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« on: August 24, 2018, 09:16:23 AM »

You can't blame George W. Bush

You can't blame Donald Trump

You can't blame Bruce Rauner

You can't blame Mark Kirk

The last Republican mayor of Chicago was William Hale Thompson in 1931.

If the Republicans are to blame for rural America's troubles,

Why can't the Democrats take responsibility for Chicago?

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 09:17:55 AM »

Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 09:36:28 AM »

Because Republican areas have worse troubles.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 09:47:59 AM »

Because Republican areas have worse troubles.

Summit, NJ and Anaheim, CA have worse troubles?

Those are hard core Republican areas and they're doing pretty fine.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 09:53:43 AM »

Rahm Emanuel and the state Democratic Party ought to take responsibility, just as Cuomo and his goons ought to take responsibility for the MTA.

On the other hand, Chicago has pleasant neighborhoods. There are multiple Republican-governed states for which the same cannot be said.

What Republican governed states have no "pleasant neighborhoods?"
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2018, 10:04:30 AM »

The problems you are probably referring to are mainly crime/gun violence, I presume?

Responsibility for that rests mainly on the shoulders of the Republican Party and the NRA for America's lax gun laws and on the Republican Party (with Democratic complicity) for launching and continuing the "war on drugs."
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2018, 10:08:07 AM »

If Democrats could take responsibility responsibility for anything, they wouldn’t be Democrats.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 10:12:34 AM »

Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 10:14:17 AM »

Rahm Emanuel and the state Democratic Party ought to take responsibility, just as Cuomo and his goons ought to take responsibility for the MTA.

On the other hand, Chicago has pleasant neighborhoods. There are multiple Republican-governed states for which the same cannot be said.

What Republican governed states have no "pleasant neighborhoods?"

Places that are nice only because you've priced out all of the poor people don't count.

You mean Republican governed states like NY and CA? Yea, that was snarky of me I know. I really don't understand your point, but I guess that is OK.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 10:16:12 AM »

The problems you are probably referring to are mainly crime/gun violence, I presume?

Responsibility for that rests mainly on the shoulders of the Republican Party and the NRA for America's lax gun laws and on the Republican Party (with Democratic complicity) for launching and continuing the "war on drugs."

ITT, I learned that Republican-backed gun policy is responsible for the gun violence in Chicago, LMAO.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 10:17:37 AM »

You mean the troubles like gun violence, which is dramatically exacerbated by illegal gun trafficking from Republican states like Indiana which have lax gun laws?

The problems you are probably referring to are mainly crime/gun violence, I presume?

Responsibility for that rests mainly on the shoulders of the Republican Party and the NRA for America's lax gun laws and on the Republican Party (with Democratic complicity) for launching and continuing the "war on drugs."

ITT, I learned that Republican-backed gun policy is responsible for the gun violence in Chicago, LMAO.
This but unironically
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 10:22:05 AM »

Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.

This is because of the relationship between the "war on drugs" and gun violence. Utah ranks 49th in drug use, apparently.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150/

Mormonism presumably has a positive impact on that.

So I would say that explains much of the difference in this respect between Utah and Chicago.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 10:25:22 AM »

Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.

This is because of the relationship between the "war on drugs" and gun violence. Utah ranks 49th in drug use, apparently.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150/

Mormonism presumably has a positive impact on that.

So I would say that explains much of the difference in this respect between Utah and Chicago.

Drug use is rampant in Missouri as well, but we import our drugs from Mexico and leave all the violence there, like civilized people.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2018, 10:30:02 AM »

Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.

This is because of the relationship between the "war on drugs" and gun violence. Utah ranks 49th in drug use, apparently.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150/

Mormonism presumably has a positive impact on that.

So I would say that explains much of the difference in this respect between Utah and Chicago.

Drug use is rampant in Missouri as well, but we import our drugs from Mexico and leave all the violence there, like civilized people.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2018, 10:34:01 AM »

Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.

This, and more importantly, outside the Chicago City Democratic apparatus, and MAYBE to a lesser degree the IL Democratic AND Republican parties, any problems the city of Chicago has has nothing to do with the US Democratic Party.

Idiots like bronz--and there are a lot--just hammer on about Chicago because it's Amway of attacking Obama's reasonably successful presidency by (weak ass) proxy.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2018, 10:46:07 AM »

Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.

This, and more importantly, outside the Chicago City Democratic apparatus, and MAYBE to a lesser degree the IL Democratic AND Republican parties, any problems the city of Chicago has has nothing to do with the US Democratic Party.

Idiots like bronz--and there are a lot--just hammer on about Chicago because it's Amway of attacking Obama's reasonably successful presidency by (weak ass) proxy.

I think this quite logical line of thinking should be used by you more.  For example, it should be quite obvious that the problems of Mississippi can't be thrown on the fact that Republicans control it, but that doesn't stop people from painting that picture.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2018, 10:55:04 AM »

I'm not surprised atlas republicans are semi-out of touch with chicago and gang violence but i'm definitely surprised atlas democrats are (kidding i know they are too).

Yall really did a number in this thread so sorry in advance for all the quotes.


Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.

You can make this argument about any city with issues. You blatantly ignoring the problems in the southside and westside is disgusting

The problems you are probably referring to are mainly crime/gun violence, I presume?

Responsibility for that rests mainly on the shoulders of the Republican Party and the NRA for America's lax gun laws and on the Republican Party (with Democratic complicity) for launching and continuing the "war on drugs."


Lax gun laws in other states isnt the problem. Gang violence and failed leadership is.


Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.

Utah doesnt have the same culture as Illinois. Additionally, no city in Utah had the same history with crime like Chicago. Utah doesn't even have a city with over a million people. Seriously dude?

Utah is a freedom state with proper gun laws. Of course the people of Utah do not insist on shooting each other.

This is because of the relationship between the "war on drugs" and gun violence. Utah ranks 49th in drug use, apparently.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150/

Mormonism presumably has a positive impact on that.

So I would say that explains much of the difference in this respect between Utah and Chicago.

Drug use is rampant in Missouri as well, but we import our drugs from Mexico and leave all the violence there, like civilized people.

St. Louis is one of the worst cities for african-american gang violence. wtf are you talking about





Yall are a disgusting bunch
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2018, 11:01:22 AM »

I'm not surprised atlas republicans are semi-out of touch with chicago and gang violence but i'm definitely surprised atlas democrats are (kidding i know they are too).

Yall really did a number in this thread so sorry in advance for all the quotes.


Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.

You can make this argument about any city with issues. You blatantly ignoring the problems in the southside and westside is disgusting


Say what you will, but flinging insults won't get anything of substance across; that's for sure. There are problems, sure, but most places have some issues of some sort somewhere. If you're looking for a perfect place, you're in for a rough and disgusting ride Wink.

I am not ignoring them, but I am underscoring that Chicago is not the war zone madhouse that politicians pretend it is. You're just perpetuating more of that with your post.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2018, 11:05:09 AM »

Idiots like bronz--and there are a lot--just hammer on about Chicago because it's Amway of attacking Obama's reasonably successful presidency by (weak ass) proxy.

Sad Come on dude. Just get a red avatar already.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2018, 11:07:08 AM »

Idiots like bronz--and there are a lot--just hammer on about Chicago because it's Amway of attacking Obama's reasonably successful presidency by (weak ass) proxy.

Sad Come on dude. Just get a red avatar already.

When you get a blue one. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2018, 11:18:59 AM »

Contrary to popular discourse for political expediency, Chicago is doing just fine. I recommend you visit the city before going on about it.

Yeah.

I mean the city has it's problems and they shouldn't be overlooked by any means.

But this pathetic whining about the city by outsiders who know nothing other than what they see from a headline is getting tiring.
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2018, 11:21:00 AM »

I'm just having fun responding to a ridiculous thread created by a zero marginal product poster.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2018, 11:33:28 AM »

Republicans love talking about Chicago but not NYC which is the safest big city in America and is controlled by Democrats and has a low homicide rate.

Also, New Orleans has the highest murder rate in the US per capita. New Orleans is in Louisiana and Louisiana is a Republican controlled state with lax gun laws. New Orleans also has NO control over it's gun laws, they have to abide by the same gun laws as rural Louisiana because state law doesn't allow for local municipalities to create gun laws stricter than state law.

Also, last year, 60% of the guns that were recovered by Chicago PD were not originally from the state of Illinois. With the highest percentage being from Indiana (19%), Indiana is a Republican controlled state with lax gun laws. Gun trafficking is a big problem in Chicago but the Chicago PD can't do anything because neighboring areas and states have much looser gun laws.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 11:43:18 AM »

Drug use is rampant in Missouri as well, but we import our drugs from Mexico and leave all the violence there, like civilized people.

St. Louis is one of the worst cities for african-american gang violence. wtf are you talking about

Decent, hardworking methheads shouldn’t be discriminated against just because black people shoot each other a lot
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2018, 11:47:45 AM »

Yet another bronz thread gets multiple pages. How often do you people touch burning stoves?
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