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Question: Should Britons be able to have a revote on Brexit?
#1
Briton: Yes
 
#2
Briton: No
 
#3
Non-Briton: Yes
 
#4
Non-Briton: No
 
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Total Voters: 161

Author Topic: Should There be a Revote on Brexit?  (Read 8038 times)
Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 24, 2018, 01:18:06 PM »

No, but parliament should stop Brexit anyway because nuanced policy shouldn't be decided by popular vote.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2018, 03:31:14 PM »

No, but parliament should stop Brexit anyway because nuanced policy shouldn't be decided by popular vote.
A referendum was the agreed way to do this.
Doesn't mean it should be. All laws and policies should be made by elected professional politicians.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 10:27:51 PM »

My own preference is that parliament -- the current one, and all later ones -- to simply ignore the referendum. It was just a campaign gimmick (a lot like Trump's wall) that no government need acknowledge. If it comes to it, jurists can discover or invent a Latin legal jargon to the effect that "Parliament refuses to smell a noisome odour."

Realistically, though, I agree with most everyone else here: there will be no second referendum. The thing is done.

This is correct. However, if popular democracy is going to be a thing (ick), there should be a referendum between May's deal and remaining in the European Union.

(Though part of me is really looking forward to the UK getting its economy smashed and becoming even more peripheral to world affairs until is comes crawling back to the EU begging for readmission with Schengen and the Euro.)
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
Blairite
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 07:26:07 PM »

My own preference is that parliament -- the current one, and all later ones -- to simply ignore the referendum. It was just a campaign gimmick (a lot like Trump's wall) that no government need acknowledge. If it comes to it, jurists can discover or invent a Latin legal jargon to the effect that "Parliament refuses to smell a noisome odour."

Realistically, though, I agree with most everyone else here: there will be no second referendum. The thing is done.

This is correct. However, if popular democracy is going to be a thing (ick), there should be a referendum between May's deal and remaining in the European Union.

(Though part of me is really looking forward to the UK getting its economy smashed and becoming even more peripheral to world affairs until is comes crawling back to the EU begging for readmission with Schengen and the Euro.)


Or they could try to pass a trade deal with the US similar to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Free_Trade_Agreement
The European Union is many times more important to the UK than America is.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
Blairite
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 11:18:25 AM »
« Edited: January 18, 2019, 11:51:48 AM by Michael Bloomberg »

tag yourself I'm wanting a foreign country's economy to be devastated so that that country will implement your preferred foreign and trade policies towards other foreign countries

Huh

Whom are you referring to?

Blairite, the Californian who's "looking forward to the UK getting its economy smashed".

I'm not genuinely looking forward to it (unlike some socialists who want liberal institutions to fall apart so they can implement all their favored policies), and it'll be a shame if/when it occurs. However, it could serve as a valuable wake up call to voters globally as to the results of their actions, and convince everyone else of the merits of liberal international institutions. British voters will get what they voted for, suffer a bit, then rejoin the EU within the decade with their insane ego taken down a couple pegs.

But at the simplest level:
Yes because Brexit is bad and therefore anything that could block it is good.
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