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The Other Castro
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« on: June 19, 2018, 10:01:28 PM »

Martha McSally - 39%
Kelli Ward - 25%
Joe Arpaio - 14%
Undecided - 22%

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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/393157-poll-mcsally-holds-14-point-lead-in-arizona-gop-senate-primary
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 10:07:52 PM »

Not gonna save the GOP.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 10:10:16 PM »

RIP the Arpaio fantasy. His collapse was entirely predictable. The odd part is that it doesn't seem to have benefitted Ward at all.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 10:30:31 PM »

I almost had a seizure until I saw this was in the primary, of course they did not include GE numbers since she is probably being smoked.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 10:33:10 PM »

It seems like McSally's just spending a lot more money than the other two, which isn't surprising.

Anyway, Sinema vs McSally is certainly going to be a fun race because both of them have a record of flip-flopping and changing positions the way the political wind is blowing.

Martha "I support DACA" McSally vs Kyrsten "Prada Socialist" Sinema. Hoo boy.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2018, 11:10:42 PM »

It seems like McSally's just spending a lot more money than the other two, which isn't surprising.

Anyway, Sinema vs McSally is certainly going to be a fun race because both of them have a record of flip-flopping and changing positions the way the political wind is blowing.

Martha "I support DACA" McSally vs Kyrsten "Prada Socialist" Sinema. Hoo boy.

Yes, although their attack lines against each other are limited because they vote the same way about 60% of the time in Congress.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 06:36:12 AM »

Likely D, even with McSally; Safe D with Arpaio or Ward.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 09:42:40 AM »
« Edited: June 20, 2018, 09:54:14 AM by UWS »

It seems like McSally's just spending a lot more money than the other two, which isn't surprising.

Anyway, Sinema vs McSally is certainly going to be a fun race because both of them have a record of flip-flopping and changing positions the way the political wind is blowing.

Martha "I support DACA" McSally vs Kyrsten "Prada Socialist" Sinema. Hoo boy.

I think Sinema is kind of overated. I think McSally can actually win. After all, Arizona has voted Democrat only once since 1952 in presidential elections (with Bill Clinton in 1996) and has not elected a Democrat at the U.S. Senate since 1988 when Dennis DeConcini won a third term. That's a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona#Political_culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arizona,_1988

And I guess McSally could take an advantage against Sinema on foreign policy since even after 9/11, the deadliest attack that was orchestrated against the United States, she has said that military action is an inappropriate response to terrorism and in bringing Osama Bin Laden to justice and yet military action is exactly what contributed to the successful operation that killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011. So I think it could be an effective attack by McSally against Sinema whether it's in attack ads or on the campaign trail by questioning Kyrsten Sinema's foreign policy judgement and describing her as weak on terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrsten_Sinema#Foreign_policy

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 10:50:06 AM »

Faux "moderate" McSally has a chance in the general, because a lot of people care more about how moderate a candidate appears rather than their actual votes, stances, or public statements. I still think Sinema is favored, though, since McSally is certainly not the unbeatable titan (like Dean Heller) that Republicans think she is.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 12:28:09 PM »

I almost had a seizure until I saw this was in the primary, of course they did not include GE numbers since she is probably being smoked.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 12:35:23 PM »

It seems like McSally's just spending a lot more money than the other two, which isn't surprising.

Anyway, Sinema vs McSally is certainly going to be a fun race because both of them have a record of flip-flopping and changing positions the way the political wind is blowing.

Martha "I support DACA" McSally vs Kyrsten "Prada Socialist" Sinema. Hoo boy.

I think Sinema is kind of overated. I think McSally can actually win. After all, Arizona has voted Democrat only once since 1952 in presidential elections (with Bill Clinton in 1996) and has not elected a Democrat at the U.S. Senate since 1988 when Dennis DeConcini won a third term. That's a long time



Janet napalitano won a landslide, and energy is def on Dems side in AZ. Especially with our education crisis. I don’t want to justify predictions based on trends, I mean Wisconsin and Michigan voted for democrats for a very long time until the past decade. McSally is a good candidate, but this could be a case of “good candidate bad cycle”
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2018, 07:45:28 AM »

Obviously great news purely in terms of optics, though it is unlikely to matter much in the end. Still, if the midterm elections become (unlikely) much more competitive than predicted, this will help.
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