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« on: August 22, 2018, 11:27:39 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-safrica-usa-land/trump-says-has-asked-pompeo-to-look-at-south-african-land-seizures-farm-killings-idUSKCN1L808P

[quote]“I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and large scale killing of farmers,” Trump said in a post on Twitter.

Trump’s tweet appeared to be a response to a Fox News report on Wednesday that focused on South Africa’s land issue and murders of white farmers.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 11:39:52 PM »

Dunno what Pompeo would be “studying” here, Farm seizures are now
Official ANC policy
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2018, 12:52:42 AM »

Good.  Sanction South African officials and offer aslyum to the Boers.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 06:15:30 AM »

Is this intended to be a dig at him or something?
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2018, 06:14:45 PM »

I mean, good that he’s finally concerned about some human rights, even if it took white people being adversely affected for him to care.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2018, 06:16:17 PM »

I mean, good that he’s finally concerned about some human rights, even if it took white people being adversely affected for him to care.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2018, 06:32:02 PM »

I can see it now.
The US Embassy and Ambassador to South Africa, apologizing (behind the scenes, of course) to the government of S.A. for this ridiculous action by our president.
(And all because Orange Doofus saw some garbage story via Faux News channel. Uggggg!)
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 06:44:15 PM »

Discrimination in South Africa should not be tolerated today any more than it was in the 1980's, regardless of which groups it is directed against.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 06:51:25 PM »

I mean, good that he’s finally concerned about some human rights, even if it took white people being adversely affected for him to care.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2018, 07:00:42 PM »

Is this intended to be a dig at him or something?

Yes, because the narrative that whites are facing some sort of widespread violence in SA is a myth perpetuated by white nationalist groups on twitter. RTFA.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2018, 07:35:55 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2018, 07:42:41 PM by Paulite Hick »

The former president of SA, Jacob Zuma, inciting an ANC rally into a chant of “kill the Boer”:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FEq5nduxZCA
  
White land owners in SA aren’t safe in the long term. The SA government harbors an extreme level of hatred for the Boer minority.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2018, 09:04:37 PM »

Is this intended to be a dig at him or something?

Yes, because the narrative that whites are facing some sort of widespread violence in SA is a myth perpetuated by white nationalist groups on twitter. RTFA.

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Amazing that you would quote Malema who has also been quoted saying this:

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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2018/06/12/malema-we-have-not-called-for-the-killing-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2018, 09:35:11 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2018, 09:40:08 PM by cookiedamage »

Is this really happening or are y'all believing it at face value? Nobody thinks land seizures are okay but Nazis are using this country to push their "n***ers stealing land from whites and killing them" narrative. People aren't being genocided and land isn't being mass stolen, something white people did to the very people that now run South Africa.

And let's see how fast I'm accused of being a genocide and land theft apologist by the blue neo-nazis here.

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2018, 09:44:37 PM »

Is this really happening or are y'all believing it at face value? Nobody thinks land seizures are okay but Nazis are using this country to push their "n***ers stealing land from whites and killing them" narrative. People aren't being genocided and land isn't being mass stolen, something white people did to the very people that now run South Africa.

And let's see how fast I'm accused of being a genocide and land theft apologist by the blue neo-nazis here.

Bantu peoples aren't native to South Africa. The only people with a legitimate gripe over stolen land are the Khoi-San peoples, as they were persecuted by invading white people and Bantus over centuries. But my guess is they won't be the recipients of the confiscated land. In fact, many people of a Bantu background are very racist against the Khoi-San.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2018, 09:46:33 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2018, 09:47:08 PM »

Is this intended to be a dig at him or something?

Yes, because the narrative that whites are facing some sort of widespread violence in SA is a myth perpetuated by white nationalist groups on twitter. RTFA.

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Amazing that you would quote Malema who has also been quoted saying this:

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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2018/06/12/malema-we-have-not-called-for-the-killing-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/

Fair critique. I include Malema's quote because the article referenced that he was in favor of land confiscation, not because I really care about what he says about Trump. But you are right that Malema is in fact a bad actor.

The point of my post was that despite the grumblings of many that we're witnessing a "white genocide" in SA, there is zero evidence of any uptick in recent violence against whites (including the meme'd "white farmers") despite the fact that this rhetoric has been employed by the far left in Africa for years. If the State Department conducts an honest investigation and finds evidence of some militarization and actual signs of an impending explosion violence, that's a good and worthwhile investigation. But Trump is getting lampooned here because he's pretty obviously responding to conspiratorial, loosely corroborated reports by bullsh**t peddlers that overplay the level of violence we're seeing in South Africa. If you think he's ordering an investigation to be proactive instead of being reactive (reacting to garbage, that is) then you're naive.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2018, 09:50:40 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2018, 09:51:55 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2018, 09:53:05 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


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The articles I included LMAO
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2018, 09:57:09 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


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The articles I included LMAO

I've read through them both twice now, and this is the closest thing I could find:

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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2018, 10:08:01 PM »

South Africa does have a pretty substantial crime problem, or at least it did as of a few years ago, but “white genocide” is a ridiculous claim.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2018, 10:13:29 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


WHAT?

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The articles I included LMAO

I've read through them both twice now, and this is the closest thing I could find:

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Show me the exact quote where "They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation."

Correction. It's voluntary but there is compensation.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2018, 10:15:22 PM »

EDIT: White farmers are not being murdered en masse. Nor are they having their land stolen. They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation. It used to be they could sell the land and it would be redistributed to black people to equalize land ownership and economic status. Now, the only thing changed is that white farmers will not be getting paid if they give up their farms voluntarily because the previous system was too slow.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/trump-wants-pompeo-to-study-killing-of-farmers/10158114

https://www.axios.com/south-africa-land-seizures-trump-tweet-apartheid-ebfa1292-baed-4877-8600-829a851fc067.html


WHAT?

Do you have trouble reading?

Show me the proof of the bold text.

The articles I included LMAO

I've read through them both twice now, and this is the closest thing I could find:

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Show me the exact quote where "They are voluntarily giving it away without compensation."

Correction. It's voluntary but there is compensation.

So apparently, it is you who has trouble reading. LMAO.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2018, 10:19:31 PM »

The lack of self awareness is staggering when you hear a take about "Whites are being mistreated in South Africa because their land is being stolen".
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2018, 10:21:21 PM »

The lack of self awareness is staggering when you hear a take about "Whites are being mistreated in South Africa because their land is being stolen".
Explain.
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