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IceSpear
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« on: September 05, 2018, 04:09:37 PM »

I guess driving through potholes while awkwardly talking about how much you love Trump was a decent strategy after all, lol.

Still a toss up though. There's a long way to go, and it's still Indiana.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2018, 04:11:40 PM »


Don't show RINO Tom those white college grad numbers or those suburban numbers.

That burbstomping number looks really unbelievable. Would Donnelly be winning Hamilton County with that margin?
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2018, 04:18:54 PM »

This is NBC/Marist, so I’m going to guess Donnelly +8.

Almost.

So much for Donnelly being much more vulnerable than McCaskill, though.

Both Donnelly and McCaskill have been under estimated before. At the end I think both finish fairly closely.

And IceSpear yes I do believe Donnelly could win over 60% in Hamilton County.

But several posters told me that Perfect Fit For The Suburbs™ Hillary Clinton already hit the Democratic ceiling in the suburbs, and that Trump (or ESPECIALLY a "normal" Republican) would do far better there even though basically every Republican candidate since 2016 has done worse than him in the suburbs, and sometimes significantly worse!
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2018, 04:35:39 PM »

This is NBC/Marist, so I’m going to guess Donnelly +8.

Almost.

So much for Donnelly being much more vulnerable than McCaskill, though.

Both Donnelly and McCaskill have been under estimated before. At the end I think both finish fairly closely.

And IceSpear yes I do believe Donnelly could win over 60% in Hamilton County.

But several posters told me that Perfect Fit For The Suburbs™ Hillary Clinton already hit the Democratic ceiling in the suburbs, and that Trump (or ESPECIALLY a "normal" Republican) would do far better there even though basically every Republican candidate since 2016 has done worse than him in the suburbs, and sometimes significantly worse!
Democrats have been over performing far more in rural areas than in suburbs.

Not really.

KS-04: Thompson kept it relatively close because he cleaned up in Wichita and the suburbs, even winning Sedgwick County. He got crushed in the rural areas.
MT-AL: Quist mostly ran up the score in what passes for urban/suburban areas in Montana like Missoula, Bozeman (Gallatin County), Helena (Lewis and Clark County), and Butte (Silver Bow County.) He still got curbstomped in the rural areas.
VA-Gov: Northam did even better than Clinton in NoVa which hardly anyone expected, while also making massive improvements in the Virginia Beach and Richmond suburbs. He did far worse than even McAuliffe in the rural areas.
AL-Sen: Moore actually did better in the rural areas than he did in 2012. He lost because he got burbstomped in the Birmingham/Mobile/Huntsville cities and their suburbs, along with the Black Belt. Look at the swing in Jefferson, Shelby, and Madison Counties.
PA-18: Lamb won because of the Pittsburbstomping in Allegheny County, he was still soundly rejected in Washington/Greene/Westmoreland Counties.
AZ-08: Dems got a massive swing in a heavily Republican district that consists entirely of Phoenix suburbs.
OH-12: Same story as PA-18 basically, with a slightly different ending. O'Connor dominated in suburban Columbus (Franklin County) and put in an amazing performance for a Democrat in suburban Delaware County. It wasn't quite enough to make up for the thumping he got in the rural areas of the district.

Really the only counter example and the reason the whole "suburbs are fools gold" narrative got started is because of GA-06, which is a pretty obvious outlier at this point.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2018, 04:52:50 PM »

Mystery poll tommorrow....maybe ND?



I'm hoping for Missouri or North Dakota. Please, not another FL poll showing a tie.

They just released a Missouri poll yesterday showing a tie, lol.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2018, 06:47:37 PM »

New Poll: Indiana Senator by Marist College on 2018-08-29

Summary: D: 49%, R: 43%, U: 8%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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IceSpear
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2018, 11:46:23 PM »



The question is, is it "dropping down target lists" solely due to overreaction to this poll (like the pundits, who sometimes overreact just as much as Atlas posters) or was this the case even before this poll was released? If it was the latter, you'd think these takes would've started coming out before this poll dropped, not after.
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