BREAKING: COHEN PLEADS GUILTY TO 8 COUNTS

[President Johnson]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

You need to change the Planned Parenthood curtains and the Hillary lamp.

And the hat on the corner of the bed, needs to be changed to a MAGA cap.

Or a KKK robe

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

Does Trump need them or even care? The God Emperor will attack them as the swamp and the guys behind "bing, bing, bang"...

[IceSpear]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Democrat 2028]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

[BlueSwan]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Virginiá]

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

As soon as it's out of the news cycle and Trump appoints a couple new far-right federal appellate judges, they'll be back in love with their man

[BlueSwan]

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

As soon as it's out of the news cycle and Trump appoints a couple new far-right federal appellate judges, they'll be back in love with their man

...and their love will be even stronger. That's cognitive dissonance at work.

[Doimper]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

[For Trump, everything. For immigrants, the law]

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1032342464168960000

These hand wringing tweets come out after every single Trump scandal/gaffe, and nothing ever comes of it. I'll believe it when I see it.

Yeah, once this is out of the news cycle, they'll be back to talking about muh great economy again

[The Dowager Mod]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

Oh. That could be interesting.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

Oh. That could be interesting.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1032376866907336707

[Progressive Pessimist]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

Good! It stands to reason that it's yet another front. Just like Trump "University."

[Slander and/or Libel]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

Good! It stands to reason that it's yet another front. Just like Trump "University."

Doesn’t just stand to reason. There was good reporting done on it during the campaign. It just got drowned out by emails.

[Hindsight was 2020]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.  The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

[Koharu]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1032344918344249345

Good! It stands to reason that it's yet another front. Just like Trump "University."

Doesn’t just stand to reason. There was good reporting done on it during the campaign. It just got drowned out by emails.

And the cable channels giving Trump plenty of airtime to say "The Clinton foundation is corrupt!!!" which is easier to absorb than the fantastic articles that documented the many issues with the Trump foundation.

[Badger]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.  The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

This post is simply just pathetic.

[Virginiá]

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

1. I really don't think it's fair to compare Starr and Mueller. Starr was blatantly partisan, leaked like crazy and seemed to want to spread out as far as possible (based on my understanding of a 20+ year old investigation). Mueller's investigation has been fast, more or less leak-free and is run by someone who most pols on each side of the aisle expressed admiration and respect for. Further, he is a Republican, overseen by another Republican, investigating a Republican president. If politics is as cynical as people think, this is the best Trump could have fared if he was destined to wind up with a special counsel investigation.

2. It's debatable just how much you could argue Mueller's investigation is sprawling. He's still investigating the original crimes, and people caught up in it that seem like they are way "off-topic" are either in his scope because he's trying to leverage for cooperation and/or because it was impossible to ignore the crimes even if he tried. Manafort is an excellent example of that. Mueller probably has reason to believe he could know things, and encountered a massive amount of criminal behavior in his investigation. Even if Mueller didn't have any use for him, it would be malpractice (in my opinion) to not pursue charges, even if Mueller just opted to hand it off to another department. Trump and his cronies should not be let off the hook if Mueller/other investigators stumble across their crimes anyway.

If you really want to make the case that this is a true witch hunt, come back in a couple years after Mueller has basically concluded the original case but for some reason, shows no signs of stopping and is currently investigating and indicting people in connection to a completely new scandal that is outside the scope of the original investigation. Then I agree, you'd definitely have something there. But as it stands now, I think this witch hunt claim is unfair to Mueller.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Admittedly, wandering into a place like Daily Kos at times looks like a leftist fever dream, with people fully ready to believe Trump is communicating with handlers on a regular basis. But a great many of us, perhaps even most, just believe that Trump made opportunistic plays to leverage Russian assistance in an election even he was convinced he was losing.

I've thought about this a lot, and I'm actually fully prepared to believe that, at most, Trump is guilty of knowing about the hacked emails/data ahead of time and offering instructions on what he wants done with it, which afaik would be a fairly serious crime, given that it would essentially make him a party to a major violation of the CFAA, which hackers regularly get sentenced bigly for. I also think it's probable that Trump's Russian business dealings have left him vulnerable, and he has probably made some changes to both Republican Party policy and govt policy to stay in the good graces of Russians he is involved with. This is actually the least interesting possibility of the whole ordeal, since we already know he has received a lot of money from Russia due to numerous statements by his son(s) and Trump rather blatantly holds a major soft spot for Russia that lacks any other believable explanation.

I don't think it's that much more complex. For instance, if it was, (1) why were so many people in Trump's orbit reaching out to Russia to set up meetings? If there was a direct link at the top, they wouldn't need to do this and would probably be discouraged not to. (2) If there was -full- coordination, why did Russians start trying to hack Clinton's various accounts when Trump publicly asked them to at a campaign speech/press conf.? They wouldn't do it then if they were in communication, because Trump would have already asked them. The most likely explanation is, like I said, Trump saw an opportunity offered by a hostile foreign power and took it - rather haphazardly, too. Far from a smart, complex conspiracy but still a conspiracy nonetheless.

But not being more complex doesn't mean it isn't any less serious. If those^ theories turned out to be true, I believe that would absolutely be grounds for removal from office and prosecution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.

How do you know that though? Mueller has made pretty fast work of a lot of indictments, including a very complex untangling of Russian military officers and their roles in the conspiracy to meddle in our election, and that takes time. If Mueller has more indictments to drop closer to Trump himself, it makes since that he would wait until the end, because he can be fired at any moment by Trump (or rather, a new acting AG). This, by the way, is probably the most dumbfounding flaw in the American government's design - letting the president manage investigations into themselves.

The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

This seems accurate, but mostly because Trump probably won't resign and won't be removed because Congressional Republicans are scared of losing their jobs to GOP voters in love with Trump, and won't break with him over anything, except maybe short of him shooting someone on 5th Ave, on video tape, holding a sign that says "I am Donald Trump", with his passport (opened) taped to his chest and a personal photo album confirming its him taped to his ass. So, really, Mueller can't ever find enough to make it happen, because the people who decide Trump's fate are absurdly biased and conflicted, and thus have nearly impossible demands.

[Panda Express]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.  The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

This post is simply just pathetic.

Look at these two posts from Fuzzy and Naso as it gives good insight into the pathetic nature of the Trump supporter. Neither of these posts are claiming Trump is innocent. They both operate under the impression that Trump is guilty but their argument is basically "Haha! Trump may have committed felonies but you don't have 67 senators!"

[IceSpear]

This seems accurate, but mostly because Trump probably won't resign and won't be removed because Congressional Republicans are scared of losing their jobs to GOP voters in love with Trump, and won't break with him over anything, except maybe short of him shooting someone on 5th Ave, on video tape, holding a sign that says "I am Donald Trump", with his passport (opened) taped to his chest and a personal photo album confirming its him taped to his ass.

Sounds a bit too optimistic.

[|˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ]

Look at these two posts from Fuzzy and Naso as it gives good insight into the pathetic nature of the Trump supporter. Neither of these posts are claiming Trump is innocent. They both operate under the impression that Trump is guilty but their argument is basically "Haha! Trump may have committed felonies but you don't have 67 senators!"

Trump supporters dont mind crime as long as its their side that's doing it and they have the monopoly on it. They'll give strict scrutiny to someone not in their in-group while rationalizing any criminal activity to advance their own interests as justified. Just look at Jerry Fallwell Jr.'s twitter feed for proof.

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.  The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

Chart is before Cohen's guilty pleas and Manafort's convictions.

[|˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ]

This whole case is just aggravation. Even if somehow the Democrats win the House and proceed to impeach, you need 67 U.S. Senators to vote for removal. Even if the Democrats somehow won the Senate, they would probably need atleast 12-16 Republican Senators to join them. I just can't see it.

At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States until 2021 or 2025. To see the liberal "journalists" on CNN and MSNBC with spit flying out of their mouths with excitement shows that they are trying hard for an "All the Presidents Men" story when it actuality, it's nowhere near that.

The whole Trump thing reminds me of Whitewater, where a minor nothingburger was given lives of its own by the political enemies of a President to enable a Special Prosecutor with a vengeance to go far afield to dig until something stuck, and then came impeachment and a trial.  It didn't work out well for Bill Clinton's enemies, and I'm predicting in the end that this matter isn't going to do much more damage to Trump.

The goal here by Trump's enemies was to convince America that he was the Manchurian Candidate.  (Actually, "B-1 Bob" Dornan tried to do that to Clinton as well, in regards to his college trip to the USSR.)  They'll prove that Trump "colluded" (not a crime, but it sounds yucky) with Russia.  After almost 2 years, there's no reason to believe that what people REALLY want to prove is that Trump is a Russian Spy.  What they've proven is that a political consultant launders money and a lawyer made an illegal campaign contribution.

Might Trump have committed felonies?  Of course it's possible, but Mueller is not any closer to proving this now than he was a year ago.  The worst that will come of this is a blue wave.  The worst that will come of Mueller long-term is Trump's re-election defeat.  But he won't be removed from office.  He won't resign.  And he won't because Mueller doesn't have enough to make that happen.

Chart is before Cohen's guilty pleas and Manafort's convictions.

lol at using facts and logic with Trump supporters...they dont care about your charts. Your wasting your time. You'll get another neatly crafted, well written narrative that hides and obscures the deeper meaning of why they support Trump. Just give it up...you cant deal with these people and they will just lie to save face.