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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« on: August 31, 2022, 12:32:11 PM »

So is Meloni likely to be the next PM?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 05:43:40 AM »

This is going to be the Italian version of SaintStan's A Blank Canvas isn't it.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2022, 12:39:07 PM »

I wonder what the 538 odds would be for who wins here.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2022, 04:31:03 AM »

Any hope the far right won't return to power?Any hope at all?

The Right coalition is near-certain of victory at this point. The only question is if they will get the 2/3 supermajority to do what they want without referendum.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2022, 04:28:16 PM »

Well ouch. With Sweden it seems that Europe is shifting right.

Both Italy and Sweden had migrant controversies, could this be more backlash?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2022, 04:37:16 PM »

Fascismo leading with 83 votes in.

Are these 2 precincts Italian Dixville Notch or something?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2022, 04:40:37 PM »

5/60,399

RIGHT: 165 (61.34%)
LEFT: 41 (15.24%)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2022, 04:48:11 PM »

SENATE:

18/60,399

RIGHT: 633 (58.13%)
LEFT: 252 (23.14%)

HOUSE:

1/61,417

LEFT: 26 (52.00%)
RIGHT: 12 (24.00%)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2022, 04:54:37 PM »

SENATE:

34/60,399

RIGHT: 2,109 (58.12%)
LEFT: 836 (23.04%)

HOUSE:

3/61,417

RIGHT: 103 (56.28%)
LEFT: 41 (22.40%)


Interesting the first precinct (poll? circumscription? commune?) on the official site is a PD lead one from Reggio Emilia.

Sezioni, which is plural of 'divided/fraction' methinks.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2022, 05:00:45 PM »

SENATE:

73/60,399

RIGHT: 4,941 (54.06%)
LEFT: 2,152 (23.55%)

HOUSE:

6/61,417

RIGHT: 231 (51.33%)
LEFT: 106 (23.56%)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2022, 05:06:36 PM »

SENATE:

149/60,399

RIGHT: 31,111 (51.01%)
LEFT: 6,023 (23.43%)

HOUSE:

6/61,417

RIGHT: 231 (51.33%)
LEFT: 106 (23.56%)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2022, 05:21:00 PM »

Yeah yeah, I know everyone hates me. But I thought I'd post another update since Facismo is under 50% and we have 500 sezionis declared.

SENATE:

503/60,399

RIGHT: 55,384 (48.44%)
LEFT: 30,644 (26.80%)

HOUSE:

26/61,417

RIGHT: 994 (48.42%)
LEFT: 489 (23.82%)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2022, 05:42:03 PM »

500,000 votes counted

SENATE:

1,730/60,399

RIGHT: 243,965 (47.59%)
LEFT: 138,372 (26.99%)
M5S: 60,371 (11.78%)

HOUSE:

173/61,417

RIGHT: 11,647 (47.47%)
LEFT: 6,290 (25.64%)
M5S: 2,858 (11.65%)
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Political Matrix
E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2022, 05:52:33 PM »

1,000,000 votes counted

SENATE:

3,215/60,399

RIGHT: 478,967 (45.51%)
LEFT: 299,562 (28.46%)
M5S: 126,257 (12.00%)

HOUSE:

282/61,417

RIGHT: 22,454 (46.96%)
LEFT: 12,276 (25.67%)
M5S: 5,701 (11.92%)
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Political Matrix
E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2022, 06:11:34 PM »

2,000,000 votes counted

SENATE:

5,719/60,399

RIGHT: 925,793 (45.49%)
LEFT: 571,395 (28.07%)
M5S: 252,963 (12.43%)

HOUSE:

898/61,417

RIGHT: 93,398 (43.94%)
LEFT: 58,738 (27.64%)
M5S: 29,499 (13.88%)
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Political Matrix
E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2022, 06:45:26 PM »

5,000,000 votes counted

SENATE:

13,031/60,399

RIGHT: 2,235,801 (44.44%)
LEFT: 1,376,179 (27.36%)
M5S: 723,834 (14.39%)

HOUSE:

3,349/61,417

RIGHT: 436,339 (42.55%)
LEFT: 280,099 (27.32%)
M5S: 158,731 (15.48%)
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Political Matrix
E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2022, 06:55:40 PM »

5,000,000 votes counted

SENATE:

13,031/60,399

RIGHT: 2,235,801 (44.44%)
LEFT: 1,376,179 (27.36%)
M5S: 723,834 (14.39%)

HOUSE:

3,349/61,417

RIGHT: 436,339 (42.55%)
LEFT: 280,099 (27.32%)
M5S: 158,731 (15.48%)
Is it just me or is the Right slowly declining in vote share?

PD Senate candidate now leading in Emilia-Romagna 3 which covers Bologna and a bit else. They have also gained ground in neighboring seats so yeah, the cities (and the south) are coming in slower.
Good news for the left then. A right-wing government might not even be necessarily inevitable?

Probably a bit too late at this point.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2022, 08:33:42 PM »

Is it certain that Meloni will be the next PM? Wasn't Draghi and independent?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2022, 11:50:25 PM »

LOL The Atlantic:

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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2022, 12:16:14 AM »

Man between mass-cleansing Mateo and home volcano Berlusconi this new government is going to be great.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2022, 02:34:29 PM »

When does Meloni take over? I remember it took like three months to decide on Conte after 2018 but with such as big win it might be different?
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2022, 11:32:53 AM »

Ignazio La Russa (FdI) was elected president of the Senate - crucially, without FI votes. Berlusconi still seemed to coveting that position, either for himself or for a fellow party member, and so attempted to make a power play by withdrawing his Senators from the vote. As it turned out, however, enough Senators from opposition parties ended up voting for La Russa anyway. Voting was secret, so we won't know who actually voted for La Russa, but regardless that's a pretty stinging humiliation for Berlusconi and an early victory for Meloni.

Tomorrow the House will elect its own president, and this time there seems to be a broad agreement for a Leghista. Once that's over with, government negotiations will begin in earnest.

Berlusconi lol

The John Oliver piece on him was illuminating (it also included Renzi)
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2022, 06:42:02 AM »


Everything Meloni is saying is correct. I'm unsure why this is funny. Particularly to someone who should be 'anti-imperialist'.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2022, 08:42:19 AM »


Everything Meloni is saying is correct. I'm unsure why this is funny. Particularly to someone who should be 'anti-imperialist'.

oh, we've got an international political economy expert in chat Roll Eyes

Frankly the workings of the Franc CFA system are beyond me as they're beyond like 95% of this forum. I'm sure it's exploitative in some way (like almost all dealings between developed and developing countries are), but no, it doesn't work like Meloni says it does, and there are reasons why these countries (many of which are on pretty bad terms with France right now) find it preferable to having their own national currecy.

They find it preferable because France makes up a gargantuan amount of their trade. Really you are just proving my point. They can't stop using it because France has that much control.
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E: 3.41, S: -1.29

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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2022, 07:41:29 AM »

Why is Meloni going up in the polls? Her average has risen to nearly 30% (almost 1/6 an increase) after two months. I don't think she's done anything positive of note yet, although someone more well-versed on Italian politics can correct me if I'm wrong.
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