Mollie Tibbetts, missing Iowa college student, found dead

[ProudModerate2]

If our dear friend Reaganfan wasn't a racist why is her so terrified of having his real name posted? He knows but needs to stay hidden or maybe he'd have real life implications.

I think a number of people here, know his name.
He has shared information with members using different social media outlets.
We have seen pictures of him mimicking someone wearing a Middle Eastern head-dress (further proving his bigoted ways), and someone here told me that his mother embarrassed him by (Facebook) posting that he had a very big shlong as a child.
I wouldn't doubt if people know his full name and even his home address.

[Slander and/or Libel]

If our dear friend Reaganfan wasn't a racist why is her so terrified of having his real name posted? He knows but needs to stay hidden or maybe he'd have real life implications.

Threatening to doxx someone should be a bannable offense.

Lol, pretending only things you don’t like should be bannable to own the libs.

[JGibson]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

This is the right response needed regarding the senseless death of Mollie Tibbetts.

[KingSweden]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

This is the right response needed regarding the senseless death of Mollie Tibbetts.

[cvparty]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

i've kinda been wondering, what exactly makes a murder committed by an illegal immigrant worse than by someone born in america? the result is the same...both are despicable, but it's not like it's possible for no immigrants (legal or not) to commit any crime...just saying

[ProudModerate2]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

This is the right response needed regarding the senseless death of Mollie Tibbetts.

[Mopsus]

i've kinda been wondering, what exactly makes a murder committed by an illegal immigrant worse than by someone born in america? the result is the same...both are despicable, but it's not like it's possible for no immigrants (legal or not) to commit any crime...just saying

Crimes committed by illegal immigrants are more galling because they wouldn’t have occurred if we had control of our immigration system.

Of course, even if the alien in question resides here legally, he wouldn’t be here if businesses were willing to pay a living wage to natives. You’d think that liberals would be open to that argument, but they don’t have a problem with capitalist exploitation as long as it displaces “those people”.

[Mike Thick]

This is going to be like the Steinle case times a million

Eh the Steinle case you could argue bureaucratic inertia really did lead to her death. AFAIK they discovered this guy was here illegally after his arrest (could be wrong)

Also Sanchez I really don’t know how you sleep cheering about kids being kept in cages. It’s one thing to oppose illegal immigration, it’s another to actively cheerlead abject cruelty.

I should have clarified that I meant in terms of immediate and large-scale politicization. Unfortunately, I seem to have been proven right

[Calthrina950]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

This is the right response needed regarding the senseless death of Mollie Tibbetts.

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

This is the right response needed regarding the senseless death of Mollie Tibbetts.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

i've kinda been wondering, what exactly makes a murder committed by an illegal immigrant worse than by someone born in america? the result is the same...both are despicable, but it's not like it's possible for no immigrants (legal or not) to commit any crime...just saying

The fact that if that illegal immigrant had not entered the US the victim would not have been murdered by that person.

Mollie Tibbetts didn't die because it was her turn; she died (allegedly) because a Mexican National was able to crash our borders and remain in the US for 7 years, until he was able to commit a crime of opportunity by stalking her and killing her (according to police).

Mollie Tibbetts is dead because our immigration laws weren't enforced in the case of her (alleged) killer.  He wasn't prevented from coming into the US, he wasn't vetted, he wasn't removed, he wasn't subjected to e-verify where he worked, and now Mollie Tibbetts is dead.  That's the difference; there's system failure surrounding her death regarding our immigration enforcement that isn't present in every murder.

[Don't blame me I voted for Harris]

Sweet Jesus... Candace Owens is literally attacking a family member of Mollie's on Twitter

https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1032323750103056385

[KingSweden]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

i've kinda been wondering, what exactly makes a murder committed by an illegal immigrant worse than by someone born in america? the result is the same...both are despicable, but it's not like it's possible for no immigrants (legal or not) to commit any crime...just saying

The fact that if that illegal immigrant had not entered the US the victim would not have been murdered by that person.

Mollie Tibbetts didn't die because it was her turn; she died (allegedly) because a Mexican National was able to crash our borders and remain in the US for 7 years, until he was able to commit a crime of opportunity by stalking her and killing her (according to police).

Mollie Tibbetts is dead because our immigration laws weren't enforced in the case of her (alleged) killer.  He wasn't prevented from coming into the US, he wasn't vetted, he wasn't removed, he wasn't subjected to e-verify where he worked, and now Mollie Tibbetts is dead.  That's the difference; there's system failure surrounding her death regarding our immigration enforcement that isn't present in every murder.

There’s fairly substantial indications that he wasn’t here illegally, as has been discussed upthread

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

Mollie Tibbetts' killing was an act of senseless violence. The story of her last hours is exactly what countless women worry about every day, and the monster who did this to her should rot in jail until he dies. My heart breaks for her, her family, her friends - it seems like she was a brilliant young woman, taken by the whims of a predator before she could live her best days.

For the record, the politicization of this tragedy is being performed heartless individuals, who would rather exploit and trample upon a dead woman's legacy than let her loved ones mourn in peace. The government could not have done anything to save her life, and there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors. I didn't see anyone saying that we should remove police officers from the US after they caught Joseph DeAngelo. I didn't see anyone saying that Armenians should be removed from Canada after the Toronto van attack. Holding an entire group of people responsible for one monster's actions is just as ridiculous as the scenarios above.

Rest in peace, Mollie. You were gone too soon.

i've kinda been wondering, what exactly makes a murder committed by an illegal immigrant worse than by someone born in america? the result is the same...both are despicable, but it's not like it's possible for no immigrants (legal or not) to commit any crime...just saying

The fact that if that illegal immigrant had not entered the US the victim would not have been murdered by that person.

Mollie Tibbetts didn't die because it was her turn; she died (allegedly) because a Mexican National was able to crash our borders and remain in the US for 7 years, until he was able to commit a crime of opportunity by stalking her and killing her (according to police).

Mollie Tibbetts is dead because our immigration laws weren't enforced in the case of her (alleged) killer.  He wasn't prevented from coming into the US, he wasn't vetted, he wasn't removed, he wasn't subjected to e-verify where he worked, and now Mollie Tibbetts is dead.  That's the difference; there's system failure surrounding her death regarding our immigration enforcement that isn't present in every murder.

There’s fairly substantial indications that he wasn’t here illegally, as has been discussed upthread

My 10 o'clock news continues to run with the "illegal alien" story.  There was a part of the story that indicated his employer didn't know who he really was, and they didn't use e-verify.  We'll see about that.

I certainly agree with the statement:  "there are vile, deranged individuals of all creeds and colors".  But when that contingent is added to by illegal immigration, there is a systemic failure.  A person who shouldn't be here added to the problem.  This individual likely should not have been here.  People are not wrong to make that point.  As illegal immigrants are not vetted, not able to work legally in the US, and not able to legally obtain ID (in many cases), why should it be so far-fetched that this subgroup of people will commit more criminal offenses than the "average" person? 

[Badger]

Apparently this fellow was here legally.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/investigations/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbetts-alleged-killer-iowa-legally-lawyer-missing-student-body-found-brooklyn-trump/1064567002/

Last paragraphs of the story:

"Yarrabee Farms, Rivera’s employer, issued a statement Tuesday night saying Rivera was vetted through the government's E-Verify system. However, a government archive does not indicate the Brooklyn, Iowa, farm as a participating member of the system.

On Wednesday, officials from the farm acknowledged they did not use the E-Verify system and that Rivera gave them false information."

[ProudModerate2]

... As illegal immigrants are not vetted, not able to work legally in the US, and not able to legally obtain ID (in many cases), why should it be so far-fetched that this subgroup of people will commit more criminal offenses than the "average" person? 

There has been numerous studies that show that this is not true.
You know that, and you have seen them. Links showing evidence of this have been posted over and over again.
You have been on this bigoted campaign of bashing "brown people" since the summer of 2016 with your constant failed attempt to attach "MS-13" violence to the vast majority of people that come who are just poor and finding a means to feed their family.

You must be one of the most disappointing Christians I have ever encountered on this entire planet through the many years I have been alive.

[Badger]

... As illegal immigrants are not vetted, not able to work legally in the US, and not able to legally obtain ID (in many cases), why should it be so far-fetched that this subgroup of people will commit more criminal offenses than the "average" person? 

You must be one of the most disappointing Christians I have ever encountered on this entire planet through the many years I have been alive.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.

I must be doing something right.

[ProudModerate2]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

I honestly don't care what you think.

There are people that have attacked me with all sorts of vitriol, and I haven't said "I don't care what you think!" about them.  Truthfully, I care 100 times more about Scarlet's opinions than yours, because while she's full of beans most of the time, I was that way a lot at her age, and I had potential for growth.

You, sadly, appear to be a finished product.  You appear to be someone who will never grow out of snarkiness and unreachability.  But I'm a grown-up.  I don't put anyone on ignore; that's for snowflakes in need of a "safe zone".  Instead, I'll play the Act "As If" game; I'll act as if you actually have a sense of reason that can be appealed to.  Or that there is actually "moderation" in something besides your screen name.

But I really don't care what you think.  You're in a very rare category with me.

[ProudModerate2]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

I honestly don't care what you think.

There are people that have attacked me with all sorts of vitriol, and I haven't said "I don't care what you think!" about them.  Truthfully, I care 100 times more about Scarlet's opinions than yours, because while she's full of beans most of the time, I was that way a lot at her age, and I had potential for growth.

You, sadly, appear to be a finished product.  You appear to be someone who will never grow out of snarkiness and unreachability.  But I'm a grown-up.  I don't put anyone on ignore; that's for snowflakes in need of a "safe zone".  Instead, I'll play the Act "As If" game; I'll act as if you actually have a sense of reason that can be appealed to.  Or that there is actually "moderation" in something besides your screen name.

But I really don't care what you think.  You're in a very rare category with me.

You obviously care, as you are responding.
I have only put one person on ignore on this site, my entire time here (some Russian dude from spring/summer of 2016, who we no longer see).

You call me a finished product, but you yourself have become one with your bigoted views due to your extreme Christian faith. Once you have retarded your mind with your faith, there is no hope for you on this Earth or in any after-life.

You cannot hide and use your Christian faith to disguise your hatred for people of color or for people who have a different sexual orientation than you. Others might hesitate to call you out on it, but I will not.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

I honestly don't care what you think.

There are people that have attacked me with all sorts of vitriol, and I haven't said "I don't care what you think!" about them.  Truthfully, I care 100 times more about Scarlet's opinions than yours, because while she's full of beans most of the time, I was that way a lot at her age, and I had potential for growth.

You, sadly, appear to be a finished product.  You appear to be someone who will never grow out of snarkiness and unreachability.  But I'm a grown-up.  I don't put anyone on ignore; that's for snowflakes in need of a "safe zone".  Instead, I'll play the Act "As If" game; I'll act as if you actually have a sense of reason that can be appealed to.  Or that there is actually "moderation" in something besides your screen name.

But I really don't care what you think.  You're in a very rare category with me.

You obviously care, as you are responding.
I have only put one person on ignore on this site, my entire time here (some Russian dude from spring/summer of 2016, who we no longer see).

You call me a finished product, but you yourself have become one with your bigoted views due to your extreme Christian faith. Once you have retarded your mind with your faith, there is no hope for you on this Earth or in any after-life.

You cannot hide and use your Christian faith to disguise your hatred for people of color or for people who have a different sexual orientation than you. Others might hesitate to call you out on it, but I will not.

And, of course, you can provide theology to support all of this.

[Dr. Arch]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

I honestly don't care what you think.

There are people that have attacked me with all sorts of vitriol, and I haven't said "I don't care what you think!" about them.  Truthfully, I care 100 times more about Scarlet's opinions than yours, because while she's full of beans most of the time, I was that way a lot at her age, and I had potential for growth.

You, sadly, appear to be a finished product.  You appear to be someone who will never grow out of snarkiness and unreachability.  But I'm a grown-up.  I don't put anyone on ignore; that's for snowflakes in need of a "safe zone".  Instead, I'll play the Act "As If" game; I'll act as if you actually have a sense of reason that can be appealed to.  Or that there is actually "moderation" in something besides your screen name.

But I really don't care what you think.  You're in a very rare category with me.

You obviously care, as you are responding.
I have only put one person on ignore on this site, my entire time here (some Russian dude from spring/summer of 2016, who we no longer see).

You call me a finished product, but you yourself have become one with your bigoted views due to your extreme Christian faith. Once you have retarded your mind with your faith, there is no hope for you on this Earth or in any after-life.

You cannot hide and use your Christian faith to disguise your hatred for people of color or for people who have a different sexual orientation than you. Others might hesitate to call you out on it, but I will not.

And, of course, you can provide theology to support all of this.

Honestly, one can provide theology to support practically anything because most guiding scriptures in most religions are pragmatically ambiguous (i.e. open to interpretation depending on the context of the reader and the context in which the reader wishes to interpret the text).

We saw theology used for and against marriage equality, miscegenation laws, women's rights, slavery, etc. etc.

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.
I must be doing something right.

If you mean that you are doing and saying the right things to get you to hell, then yes, you are doing something right.

I honestly don't care what you think.

There are people that have attacked me with all sorts of vitriol, and I haven't said "I don't care what you think!" about them.  Truthfully, I care 100 times more about Scarlet's opinions than yours, because while she's full of beans most of the time, I was that way a lot at her age, and I had potential for growth.

You, sadly, appear to be a finished product.  You appear to be someone who will never grow out of snarkiness and unreachability.  But I'm a grown-up.  I don't put anyone on ignore; that's for snowflakes in need of a "safe zone".  Instead, I'll play the Act "As If" game; I'll act as if you actually have a sense of reason that can be appealed to.  Or that there is actually "moderation" in something besides your screen name.

But I really don't care what you think.  You're in a very rare category with me.

You obviously care, as you are responding.
I have only put one person on ignore on this site, my entire time here (some Russian dude from spring/summer of 2016, who we no longer see).

You call me a finished product, but you yourself have become one with your bigoted views due to your extreme Christian faith. Once you have retarded your mind with your faith, there is no hope for you on this Earth or in any after-life.

You cannot hide and use your Christian faith to disguise your hatred for people of color or for people who have a different sexual orientation than you. Others might hesitate to call you out on it, but I will not.

And, of course, you can provide theology to support all of this.

Honestly, one can provide theology to support practically anything because most guiding scriptures in most religious are pragmatically ambiguous (i.e. open to interpretation depending on the context of the reader and the context in which the reader wishes to interpret the text).

We saw theology used for and against marriage equality, miscegenation laws, women's rights, slavery, etc. etc.

True, and it's not always used correctly.  I really do want to see what PM2 comes up with.  Call it self-indulgence.

[Badger]

ProudModerate2 and Badger.  Back to Back.

I must be doing something right.

Nope. Not a damn thing. Just more conjuration to justify your own ignorant prejudices.

In other words, a day that ends in y. Carry on.