Trump's disgusting twitter rant on Puerto Rico

[ProudModerate2]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

Trump isn’t just trying to duck blame for these deaths. He’s literally claiming that they did not die.

Exactly.
mencken's pitiful attempt to deflect the topic, and make it about "infrastructure" is disgusting when we are dealing with the denial (from the president) of peoples' deaths.

[mencken]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

Trump isn’t just trying to duck blame for these deaths. He’s literally claiming that they did not die.

No, he is claiming they did not die in the hurricanes (source: read his tweet for crying out loud, do you people even read?). They presumably died due to the poor conditions that a hurricane superimposed on third-world infrastructure caused in the weeks and months after the hurricane.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

In truth, this was, and is, necessary.  A "Marshall Plan" for Puerto Rico in terms of new infrastructure that can withstand regular hurricanes.

That seems like more a state (commonwealth?) and local responsibility than a federal one.

They're not a state, and they're economically in bad straits.

The Federal Government will step in because it's the "least worst way" to fix the problems here.

Your faith in the Federal Government to do the best thing is extremely optimistic.

[mencken]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

[mencken]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

In truth, this was, and is, necessary.  A "Marshall Plan" for Puerto Rico in terms of new infrastructure that can withstand regular hurricanes.

That seems like more a state (commonwealth?) and local responsibility than a federal one.

They're not a state, and they're economically in bad straits.

The Federal Government will step in because it's the "least worst way" to fix the problems here.

I'd rather just give them the independence that is long overdue. The second best option would be the plan you describe, so long as the politicians of Puerto Rico sign an affidavit accepting responsibility for their own straits and acknowledging that they are far too incompetent to govern themselves.

[ProudModerate2]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

In truth, this was, and is, necessary.  A "Marshall Plan" for Puerto Rico in terms of new infrastructure that can withstand regular hurricanes.

That seems like more a state (commonwealth?) and local responsibility than a federal one.

They're not a state, and they're economically in bad straits.

The Federal Government will step in because it's the "least worst way" to fix the problems here.

Your faith in the Federal Government to do the best thing is extremely optimistic.

There's no easy fix to this problem.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

[mencken]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

Precisely.

[Hammy]

There's so much diversion in this thread taking away from what Trump actually said. He did not simply shirk responsibility and say "hey, it's not my fault, look at all these reasons they're to blame" which is what someone who doesn't feel responsible would say. But is actually denying the death tally entirely which means he does feel responsible deep down and doesn't want to face the reality of it.

And as far as trying to blame the "third world infrastructure" let's have a Cat 3 hit your house and your city and then a Cat 5 a few weeks later and see what infrastructure is left.

[ProudModerate2]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

[ProudModerate2]

There's so much diversion in this thread taking away from what Trump actually said. He did not simply shirk responsibility and say "hey, it's not my fault, look at all these reasons they're to blame" which is what someone who doesn't feel responsible would say. But is actually denying the death tally entirely which means he does feel responsible deep down and doesn't want to face the reality of it.

"Precisely."
It seems that you and I noticed the same thing. My response above seems to mirror your post.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

Disgusting.

Disgusting!

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!!

Disgusting!!!!!

DISGUSTING!!!!!

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

[ProudModerate2]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

Disgusting.

Disgusting!

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!!

Disgusting!!!!!

DISGUSTING!!!!!

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

That is your response?
So when you have no defense to the Orange Clown's Tweet, you revert to that?
And then you have the gall to blame others in this forum for not responding "properly and professionally."

[Landslide Lyndon]

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

The story of your life.

[Badger]

Attention Florida Puerto Rican voters please do not pay attention to the crazy orange man,

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/status/1040265322270474242?ref_src=twsrc%5Et...

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1040256236204253184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7C...

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What's wrong with DeSantis, doesn't he know how to tweet?

When I first read Trump's tweet, my first second and third thoughts were one of horror, discussed, and contempt.

My immediate next thought was how many hours it would take Rick Scott to disown Trump's tweet.

[Doimper]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

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So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

Disgusting.

Disgusting!

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!!

Disgusting!!!!!

DISGUSTING!!!!!

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

You're a vile excuse for a human and should shut the hell up.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

You must be logged in to read this quote.

So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

Disgusting.

Disgusting!

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!!

Disgusting!!!!!

DISGUSTING!!!!!

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

That is your response?
So when you have no defense to the Orange Clown's Tweet, you revert to that?
And then you have the gall to blame others in this forum for not responding "properly and professionally."

To you, yes, this is my response.

To reasonable posters, I'll provide reasonable responses.

I can't imagine anyone taking you seriously in real life.

[Badger]

Good to know Trump is now responsible for Puerto Rico's horrific state of infrastructure circa 2017. Clearly he should have spent the first several months of his presidency undertaking a costly modernization of the island.

In truth, this was, and is, necessary.  A "Marshall Plan" for Puerto Rico in terms of new infrastructure that can withstand regular hurricanes.

That seems like more a state (commonwealth?) and local responsibility than a federal one.

President Trump blames increased death toll numbers on Democrats trying to make him look bad.

Normal people. WTF is wrong with him? He's actually trying to blame the other party for people dying because his own ego can't accept anything smelling of failure? What kind of monster is he? How can he possibly believe that the death toll reported is about him??

Fuzzy bear. Hmmmm. Seems legit and totally not the rantings of a crazy megalomaniac. Tiger should investigate forthwith!

Mencken. The president's response is a completely sane and rational response to the Puerto Rican territorial governments of the heck of a job brownie, er, Trump did in disaster relief here, which wasn't remotely mismanaged or taken off his goldfish like attention span for a minute!


Seriously. When I read this tweet, I thought to myself, gee, this is so subhuman and reprehensible that even The Usual Suspects couldn't rise to defend Trump over this. Could they?

The answer is, sadly, there's literally no bottom so low to which cultists won't stoop

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Some context for anyone unfamiliar with what happened:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Maria_death_toll_controversy

You must be logged in to read this quote.

So, ProudModerate, is GWU's study a pitiful and disgusting attempt to deflect the topic from Trump to "infrastructure failures"?

No one is saying that 3000 people died at the exact hour(s) that the hurricane went through the island. Catastrophes consistently include deaths of people who die as a result of an incident after the fact. People who died days later after the Las Vegas shooting count. People who died days later as a result of 9/11 count (some numbers include the deaths of many emergency workers who died months/years later from cancer and other severe health problems).
How could you and the Orange Doofus not know this?

I would argue that if this is your logic, most of those deaths are not the result of anything Trump or his government did or did not do; they were accidents waiting for a storm the size of Maria to happen.

Did Trump make things worse?  That's sort of a different question.  But Trump isn't responsible for the infrastructure issues Puerto Rico had at the time of Maria, and has had for some time.

That is NOT the topic of this thread.
Now you (like menchen) are attempting to change the main subject the OP has presented here (more deflection to hide the president's idiocy).
This thread is about trump denying that 3000 people died as a (direct and indirect) result of the hurricanes that went through Puerto Rico.
The Orange Tangerine's Tweet starts by saying "3000 people did not die." Go back and read the OP.
If you want to discuss whether trump, his administration, FEMA, etc is responsible, is a secondary topic altogether. The anger is that trump is denying that they died. Period.

Disgusting.

Disgusting!

Disgusting!!!

Disgusting!!!!

Disgusting!!!!!

DISGUSTING!!!!!

I'm sorry.  I just couldn't help myself.

You're a vile excuse for a human and should shut the hell up.

Sorry, but I'm not going to.

You signed off on this poster's ridicule of another poster.  I'm not going to shut up for the likes of you.  Ever.

ProudModerate2 has ridiculed other posters, and no one has come to their defense.  Now' he's getting a taste of what he dishes out.

And you're no better.  You come up with nothing but snark to people you disagree with.  The proper response to you would have been "I know you are, but what am I?".

Understand this:  Your opinion of me has no effect on me.  None, whatsoever.  If this increases the fuming factor, so much the better.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Understand this:  Your opinion of me has no effect on me.  None, whatsoever.  If this increases the fuming factor, so much the better.

Does anyone still has any questions about why a Good Christian like Fuzzy supports a dick like Trump?

[ProudModerate2]

To you, yes, this is my response.
To reasonable posters, I'll provide reasonable responses.
I can't imagine anyone taking you seriously in real life.

LOL.
Open your eyes and read the posts above. Many others (not just me) in Atlas see you as "vile human" and take your various posts and responses as evidence of the hate in your heart (even though you call yourself "a Christian").
We all take you seriously in real life, because we know s*** like you in our own communities ..... an abhorrent and dangerous individual we must live with.

[MasterJedi]

Understand this:  Your opinion of me has no effect on me.  None, whatsoever.  If this increases the fuming factor, so much the better.

Does anyone still has any questions about why a Good Christian like Fuzzy supports a dick like Trump?

Because he's a fake Christian like most evangelicals.

[The DEI Hire]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

[Badger]

Figures that folks like Doctor Imperialism and ProudModerate2 are continuing their providing nothing of value to the forum.

That nonsense aside, Trump and others who already pointed it out here weren't exactly wrong in that the large numbers of people who died weren't because of the hurricane, but rather horrible infrastructure that has always been a problem on the island. The hurricane just made that disaster in waiting happen sooner rather than later.

I don't agree with how the administration handled things post-Maria, and I don't agree with blaming the Democrats for the numbers, but he didn't deny their deaths, just the cause of their deaths.

You are giving far, far, FAR too much credit to his intellect and restraint.

He absolutely is denying the number of deaths here.

BTW, your first sentence absolutely belongs in the irony ore mine.