Trump's disgusting twitter rant on Puerto Rico

[Dr. Arch]

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

I have no doubt 3,000 people, or thereabouts, died.  Lots of people died.  Trump denying it as he does is pure politics, but if he admitted it, he'd be subject to the same barrage.

And the barrage may, or may not, be fair.  These deaths may be due to an inadequate FEMA response, but they may be due to the infrastructure problems Puerto Rico has had before Trump was elected.

Who's to blame, and what's to blame is needed to be discovered but mainly to ensure this doesn't happen again.  There are people who respond here mainly because they hope to make this Trump's Katrina.  And it may end up to be just that, but that is hardly clear at this point.

[Globalise Operation Rising Lion]

Narcissist fuzzy bear somehow managed to make this thread all about himself

[The DEI Hire]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

You are giving far, far, FAR too much credit to his intellect and restraint.

He absolutely is denying the number of deaths here.

BTW, your first sentence absolutely belongs in the irony ore mine.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

Reading really shouldn't be this difficult for you two. If he just said 3000 people did not die, then yes, the argument that he is denying their deaths would be accurate. But if you actually read the entire first sentence, he is obviously denying the cause of their deaths.

I get that Trump Derangement Syndrome has affected the both of you pretty hard, but you don't need to cherry pick the things he says to find something you don't like.

[Globalise Operation Rising Lion]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

You are giving far, far, FAR too much credit to his intellect and restraint.

He absolutely is denying the number of deaths here.

BTW, your first sentence absolutely belongs in the irony ore mine.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

Reading really shouldn't be this difficult for you two. If he just said 3000 people did not die, then yes, the argument that he is denying their deaths would be accurate. But if you actually read the entire first sentence, he is obviously denying the cause of their deaths.

I get that Trump Derangement Syndrome has affected the both of you pretty hard, but you don't need to cherry pick the things he says to find something you don't like.

’After I left the island they had 6 to 18 deaths, which did not go up by much. Later on they started to report 3000. This was done by democrats’.You are embarrassing yourself

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Understand this:  Your opinion of me has no effect on me.  None, whatsoever.  If this increases the fuming factor, so much the better.

Does anyone still has any questions about why a Good Christian like Fuzzy supports a dick like Trump?

Because he's a fake Christian like most evangelicals.

OK, I'll bite . . .

What does a real Christian look like?

[The DEI Hire]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

You are giving far, far, FAR too much credit to his intellect and restraint.

He absolutely is denying the number of deaths here.

BTW, your first sentence absolutely belongs in the irony ore mine.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

Reading really shouldn't be this difficult for you two. If he just said 3000 people did not die, then yes, the argument that he is denying their deaths would be accurate. But if you actually read the entire first sentence, he is obviously denying the cause of their deaths.

I get that Trump Derangement Syndrome has affected the both of you pretty hard, but you don't need to cherry pick the things he says to find something you don't like.

’After I left the island they had 6 to 18 deaths, which did not go up by much. Later on they started to report 3000. This was done by democrats’.You are embarrassing yourself

What part of me saying that I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers was too hard for you to understand?

Obviously his numbers were still wrong, but for a long time the recorded deaths per the Govt of Puerto Rico were reported at 64. It wasn't updated to almost 3000 until late August. If you actually look at the content of the tweets, it's incredibly obvious to anyone who reads at a normal adult level that he was denying the cause of the 3000 deaths because of how long after they were reported, not that they didn't die at all.

[ProudModerate2]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

That nonsense aside, people need to understand that trump brought all this upon himself. His Tweet is why people on both sides of the "isle" are responding to his lunacy.
If he just kept his f***ing mouth shut, none of this current backlash would be present.
But of course, the severe narcissistic sickness in him strikes again! And thus, the Orange Buffoon gets the whipping he deserves.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

You are giving far, far, FAR too much credit to his intellect and restraint.

He absolutely is denying the number of deaths here.

BTW, your first sentence absolutely belongs in the irony ore mine.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

"3000 people did not die" "3000 people did not die" "3000 did not die"

Reading really shouldn't be this difficult for you two. If he just said 3000 people did not die, then yes, the argument that he is denying their deaths would be accurate. But if you actually read the entire first sentence, he is obviously denying the cause of their deaths.

I get that Trump Derangement Syndrome has affected the both of you pretty hard, but you don't need to cherry pick the things he says to find something you don't like.

’After I left the island they had 6 to 18 deaths, which did not go up by much. Later on they started to report 3000. This was done by democrats’.You are embarrassing yourself

What part of me saying that I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers was too hard for you to understand?

Obviously his numbers were still wrong, but for a long time the recorded deaths per the Govt of Puerto Rico were reported at 64. It wasn't updated to almost 3000 until late August. If you actually look at the content of the tweets, it's incredibly obvious to anyone who reads at a normal adult level that he was denying the cause of the 3000 deaths because of how long after they were reported, not that they didn't die at all.

These people aren't interested in a serious discussion of public policy.  They want to find a quick, easy way to pin 3k deaths on Trump in order to see their candidate win and their party prevail.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

Oops!  I did it again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow

[Badger]

This Thread makes me lose hope for Humanity. And democracy.

[Yellowhammer]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

In your mind, everyone who disagrees with you is a "barbaric Nazi cultist" or some variation, so you're in no position to judge peoples' "pompousness." Fhatgn is being much more reasonable than you are.

[Badger]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

In your mind, everyone who disagrees with you is a "barbaric Nazi cultist" or some variation, so you're in no position to judge peoples' "pompousness." Fhatgn is being much more reasonable than you are.

Not really. It is a grotesque misreading of Trump's tweet. He is denying deaths of other Americans based on Raw partisan ship and rampant narcissism.

What the f*** is so difficult for people to 100%, or at least 99%, agree that this is top-to-bottom reprehensible?!?

[ProudModerate2]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

In your mind, everyone who disagrees with you is a "barbaric Nazi cultist" or some variation, so you're in no position to judge peoples' "pompousness." Fhatgn is being much more reasonable than you are.

No not everyone. Just certain cultists from Alabama.

[Beet]

Puerto Rico is never going to be Trump's Katrina because, for better or worse, San Juan isn't seen as an American city the way New Orleans is. If you say "New Orleans" to the average man or woman on the street, they immediately think of Louisiana, Mardi Gras, Andrew Jackson, Huey Long, Tulane, Fats Domino, and so on. If you say "San Juan" they go... "Wuhhh?? That hill Teddy Roosevelt charged up??"

[The DEI Hire]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

That nonsense aside, people need to understand that trump brought all this upon himself. His Tweet is why people on both sides of the "isle" are responding to his lunacy.
If he just kept his f***ing mouth shut, none of this current backlash would be present.
But of course, the severe narcissistic sickness in him strikes again! And thus, the Orange Buffoon gets the whipping he deserves.

Are you actually going to post a valid response on this thread, or are you just going to continue acting like an arrogant, obsessed fool?

[Badger]

Puerto Rico is never going to be Trump's Katrina because, for better or worse, San Juan isn't seen as an American city the way New Orleans is. If you say "New Orleans" to the average man or woman on the street, they immediately think of Louisiana, Mardi Gras, Andrew Jackson, Huey Long, Tulane, Fats Domino, and so on. If you say "San Juan" they go... "Wuhhh?? That hill Teddy Roosevelt charged up??"

Sadly true.

[DrScholl]

I'm surprised he didn't go as far as to say that Democrats murdered those thousands of people to make him look bad.

[ProudModerate2]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

In your mind, everyone who disagrees with you is a "barbaric Nazi cultist" or some variation, so you're in no position to judge peoples' "pompousness." Fhatgn is being much more reasonable than you are.

Not really. It is a grotesque misreading of Trump's tweet. He is denying deaths of other Americans based on Raw partisan ship and rampant narcissism.

What the f*** is so difficult for people to 100%, or at least 99%, agree that this is top-to-bottom reprehensible?!?

And what others are not taking into consideration is that trump is on video tape recently saying things like "We did a fantastic job in Puerto Rico..." and "An incredible, unsung success."
Why would anyone, yet alone the POTUS, say something like this after 3,000 deaths?
The Orange Moron "is missing a human screw," and has zero empathy towards normal life/death situations.

Related video of "trump missing a human screw" here: https://www.cnsnews.com/video/cnn-panel-criticizes-trumps-uber-inappropriate-behavior-911-its-hes-missing-human-screw

[ProudModerate2]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

That nonsense aside, people need to understand that trump brought all this upon himself. His Tweet is why people on both sides of the "isle" are responding to his lunacy.
If he just kept his f***ing mouth shut, none of this current backlash would be present.
But of course, the severe narcissistic sickness in him strikes again! And thus, the Orange Buffoon gets the whipping he deserves.

Are you actually going to post a valid response on this thread, or are you just going to continue acting like an arrogant, obsessed fool?

Well if you would only read the facts throughout this entire thread "at a normal adult level," then your high-flown, bloated head wouldn't get in the way of comprehending the elementary information presented to you.

[The DEI Hire]

Seems like fhtagn is up to posting more of her conceited and pompous responses again. You should all know by now that her posts and words are All-Mighty and Superior.

In your mind, everyone who disagrees with you is a "barbaric Nazi cultist" or some variation, so you're in no position to judge peoples' "pompousness." Fhatgn is being much more reasonable than you are.

Not really. It is a grotesque misreading of Trump's tweet. He is denying deaths of other Americans based on Raw partisan ship and rampant narcissism.

What the f*** is so difficult for people to 100%, or at least 99%, agree that this is top-to-bottom reprehensible?!?

And what others are not taking into consideration is that trump is on video tape recently saying things like "We did a fantastic job in Puerto Rico..." and "An incredible, unsung success."
Why would anyone, yet alone the POTUS, say something like this after 3,000 deaths?
The Orange Moron "is missing a human screw," and has zero empathy towards normal life/death situations.

Related video of "trump missing a human screw" here: https://www.cnsnews.com/video/cnn-panel-criticizes-trumps-uber-inappropriate-behavior-911-its-hes-missing-human-screw

Saying he is denying the deaths of 3000 people is a grotesque misreading of his tweet. It's literally cherry picking what you want to read rather than what he actually wrote.

Like I said, I don't approve with how the administration handled the situation post-Maria. I have family that was displaced, some that still are, and the ones still with their farms lost much of their crops in the hurricane. He is dumb when it comes to the numbers he's using in his tweet, he is dumb to blame the numbers on the Democrats, and he is dumb to claim that his administration's response to Maria was a success. But it is fair for him to question the actual cause of their deaths given the long gap that the Govt of Puerto Rico left jumping from 64 to almost 3000 and the fact that the island has suffered with substandard infrastructure for a long time.

[Koharu]

These numbers didn't just appear. If one followed the story in the months after Maria hit, it was well known that there were more than 64 deaths. It was just so many and many lost people that the number was almost impossible to quantify. Thus this report from George Washington University. Yes, it's a year after the fact, but in such a chaotic situation where residents are still facing unreliable power access, it's not at all surprising.

If you want to pretend this number came from nowhere, don't act like you're informed on the topic. If you want to pretend to be informed, go actually inform yourself via the many (ignored) articles from Puerto Rico over the last year.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Trump must've actually struck a nerve because the blue avatars are really REALLy working hard to try and control the narrative in this thread.

It took quite a long time to find out how many died in Katrina.  Puerto Rico was devastation on a much bigger scale with poorer infrastructure.  Places went months without electricity or adequate access to clean water.  It is not hard to grasp that a territory with 2.5 times as many people as NOLA could see 3 times as many deaths directly or indirectly caused by the hurricane.

But no... defend Trump.  He was right to minimize the suffering and grief of Puerto Ricans, politicize it, and then blame the Democrats for a conspiracy.  You guys are right.  And so reasonable, too!  

[Cassandra]

We need a french revolution.

Yes, bring back the Guillotines. Separate enough heads from their necks and we might just find ourselves an American Napoleon.

[The DEI Hire]

These numbers didn't just appear. If one followed the story in the months after Maria hit, it was well known that there were more than 64 deaths. It was just so many and many lost people that the number was almost impossible to quantify. Thus this report from George Washington University. Yes, it's a year after the fact, but in such a chaotic situation where residents are still facing unreliable power access, it's not at all surprising.

If you want to pretend this number came from nowhere, don't act like you're informed on the topic. If you want to pretend to be informed, go actually inform yourself via the many (ignored) articles from Puerto Rico over the last year.

I never said that the numbers just appeared out of nowhere. Nor did I say I relied on just the 64 that the Govt of Puerto Rico reported, but if he's basing it on official reports, or for anyone who based it on official reports, then of course the number is going to be surprising and they'll question how those people actually died.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Everything is a conspiracy with this president.

Everything is fake.

Except him. Ironically, he is probably the fakest person ever.
Seriously, why did he have to say this!? Even if he does genuinely believe this (which he probably does because he's delusional) he couldn't just keep this to himself and let the media cycle not focus on him for once? He had more to gain by shutting the f*** up for once and letting the hurricane be covered without giving us his worthless two cents based on complete misinformation that, with the help of yet another manufactured conspiracy theory, hand-waves the deaths of Americans and shirks any and all responsibility or guilt that he should be feeling over deaths that definitely did happen! F*** this guy so much! I get more and more embarrassed every day to have this man as our President! And that doesn't seem like it will stop.