oust the feudal society? Because I can think of one prominent intervention that was advertised by its proponents as a war against a feudalistic society: the Chinese intervention in Tibet. Which is not really an ideal model to emulate.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Do you mean like, a civil war or a peasants uprising, or a foreign intervention to oust the feudal society? Because I can think of one prominent intervention that was advertised by its proponents as a war against a feudalistic society: the Chinese intervention in Tibet. Which is not really an ideal model to emulate.

Open to interpretation, though “ever” indicates that even once would mean “yes”.