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Rick Snyder- MI
 
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Rick Scott- Fl
 
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« on: August 17, 2018, 10:39:00 PM »

Which rick did a better job
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 11:05:17 PM »

Rick Scott doesn't have a "Flint" on his hands.  Scott's state has a booming economy.  People are moving to Scott's state in droves.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2018, 12:23:18 AM »

It's kind of unfair to compare the two, given that Snyder had a far more difficult (and in some ways impossible) job.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2018, 12:31:01 AM »

You forgot Rick Perry in your poll....and he arguably did a better job than either Scott or Snyder.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2018, 01:01:24 AM »

Of the options, Scott.
But really WI: Perry
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2018, 05:02:54 AM »

Rick Scott is an amazing politician. His personality, politics, and professional past are so reprehensible, yet the guy continues to win close elections without even a very strong record. He now has a chance to unseat an entrenched and not so unpopular incumbent in a year where his party, and his brand of politics in particular, are being rejected across the country. Everything about Rick Scott should scream unelectable in a lean R state, forget about a state that voted for Barack Obama twice. It's time to admit that this guy is good and Florida is really really stupid.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2018, 09:09:15 AM »

Rick Scott is an amazing politician. His personality, politics, and professional past are so reprehensible, yet the guy continues to win close elections without even a very strong record. He now has a chance to unseat an entrenched and not so unpopular incumbent in a year where his party, and his brand of politics in particular, are being rejected across the country. Everything about Rick Scott should scream unelectable in a lean R state, forget about a state that voted for Barack Obama twice. It's time to admit that this guy is good and Florida is really really stupid.

I really have to agree with this.  And as much as I hate Rick Scott, he didn't damage FL as much as Snyder damaged MI.

Scott's secret to success is his laser-focus on jobs, and the fact that the economy was at rock bottom when he was elected and improved over time during his tenure made him look better.  He doesn't make gaffes, and he chooses to simply refuse to answer questions about issues that impact negatively on him, rather than gild the lily and get caught at it.  He's seen as a guy that's focused on jobs, and he improved his image while managing the crises of major hurricanes in back-to-back years.  He's got his favorables above water.  That's pretty good for a guy who has never been considered popular.  Scott does project competence, even if he is not empathic, and people prefer competence to empathy in a crisis.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2018, 12:53:05 PM »

Scott, though that's saying nothing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2018, 01:00:39 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2018, 03:06:42 PM »

Rick Scott is an amazing politician. His personality, politics, and professional past are so reprehensible, yet the guy continues to win close elections without even a very strong record. He now has a chance to unseat an entrenched and not so unpopular incumbent in a year where his party, and his brand of politics in particular, are being rejected across the country. Everything about Rick Scott should scream unelectable in a lean R state, forget about a state that voted for Barack Obama twice. It's time to admit that this guy is good and Florida is really really stupid.

I really have to agree with this.  And as much as I hate Rick Scott, he didn't damage FL as much as Snyder damaged MI.

Scott's secret to success is his laser-focus on jobs, and the fact that the economy was at rock bottom when he was elected and improved over time during his tenure made him look better.  He doesn't make gaffes, and he chooses to simply refuse to answer questions about issues that impact negatively on him, rather than gild the lily and get caught at it.  He's seen as a guy that's focused on jobs, and he improved his image while managing the crises of major hurricanes in back-to-back years.  He's got his favorables above water.  That's pretty good for a guy who has never been considered popular.  Scott does project competence, even if he is not empathic, and people prefer competence to empathy in a crisis.

Scotts secret is he ran for office during two GOP wave years. Thats basically 90% of it. The rest: focus on jobs, hurricanes, etc are irrelevant. The average voter just isnt involved enough to notice all that stuff
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2018, 04:25:28 PM »

Rick Snyder, because he poses no threat to us anymore.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2018, 04:33:45 PM »

There are so many horrible Republicans named Rick! To answer the question though, as much as I hate him and as low as that bar is- Rick Scott. It isn't even close.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2018, 04:41:06 PM »

Scott, although they are both awful.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2018, 05:07:43 PM »

Rick Scott doesn't have a "Flint" on his hands. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2018, 05:49:57 PM »

The Fraudster over The Flintster
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2018, 05:58:29 PM »

Pre-Flint, it was Snyder and not even close. I enthusiastically endorsed Snyder for re-election in 2014, while at the same time backing Charlie Crist in Florida.

Post-Flint, basically a Toss-Up. Ideologically, Snyder by a nose. In strict terms of mere competency for the job, Scott by a nose.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2018, 08:07:41 PM »

Rick Scott is an amazing politician. His personality, politics, and professional past are so reprehensible, yet the guy continues to win close elections without even a very strong record. He now has a chance to unseat an entrenched and not so unpopular incumbent in a year where his party, and his brand of politics in particular, are being rejected across the country. Everything about Rick Scott should scream unelectable in a lean R state, forget about a state that voted for Barack Obama twice. It's time to admit that this guy is good and Florida is really really stupid.

I really have to agree with this.  And as much as I hate Rick Scott, he didn't damage FL as much as Snyder damaged MI.

Scott's secret to success is his laser-focus on jobs, and the fact that the economy was at rock bottom when he was elected and improved over time during his tenure made him look better.  He doesn't make gaffes, and he chooses to simply refuse to answer questions about issues that impact negatively on him, rather than gild the lily and get caught at it.  He's seen as a guy that's focused on jobs, and he improved his image while managing the crises of major hurricanes in back-to-back years.  He's got his favorables above water.  That's pretty good for a guy who has never been considered popular.  Scott does project competence, even if he is not empathic, and people prefer competence to empathy in a crisis.

Scotts secret is he ran for office during two GOP wave years. Thats basically 90% of it. The rest: focus on jobs, hurricanes, etc are irrelevant. The average voter just isnt involved enough to notice all that stuff
The problem is Nelson is campaigning just like Hawley...sleeping at the wheel.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2018, 08:53:53 PM »

Rick Scott is an amazing politician. His personality, politics, and professional past are so reprehensible, yet the guy continues to win close elections without even a very strong record. He now has a chance to unseat an entrenched and not so unpopular incumbent in a year where his party, and his brand of politics in particular, are being rejected across the country. Everything about Rick Scott should scream unelectable in a lean R state, forget about a state that voted for Barack Obama twice. It's time to admit that this guy is good and Florida is really really stupid.

I really have to agree with this.  And as much as I hate Rick Scott, he didn't damage FL as much as Snyder damaged MI.

Scott's secret to success is his laser-focus on jobs, and the fact that the economy was at rock bottom when he was elected and improved over time during his tenure made him look better.  He doesn't make gaffes, and he chooses to simply refuse to answer questions about issues that impact negatively on him, rather than gild the lily and get caught at it.  He's seen as a guy that's focused on jobs, and he improved his image while managing the crises of major hurricanes in back-to-back years.  He's got his favorables above water.  That's pretty good for a guy who has never been considered popular.  Scott does project competence, even if he is not empathic, and people prefer competence to empathy in a crisis.

Scotts secret is he ran for office during two GOP wave years. Thats basically 90% of it. The rest: focus on jobs, hurricanes, etc are irrelevant. The average voter just isnt involved enough to notice all that stuff
The problem is Nelson is campaigning just like Hawley...sleeping at the wheel.


The objective interpretation of a political campaign means very little in a national environment like this. Sure, Nelson is running a clown-tier campaign but so were many others who won re-election in previous elections. At the end of the day...the national environment and fundamentals determine all despite the commercials, soundbites, slogans, etc...

A guy like Nelson would of been BTFO under a Hillary presidency but thanks to the clown GOP nominating Scott...he'll probably squeak on by like Jones in Alabama.

MUH fundamentals would have told you that Mark Begich was going to get absolutely slaughtered in 2014, yet he nearly survived. MUH fundamentals would crown Katie McGinty as Senator in PA (Toomey only won by two points in 2010, doomed in 2016). That's just two of many many examples. Quit treating fundamentals like some sort of God.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2018, 09:04:51 PM »


MUH fundamentals would have told you that Mark Begich was going to get absolutely slaughtered in 2014, yet he nearly survived. MUH fundamentals would crown Katie McGinty as Senator in PA (Toomey only won by two points in 2010, doomed in 2016). That's just two of many many examples. Quit treating fundamentals like some sort of God.

Clown...The national environment and fundamentals determine all...this idea that Atlas has that elections ebb and flow based on irrelevant campaign commercials and moronic campaign slogans is tomfoolery. The national environment and fundamentals determine all....few people want to believe it because it conflicts with their narrative of how elections go but your average American voter is too goddamn stupid to arrive at some educated conclusion.

It's true that the average american voter is too stupid to come to an educated conclusion, but many voters are not average. I just pointed out two scenarios where the fundamentals would have resulted in you getting in an incorrect impression of the election.
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2018, 09:42:27 PM »

Perry? Obviously him, if it weren't for the "oops" moment in 2012 he would have done pretty well in the primaries.
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2018, 03:31:03 PM »

You forgot Rick Perry in your poll....and he arguably did a better job than either Scott or Snyder.

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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2018, 05:14:02 PM »

Rick Scott doesnt have a Flint, Michigan. But there is currently a major eco disaster along the west coast of Florida that has happened under his watch.
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