WaPo: White House to propose merging Labor and Education into one agency

[TheSaint250]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-to-unveil-plan-to-overhaul-federal-agencies/2018/06/20/da8b49fe-74ca-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.db06e3604954

[KingSweden]

Wouldn’t merging Labor and Commerce make more sense?

[TheSaint250]

Wouldn’t merging Labor and Commerce make more sense?

Yeah, that's what one would think. Education and Labor is just weird.

[Badger]

Wouldn’t merging Labor and Commerce make more sense?

Trump likely just picked two things he wanted to get rid of and figuring merging them would help get him halfway there.

[GeorgiaModerate]

No, it's obvious.  He wants the only public schools to be vocational schools.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Boooo

[Antonio the Sixth]

lol sure whatever

[hurricanehink]

It’s not the worst idea. There is a clear economic line from good education to better jobs. Education is basically a really protracted apprenticeship for people under 18. If the agencies were merged, then maybe school could do a better job preparing students for the adult work force, teaching vital skills like

• How to do your taxes
• Understanding and debating a contract
• Creativity
• Typing

[Sir Mohamed]

LOL, and what sense does that exactly make? It's like putting HHS and Interior together, totally laughable.

Didn't Drumpf propose to eliminate Education entirely during the 2016 campaign? Or did the master negotiator already give up on this?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Education is basically a really protracted apprenticeship for people under 18.

NO IT'S NOT

Considering education's purpose to be preparing for work is the hallmark of neoliberal dogma.

[Person Man]

I thought he was merging HHS with another Department, too. Some sort of "welfare" department.

[Politician]

Wouldn’t merging Labor and Commerce make more sense?

Trump likely just picked two things he wanted to get rid of and figuring merging them would help get him halfway there.

[NerdyBohemian]

Wow, you’d almost think Republicans hates labor and education and want to do whatever it takes to curb their power. Almost.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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Fixed it for accuracy. The first two paragraphs are generally applicable to most of what the administration of the coward Donald Trump (R-Moscow) does domestically.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

If there's any two cabinet departments that can be merged, it's Homeland and Defense. Maybe combining the two most wasteful departments will force some fiscal discipline on them.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

If there's any two cabinet departments that can be merged, it's Homeland and Defense. Maybe combining the two most wasteful departments will force some fiscal discipline on them.

I think Homeland Security - in addition to being an Orwellian nightmare in the making - is pointless and stupid. But I don't think it should be merged with anything. Giving the War Department (a much better and more honest name) any influence on domestic security (beyond basic co-ordination with the State militas) is just asking for trouble. DHS and TSA can just go away, and the other agencies can go back to where they were, including making FEMA independent again.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Education is basically a really protracted apprenticeship for people under 18.

NO IT'S NOT

Considering education's purpose to be preparing for work is the hallmark of neoliberal dogma.

Well it should be a primary purpose of public education. (The other of course is preparing children to be good citizens when they grow up, something Trump's teachers either never tried to do or failed miserably when it came to him.)

Now sometimes the best way to accomplish those goals is indirectly, which is why the arts should be a part of public education for all students. However, that doesn't mean we should be subsidizing the education of art history majors.

[CookieDamage]

Just an easier way to cripple both.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Education is basically a really protracted apprenticeship for people under 18.

NO IT'S NOT

Considering education's purpose to be preparing for work is the hallmark of neoliberal dogma.

Well it should be a primary purpose of public education. (The other of course is preparing children to be good citizens when they grow up, something Trump's teachers either never tried to do or failed miserably when it came to him.)

Now sometimes the best way to accomplish those goals is indirectly, which is why the arts should be a part of public education for all students. However, that doesn't mean we should be subsidizing the education of art history majors.

The primary purpose of education is to foster children's cultural, intellectual and moral flourishing and give them the tools they need to become well-rounded individuals as adults capable of making conscientious choices for themselves and the collectivity. Job training is not and should never be the goal. To claim otherwise is to pave the way for Brave New World.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Education is basically a really protracted apprenticeship for people under 18.

NO IT'S NOT

Considering education's purpose to be preparing for work is the hallmark of neoliberal dogma.

Well it should be a primary purpose of public education. (The other of course is preparing children to be good citizens when they grow up, something Trump's teachers either never tried to do or failed miserably when it came to him.)

Now sometimes the best way to accomplish those goals is indirectly, which is why the arts should be a part of public education for all students. However, that doesn't mean we should be subsidizing the education of art history majors.

The primary purpose of education is to foster children's cultural, intellectual and moral flourishing and give them the tools they need to become well-rounded individuals as adults capable of making conscientious choices for themselves and the collectivity. Job training is not and should never be the goal. To claim otherwise is to pave the way for Brave New World.

Spoken like a true Alpha minus.

There are many laudable things that it isn't the government's responsibility to pay for because of the simple reason that it can't pay for every laudable thing. The sort of broad education you advocate is very laudable but it is not and never has been something schools could accomplish all by themselves. It takes much more than a school to raise well-rounded young citizens.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Meh, at least it'd be better than the status quo.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Wouldn’t merging Labor and Commerce make more sense?

Trump likely just picked two things he wanted to get rid of and figuring merging them would help get him halfway there.

He got the idea after eating a  Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.

[dead0man]

now this is a good idea, but only if closes the new agency immediately.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Merging two departments can be done only by law, right?
So this is going to go nowhere in the senate.

[pbrower2a]

But education is more than training people to fit into entry jobs in organizations in which they have no real chance of advancement due to low glass ceilings . At best it us also teaching people how to seek and find meaning and purpose in life. Unless everyone is to start a business or pay is to be so low that people must work multiple jobs that ensure that they have no leisure, people will need to discover how to use their spare time.

70-hour workweeks is not my idea of what I consider 'making America great again'. It would be awful.