Trump wants to revoke security clearances for former intelligence officials

[Take your vitamins and say your prayers, Brother!]

My question is simply this:  Why do these folks keep their clearances ad infinitum?

John Brennan doesn't work for the Government anymore.  Why does he need top secret security clearances?

[Alabama_Indy10]

I’m kinda on board with this. Why does a professional talking head need a security clearance?

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Dems should revoke Trump's security clearance after the midterms

[Yank2133]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

[KingSweden]

My question is simply this:  Why do these folks keep their clearances ad infinitum?

John Brennan doesn't work for the Government anymore.  Why does he need top secret security clearances?

They don’t get TS clearances to view new intelligence. Their clearances remain in place so they can discuss classified matters from their tenure with their successors in case something comes up. So Trump’s tantrum is actively harming his own administration.

[IceSpear]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Nah, that would be too "divisive" and mean we're "stuck in the past" and that "it's time to move forward."

[Yank2133]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Nah, that would be too "divisive" and mean we're "stuck in the past" and that "it's time to move forward."

Sad thing is the media would agree with them and the Democratic president would back down.

[ProudModerate2]

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I guess any would-be New Business Plot conspirators know who to have Jeb have lunch with.

[DINGO Joe]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Well, convicted felons should have their clearance revoked.

[Calthrina950]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Well, convicted felons should have their clearance revoked.

Jumping to conclusions isn't an advisable move.

[DINGO Joe]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Well, convicted felons should have their clearance revoked.

Jumping to conclusions isn't an advisable move.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/donald-trump-brennan-security-clearance/index.html

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Moderate heroes usually at least pretend to be anti-corruption.  You need to up your game.

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Why do these people have security clearances when they are retired?

Seriously, I didn't realize that all of these "retirees" keep their security clearances.  I read about things like this and I think of all these folks talking about the "Deep State".  Frankly, revoking Brennan's clearance is a needed cutting back of any Deep State we have.  He's retired.  Why does he get a Security Clearance if he's retired?

[DINGO Joe]

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Why do these people have security clearances when they are retired?

Seriously, I didn't realize that all of these "retirees" keep their security clearances.  I read about things like this and I think of all these folks talking about the "Deep State".  Frankly, revoking Brennan's clearance is a needed cutting back of any Deep State we have.  He's retired.  Why does he get a Security Clearance if he's retired?

Because they have a lifetime of experience and as long as they don't do anything illegal they should be an active part of the community and a resource that active members can draw upon. 

[Calthrina950]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Well, convicted felons should have their clearance revoked.

Jumping to conclusions isn't an advisable move.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/donald-trump-brennan-security-clearance/index.html

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Moderate heroes usually at least pretend to be anti-corruption.  You need to up your game.

I don't have to answer to you. I've made clear elsewhere on this forum that I don't think conclusions should be drawn about Trump until the Mueller investigation has finished its work. Partisan Democrats on this forum, however, believe that you have to be part of the "Resistance" to get a say here, and that anything you say not in line with their platform is wrong.

[DINGO Joe]

I can't wait for the rights reaction when President Biden, Harris, Booker etc. revokes Trump's security clearance and everyone who worked for his administration. 

Well, convicted felons should have their clearance revoked.

Jumping to conclusions isn't an advisable move.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/donald-trump-brennan-security-clearance/index.html

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Moderate heroes usually at least pretend to be anti-corruption.  You need to up your game.

I don't have to answer to you. I've made clear elsewhere on this forum that I don't think conclusions should be drawn about Trump until the Mueller investigation has finished its work. Partisan Democrats on this forum, however, believe that you have to be part of the "Resistance" to get a say here, and that anything you say not in line with their platform is wrong.

I really don't care if you answer me as I rarely have the interest in debating.

Fact--Michael Flynn has plead guilty to a felony of lying to the FBI.  Clearance not revoked.
John Brennan long time respected member of the intelligence community with no felonies--revoked

[ProudModerate2]

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Why do these people have security clearances when they are retired?

Seriously, I didn't realize that all of these "retirees" keep their security clearances.  I read about things like this and I think of all these folks talking about the "Deep State".  Frankly, revoking Brennan's clearance is a needed cutting back of any Deep State we have.  He's retired.  Why does he get a Security Clearance if he's retired?

Are you listening to yourself? Now, even you are talking like a trump cultist with this "Deep State" bullpoop.

Just about all top-officials from past administrations keep their security clearance status, just in case they are called and needed for advice on a military or other emergency matter.
It's been like that for many years.
Why is Brennan being targeted? It's obvious that it is retaliation from the Orange Narcissist Moron, because his feelings are hurt. That is how our president treats our national security. It's all dependent and based on who he likes and who licks his butt the most. That's it.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

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Why do these people have security clearances when they are retired?

Seriously, I didn't realize that all of these "retirees" keep their security clearances.  I read about things like this and I think of all these folks talking about the "Deep State".  Frankly, revoking Brennan's clearance is a needed cutting back of any Deep State we have.  He's retired.  Why does he get a Security Clearance if he's retired?

Are you listening to yourself? Now, even you are talking like a trump cultist with this "Deep State" bullpoop.

Just about all top-officials from past administrations keep their security clearance status, just in case they are called and needed for advice on a military or other emergency matter.
It's been like that for many years.
Why is Brennan being targeted? It's obvious that it is retaliation from the Orange Narcissist Moron, because his feelings are hurt. That is how our president treats our national security. It's all dependent and based on who he likes and who licks his butt the most. That's it.

I still question the practice.  If these guys are needed back, issue them a new security clearance.  But the idea that they KEEP them is something that is, quite frankly, Deep State-ish; it's the appearance of an unpaid shadow government whose "officials" have access to its latest secrets.  

[Calthrina950]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

What does Greenwald mean by this? This list seems to include a number of contradictions.

[ProudModerate2]

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Why do these people have security clearances when they are retired?

Seriously, I didn't realize that all of these "retirees" keep their security clearances.  I read about things like this and I think of all these folks talking about the "Deep State".  Frankly, revoking Brennan's clearance is a needed cutting back of any Deep State we have.  He's retired.  Why does he get a Security Clearance if he's retired?

Are you listening to yourself? Now, even you are talking like a trump cultist with this "Deep State" bullpoop.

Just about all top-officials from past administrations keep their security clearance status, just in case they are called and needed for advice on a military or other emergency matter.
It's been like that for many years.
Why is Brennan being targeted? It's obvious that it is retaliation from the Orange Narcissist Moron, because his feelings are hurt. That is how our president treats our national security. It's all dependent and based on who he likes and who licks his butt the most. That's it.

I still question the practice.  If these guys are needed back, issue them a new security clearance.  But the idea that they KEEP them is something that is, quite frankly, Deep State-ish; it's the appearance of an unpaid shadow government whose "officials" have access to its latest secrets.

Fuzzy,
They do NOT have access.
They just keep their status, so that if they are called and needed to help.
That is all.
You are reading to much rightist, nationalist, pro-tump warped websites. They want you to believe that it's about "Deep State," and you are falling for their bull.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

What does Greenwald mean by this? This list seems to include a number of contradictions.

I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't think it's contradictory to find it problematic for Brennan to lose his security clearance for ostensibly political purposes while also thinking that Brennan is representative of the reprehensible NatSec state and that intelligence professionals shouldn't monetize their security clearance.

[Calthrina950]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

What does Greenwald mean by this? This list seems to include a number of contradictions.

I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't think it's contradictory to find it problematic for Brennan to lose his security clearance for ostensibly political purposes while also thinking that Brennan is representative of the reprehensible NatSec state and that intelligence professionals shouldn't monetize their security clearance.

I was trying to gain clarification on what he meant, and it looks like he was summarizing his views on the matter. I also don't think that removing the clearance from Brennan was the right decision to take, and it was clearly politically motivated. And I agree with the view that Brennan should not be portrayed as "some hero" just because of his criticism of Trump.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

What does Greenwald mean by this? This list seems to include a number of contradictions.

I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't think it's contradictory to find it problematic for Brennan to lose his security clearance for ostensibly political purposes while also thinking that Brennan is representative of the reprehensible NatSec state and that intelligence professionals shouldn't monetize their security clearance.

I was trying to gain clarification on what he meant, and it looks like he was summarizing his views on the matter. I also don't think that removing the clearance from Brennan was the right decision to take, and it was clearly politically motivated. And I agree with the view that Brennan should not be portrayed as "some hero" just because of his criticism of Trump.

I think that's a reasonably accurate summation of Greenwald's view (and by extension, my own).

[Calthrina950]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1029860758987984896

What does Greenwald mean by this? This list seems to include a number of contradictions.

I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't think it's contradictory to find it problematic for Brennan to lose his security clearance for ostensibly political purposes while also thinking that Brennan is representative of the reprehensible NatSec state and that intelligence professionals shouldn't monetize their security clearance.

I was trying to gain clarification on what he meant, and it looks like he was summarizing his views on the matter. I also don't think that removing the clearance from Brennan was the right decision to take, and it was clearly politically motivated. And I agree with the view that Brennan should not be portrayed as "some hero" just because of his criticism of Trump.

I think that's a reasonably accurate summation of Greenwald's view (and by extension, my own).

Agreed. So far as I know, no other President in recent times has moved to deprive individuals of their clearances in this kind of manner.