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IceSpear
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« on: September 04, 2018, 04:58:10 PM »

Tossup/Tilt D.

I said Gillum was fine, but all the concern trolls were like "DeSantis is going to win BIG! FBI investigation the next Watergate!" LOL at PNM and IceSpear saying he would be destroyed by one random investigation nobody cares about.

I find it pretty amusing you rate it as a toss up yet simultaneously find it so outrageously offensive that people would have the audacity to give Gillum 30% odds of winning, lol.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2018, 05:01:32 PM »

New Poll: Florida Governor by Quinnipiac University on 2018-09-03

Summary: D: 50%, R: 47%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2018, 05:13:19 PM »

Just wait until DeSantis and co start to release those attack ads, I am optimistic for Gillum, but the main campaign hasn't started yet

Whoa, don't go using too much logic here. Didn't you get the memo? The September 4th Quinnipiac poll has replaced the November election, and Gillum is now Gov-elect!

Just like how Scott's polling advantage wasn't all it was cracked up to be due to Nelson's campaign not getting off the ground until now, the same is true of this race. Gillum has yet to be targeted in a negative ad blitz. That'll change very soon. It could move the numbers, or it could not. We'll see.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM »

Just wait until DeSantis and co start to release those attack ads, I am optimistic for Gillum, but the main campaign hasn't started yet

Whoa, don't go using too much logic here. Didn't you get the memo? The September 4th Quinnipiac poll has replaced the November election, and Gillum is now Gov-elect!

Just like how Scott's polling advantage wasn't all it was cracked up to be due to Nelson's campaign not getting off the ground until now, the same is true of this race. Gillum has yet to be targeted in a negative ad blitz. That'll change very soon. It could move the numbers, or it could not. We'll see.

This is the correct take.
Its the "candidate quality only affects Ds and national environment isnt a thing" take.

Where did I say the political environment didn't matter? If this was a neutral year I'd see Gillum winning as a huge longshot, and if it was a Republican wave he'd be DOA.

And candidate quality clearly matters less for Rs than it does for Ds. Look at the incumbent president.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2018, 02:10:21 PM »

Uh, the only reason Scott didn’t win by double digits like the rest of the statewide ticket in 2010 and 2014 was because he was “scandaled.” My God the hackery  on this forum sometimes
I'm sorry you refuse to accept Gillum has yet to trail in a single poll where the national environment can only get better for Democrats because "MUH GILLUM UNELECTABLE".

Terri Lynn Land can't possibly do worse than she's doing now because the environment will only get better for Republicans. Safe R.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2018, 02:34:26 PM »

Uh, the only reason Scott didn’t win by double digits like the rest of the statewide ticket in 2010 and 2014 was because he was “scandaled.” My God the hackery  on this forum sometimes
I'm sorry you refuse to accept Gillum has yet to trail in a single poll where the national environment can only get better for Democrats because "MUH GILLUM UNELECTABLE".

Terri Lynn Land can't possibly do worse than she's doing now because the environment will only get better for Republicans. Safe R.
Lynn Land did not lead in every poll and Gillum is nowhere near that level of candidate. Still butthurt Gwen Graham lost, I see?

I didn't say he was. It was just a counter example.



And yes, I am still butthurt, thanks for asking. Wink
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2018, 03:50:12 PM »

Uh, the only reason Scott didn’t win by double digits like the rest of the statewide ticket in 2010 and 2014 was because he was “scandaled.” My God the hackery  on this forum sometimes
I'm sorry you refuse to accept Gillum has yet to trail in a single poll where the national environment can only get better for Democrats because "MUH GILLUM UNELECTABLE".

Terri Lynn Land can't possibly do worse than she's doing now because the environment will only get better for Republicans. Safe R.
Lynn Land did not lead in every poll and Gillum is nowhere near that level of candidate. Still butthurt Gwen Graham lost, I see?

I didn't say he was. It was just a counter example.



And yes, I am still butthurt, thanks for asking. Wink
those polls are from January and February, its currently September. This is a pretty bad example

Well yeah. There were also tons of undecideds. My point was that if you didn't look at other factors aside from current polling lead + probable political environment, one easily could've used that same line in early 2014 about that race.
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