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« Reply #1250 on: September 05, 2018, 06:42:03 PM »

The generic vote in Indiana in 2016 was understated for Rs based on Hollingsworth’s underperformance

Not to mention, there was no R on the ballot in IN-01 (just Visclosky and a Libertarian), while Dems had candidates on ballot in every district.  Had there been a Republican challenger in IN-01, Rs would've won the popular vote in Indiana by 18-19 points or so.  R+5 is a fine generic ballot result for Dems in Indiana.
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« Reply #1251 on: September 05, 2018, 06:53:25 PM »

Coleman beating Holding 45-44 in her internal!


http://amp.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article217851615.html?__twitter_impression=true

ps. sorry for the wrong link earlier.
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« Reply #1252 on: September 05, 2018, 06:59:04 PM »



Republicans won the house vote by 14 in 2016 and over 20 in 2014, for comparison.
As Indiana is R+9 in PVI, this shows that the nation is at D+4...not enough for a wave.

I don't think that's how it works, Republicans won Indiana's House elections in 2016 by 14.67%.  If right now it's R+5 then that's quite a swing.   I don't think they're comparing it to any national margin when they say R+5.
OK, even using House elections, the GOP (in raw votes) led by 1% throughout the nation in 2016, thus Indiana is about 13 points to the right of the nation. Thus, an  R+5 State GCB only translates to D+8 across the nation...not the double-digits everyone's been yapping about.
you failed math, right?
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« Reply #1253 on: September 05, 2018, 07:05:37 PM »

OK, even using House elections, the GOP (in raw votes) led by 1% throughout the nation in 2016, thus Indiana is about 13 points to the right of the nation. Thus, an  R+5 State GCB only translates to D+8 across the nation...not the double-digits everyone's been yapping about.

So... wait, are you agreeing that there will be a Democratic wave then? D+8 is absolutely a wave, and is likely to flip the House with seats to spare, not to mention the carnage at the state level. It's also a margin that many Atlas users generally agree on. Not "everyone" is "yapping" about double digit wins. I think there are a couple users off the top of my head who think we'll get there, but most of the time I just recall people (like myself) suggesting that low double digits, like D+10, seems possible in this environment, but not necessarily the most likely situation.
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« Reply #1254 on: September 05, 2018, 07:20:45 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2018, 07:35:08 PM by PittsburghSteel »

An internal for a Pennsylvania Democratic state rep candidate running for HD-38 has Lamb with a 13-point lead over Rothfus

Lamb (D): 54%
Rothfus (R): 41%

Also worth noting the Dem candidate, Lindsey Williams, whom the poll was commissioned for, has a 9-point advantage over the Republican candidate. It's a Clinton +0.5 district and is R-held, so blue wave in the PA state legislature looking likely. North Hills is a suburban area north of Pittsburgh, so this is another sign the suburbs are drastically moving away from the GOP.

Trump approval in the district is 37-58% disapprove



https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/internal-poll-shows-democrat-state-senate-nominee-lindsey-williams-with-9-point-lead-over-republican-jeremy-shaffer/Content?oid=10458165
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« Reply #1255 on: September 05, 2018, 08:11:49 PM »


I’m trying not to allow myself to get excited as we have two months left and this isn’t a great internal, but if Holding is “supposedly” not doing good in his internals either then I guess it could cautiously be taken as good news.
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« Reply #1256 on: September 06, 2018, 09:49:23 AM »

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« Reply #1257 on: September 06, 2018, 10:01:19 AM »

If the challenger is leading polls this far out...not good!
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« Reply #1258 on: September 06, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »

Where’s that Marist poll we were promised over an hour ago?
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« Reply #1259 on: September 06, 2018, 10:38:55 AM »

Where’s that Marist poll we were promised over an hour ago?
I think they usually release them at 5 eastern.
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« Reply #1260 on: September 06, 2018, 10:39:19 AM »

Where’s that Marist poll we were promised over an hour ago?

They get released at 5pm Eastern, which is 11pm here.
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« Reply #1261 on: September 06, 2018, 10:40:43 AM »

Where’s that Marist poll we were promised over an hour ago?

They get released at 5pm Eastern, which is 11pm here.

For some reason I thought they were releasing it at 10...
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« Reply #1262 on: September 06, 2018, 10:53:16 AM »

Yeah, not bad, this points to Craig winning, but I would have wanted something a little better.

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« Reply #1263 on: September 06, 2018, 11:30:10 AM »

538 has changed their GCB tracker to be less aggressive to swingy changes:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-a-new-less-volatile-version-of-our-generic-ballot-tracker/
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« Reply #1264 on: September 06, 2018, 11:44:54 AM »

Yeah, not bad, this points to Craig winning, but I would have wanted something a little better.


Yikes! Lean D at this point.
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« Reply #1265 on: September 06, 2018, 11:51:42 AM »


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« Reply #1266 on: September 06, 2018, 12:09:06 PM »

Here is the VanOstran poll, from Expedition Strategies
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« Reply #1267 on: September 06, 2018, 01:01:42 PM »

NALEO/Latino Decisions is starting a weekly tracking poll which has Generic Congressional ballot (for Latinos/Hispanics only)

http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2018/09/05/new-poll-finds-latino-voters-still-ignored-in-lead-up-to-election-2018/

http://www.latinodecisions.com/files/7915/3616/8320/LD-NALEO_2018_tracker_-_Week_1.pdf


Dem 63
Rep 21

Among likely voters ("Almost certain I will vote"):

Dem 70
Rep 22



Also, 67% say it is more important to vote in 2018 than it was in 2014.
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« Reply #1268 on: September 06, 2018, 02:14:43 PM »

ND-AL: Kelly Armstrong (R) internal shows him leading Mac Schneider (D) by 21 points:



Trump approval: 59/37 (+22)

Armstrong leading 63-20 in the Bismarck-Minot media market and 45-42 in Fargo-Grand Forks.
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« Reply #1269 on: September 06, 2018, 02:15:57 PM »

ND - Kelly Armstrong (R) internal showis him leading Schneider (D) by 21 points:



Trump approval: 59/37 (+22)

Armstrong leading 63-20 in the Bismarck-Minot media market and 45-42 in Fargo-Grand Forks.
Likely R, but Andrew will probably say "Horrible poll for Heitkamp" or something stupid like that. This race is totally different than ND-SEN (a "standard" Democrat in a red district.)
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« Reply #1270 on: September 06, 2018, 02:39:26 PM »

NALEO/Latino Decisions is starting a weekly tracking poll which has Generic Congressional ballot (for Latinos/Hispanics only)

http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2018/09/05/new-poll-finds-latino-voters-still-ignored-in-lead-up-to-election-2018/

http://www.latinodecisions.com/files/7915/3616/8320/LD-NALEO_2018_tracker_-_Week_1.pdf


Dem 63
Rep 21

Among likely voters ("Almost certain I will vote"):

Dem 70
Rep 22



Also, 67% say it is more important to vote in 2018 than it was in 2014.

That has got to be a new low for the GOP in their hispanic support.
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« Reply #1271 on: September 06, 2018, 02:40:45 PM »

Call me skeptical that Florida hispanics are going to save the GOP.
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« Reply #1272 on: September 06, 2018, 02:42:16 PM »

Call me skeptical that Florida hispanics are going to save the GOP.
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« Reply #1273 on: September 06, 2018, 02:45:27 PM »

According to the CNN exit poll for the national house race in 2014, the GOP won 36% of the hispanic vote, so this is a major erosion in their latino support.
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« Reply #1274 on: September 06, 2018, 02:47:27 PM »

Latino Decisions is already discredited, they claimed Trump only won 15% of the Hispanic vote in 2016, which by their own polling he is doing 40% better than that now. But our own reagente's county map calculations suggest the 2016 number is closer to 26%, and exit polls had 34%. And yes, Florida Hispanics will save the GOP. The Republicans got the golden ticket with DeSantis/Nunez while Gillum/King is the other side.
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