WV-PPP: Manchin +7 without Blankenship, +11 with Blankenship
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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2018, 08:59:20 PM »

my question is why do 3% of Manchin voters either vote for Morrisey or Blankenship when Blankenship is on the ballot?
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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2018, 09:13:48 PM »

Jesus some of you people really hate RINO Tom.

No, RINO Tom is fine. It's his brother, Wino Tom, that's really unbearable.

Wow, guys, not sure Tom RINO can recover from that one ... might be Sock O’Clock.

How many socks are you up to now? 43? XD
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« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2018, 11:03:44 AM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 
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« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2018, 11:08:43 AM »

He and Angus King made a gentleman's agreement that they would stick together. Dems need to stick together, in case they get majority, they will block anymore appointments
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« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2018, 11:30:11 AM »

He and Angus King made a gentleman's agreement that they would stick together. Dems need to stick together, in case they get majority, they will block anymore appointments

Can gentlemen’s agreements ever be  broken?
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« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2018, 11:45:42 AM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 

Not with the Republican party growing increasingly reactionary and extreme. Manchin supports some gun control, is to the left of most Republicans on most social issues and definitely on economic issues. He was a Democrat while the main Republican contenders were Mitt Romney and John McCain, he won't bolt when it's controlled by extremists. And no, contrary to what you're probably going to respond, he won't bolt because Democrats are becoming "sjw socialists", because that's just not the case.
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« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2018, 12:11:59 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 

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« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2018, 12:46:02 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 

Few

What are the few?
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« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2018, 12:55:21 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 

Few

What are the few?
Being forced at gunpoint. He isn't switching, cut the circle jerk.
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« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2018, 01:13:23 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation.  

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One option I see is that if West Virginia becomes notably less open to voting for downballot Democrats in 2024, which for as downhill as it has gone for Democrats even now, it would have to be relatively big shift. I don't know whether Manchin would want to do that though, but it wouldn't be hard to rationalize to himself.

The problem with this is that Manchin is 70 years old, and he'll be ~76 when his seat comes up again. It is very reasonable to think that he might retire then, at which point Republicans will likely pick up his seat anyway.
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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2018, 01:19:07 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation.  

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One option I see is that if West Virginia becomes notably less open to voting for downballot Democrats in 2024, which for as downhill as it has gone for Democrats even now, it would have to be relatively big shift. I don't know whether Manchin would want to do that though, but it wouldn't be hard to rationalize to himself.

The problem with this is that Manchin is 70 years old, and he'll be ~76 when his seat comes up again. It is very reasonable to think that he might retire then, at which point Republicans will likely pick up his seat anyway.

If he gets re-elected, it's very likely his last term. There were quite a bit of rumors about him retiring this cycle, after all.
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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2018, 02:28:29 PM »

Is there any circumstances that might cause Manchin to bolt, if he is re-elected? By bolt I mean change party affiliation. 

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If almost all of the Democratic party leadership is completely washed out in primaries and Ocasio Cortez types begin to run the party from the top, I could see him shift, if he leads in no internals for 2024 as a dem but then polls himself as an R and is ahead, he might, if Schumer and Durbin somehow leave the scene and we get Reid types on steroids to do the whipping I could see a switch or retirement, just to name a few, but these all have low chances of occurring throughout the rest of Manchin's time, and heck, he probably won't even run in 2024.
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