Trump supporters: Tell me why the President *isn’t* super-racist.
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« Reply #150 on: August 19, 2018, 12:48:24 PM »

I get that honest conversations about racism are virtually impossible these days, but wow... this thread was a *fun* read. I think this thread was doomed from the start though, since I really don't think Democrats are convincing anyone to join their side with accusations of racism, or trying to catch people in the act of racism. Now, I do personally think that Trump is racist. What I'm saying is that trying to prove that he is isn't going to turn people who support him away from him. Either they're convinced that he isn't, and nothing is going to change their mind, or they don't care (as Santander pointed out.)

This is a bone I have to pick with the "pro-diversity/multiculturalism" ideology of the Democratic Party. I'm saying that as a left-winger who likes diversity and thinks multiculturalism is not only a wonderful thing, but necessary in the world of today. Unfortunately, I think too many liberals only promote being "multi-cultural" or "anti-racist" for the sake of their image, claiming moral superiority, and enjoy chewing people out as racists. Calling someone out as a racist is hardly ever helpful, even if it's accurate.

Democrats have to do a better job of selling multiculturalism (often through the form of immigration) as something positive, and not coming across as wanting to label everyone as a racist. It's going to be tough, because accepting other cultures and understanding people with very different backgrounds is most often not easy. Speaking as someone who's lived in another country before, coming into direct contact with other cultures can be very uncomfortable at times, even if you think you're the most forward-thinking progressive on the planet. I think we need to understand that a lot of Americans are not immediately going to be in love with the idea of a multicultural America, and instead of denouncing anyone uncomfortable with that idea as a racist, we need to sell the idea to them, and understand their hesitation to get behind it.

Some Democrats want to reach out to Americans who have been turned off by the left recently, others want to double down on being pro-immigration and multicultural. I want to do both.

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« Reply #151 on: August 19, 2018, 12:56:14 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.

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« Reply #152 on: August 19, 2018, 02:27:35 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.
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« Reply #153 on: August 19, 2018, 02:40:42 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

Because if something you come across isn't  pleasant, we all should just sit down and eat some strawberry ice cream and not worry about it
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« Reply #154 on: August 19, 2018, 05:42:15 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
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« Reply #155 on: August 19, 2018, 06:05:29 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
Do you smell your own farts too?
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« Reply #156 on: August 19, 2018, 07:45:29 PM »

So all these replies and no one disproved the OP? LOL.

They seem to be excusing his racism more than refuting it.
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« Reply #157 on: August 20, 2018, 12:12:50 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
Do you smell your own farts too?

Very clever for a third-grader.
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« Reply #158 on: August 20, 2018, 12:24:32 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
Do you smell your own farts too?

Very clever for a third-grader.
I'm just noting how smug you are. Nothing low-brow intended.
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« Reply #159 on: August 20, 2018, 12:29:50 PM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
Do you smell your own farts too?

Very clever for a third-grader.
I'm just noting how smug you are. Nothing low-brow intended.


Well you're pretty smug too, so maybe we can meet in the middle. Smiley
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« Reply #160 on: August 21, 2018, 06:45:23 AM »

There really isn't a relevant discussion to be had on this, PR knew exactly what he was doing when he made this thread and worded the subject as he did.  

Let's dispel with this fiction that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing.


Purposely picking a fight over an intentionally inflammatory issue isn't particularly brave.

And you know about picking fights with people.
Do you smell your own farts too?

Very clever for a third-grader.
I'm just noting how smug you are. Nothing low-brow intended.


Well you're pretty smug too, so maybe we can meet in the middle. Smiley

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