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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2018, 07:44:56 PM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2018, 09:34:56 PM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.


When did I ever say the race wasn't a tossup? I said it was one optimistic data point for McCaskill, who is looking to be in better shape than Donnelly is at least.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2018, 09:36:20 PM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.

MO scout was used, but Remington, an R firm, sponsored the poll. So this is, in fact, a Remington poll.
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2018, 12:02:37 AM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.

MO scout was used, but Remington, an R firm, sponsored the poll. So this is, in fact, a Remington poll.
But does that mean they can be compared to show movement.  Generally I will not use two different polling organizations to show movement.
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2018, 12:04:54 AM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.

MO scout was used, but Remington, an R firm, sponsored the poll. So this is, in fact, a Remington poll.
But does that mean they can be compared to show movement.  Generally I will not use two different polling organizations to show movement.
TBH, I dont know. Its hard to see whether this is movement to either side, due to the fact that it was done by both, but due to the fact that this is considered an R internal, I lean towards the "movement to Claire" side.
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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2018, 12:54:18 AM »

This race is less competitive than ND/IN/FL and I'm fascinated by the fact that some people don't see that. McCaskill is a strong politician and to be underestimated at one's peril.
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2018, 06:18:10 AM »

Is that an improvement for McCaskill since the last poll?

Yeah, she was down by 2 in their July poll.

Seeing as this is a Republican pollster, good result for McCaskill. McCaskill is sort of the anti-Nelson. She's looking less vulnerable than, say, Donnelly and Heitkamp because of how weak Hawley is shaping up to be. However, just like Nelson has room to grow and will probably surge toward the end, McCaskill's ceiling is low and Hawley could surge toward the end. Best case scenario is Nelson gets his s*it together and Hawley doesn't, of course.

Can you two not read?  The article says that this is a Missouri Scout poll.  It also says that the last two Missouri Scout polls had McCaskill up by 4.

This new poll is not yet in the RCP average. If it Is added, the average becomes McCaskill +.2.  If you drop the April and May polls it becomes Hawley +.7

The race is a tossup.

MO scout was used, but Remington, an R firm, sponsored the poll. So this is, in fact, a Remington poll.

But where does it say in the article that Remington sponsored it?! Or am I missing something?
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2018, 06:39:08 AM »

Yeah I don't see anything about this being a Remington poll, either, the last MO Scout poll (MO Scout has their own polling Tongue) had McCaskill up by 4.....
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2018, 11:10:37 AM »

Per DKE, the firm is a Dem one, TBJ Strategies, that Scout used for earlier polls. Crosstabs here. It also shows GOP leading Auditor race 47/42. Medical marijuana, redistricting and minimum wage amendments all have big leads.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2018, 12:42:11 PM »

RCP HAS THE NEW Missouri Scout poll posted and still has the Remington poll in the mix.  Th average is Hawley +.2.  If you disregard all the pre July polls the average is Hawley +1.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2018, 12:43:14 PM »

Slightly tilt Democratic. A tie in a Republican internal is a good sign for McCaskill. I think she wins by 3-4 points in the end.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2018, 12:49:24 PM »

McCaskill is in great shape if this poll is accurate: undecidedes are higher in media markets favorable to her, she has consolidated Democrats, cut into Republicans (11%), winning independents by a strong margin, and crushing Hawley among moderates. A strong turnout operation for these popular, progressive ballot measures will provide critical assistance.
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2018, 02:33:35 PM »

Whoa you mean a Tossup race is still a Tossup no way you guys
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2018, 02:42:15 PM »

So it has been confirmed this was not a remington poll and thus not a republican poll, might want to change the title Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2018, 02:47:28 PM »

Change from previous poll.

McCaskill - 47 (-1)
Hawley - 47 (+3)
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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2018, 09:30:21 AM »

So it has been confirmed this was not a remington poll and thus not a republican poll, might want to change the title Tongue
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2018, 09:37:20 AM »

This is a good poll for Hawley considering how this is a Democratic internal and shows an improvement since last time. Hawley can also find optimism with the fact that republicans have tended to outperform the polls in Missouri as of Late
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2018, 09:37:24 AM »

So it has been confirmed this was not a remington poll and thus not a republican poll, might want to change the title Tongue

Don’t rain on their parade.

This race really brings out the worst in Atlas.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2018, 10:47:54 AM »

This is a good poll for Hawley considering how this is a Democratic internal and shows an improvement since last time. Hawley can also find optimism with the fact that republicans have tended to outperform the polls in Missouri as of Late
This is a Republican internal.
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2018, 10:50:50 AM »

After all of this debate, I officially have no idea what this poll means in context with anything.

What I do know is that, if Claire is tying now, then shes likely to win reelection, unless Hawley turns out to be a juggernaut.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2018, 11:20:44 AM »

This is a good poll for Hawley considering how this is a Democratic internal and shows an improvement since last time. Hawley can also find optimism with the fact that republicans have tended to outperform the polls in Missouri as of Late
This is a Republican internal.

WTH it's neither of those.
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2018, 01:49:29 PM »

This is a good poll for Hawley considering how this is a Democratic internal and shows an improvement since last time. Hawley can also find optimism with the fact that republicans have tended to outperform the polls in Missouri as of Late
This is a Republican internal.

WTH it's neither of those.

Would those claiming this anybody’s internal poll please provide proof?
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2018, 07:23:22 PM »

It's going to be a tossup right up to Election Day, in all probability.
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