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« Reply #1825 on: October 22, 2022, 07:12:30 AM »

Meloni has sworn in. The Girlboss Era has begun.
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« Reply #1826 on: October 22, 2022, 09:06:48 AM »

I am surprised it took so little. But perhaps I should not, since our Right tends to fall in line pretty easily in the end.
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« Reply #1827 on: October 22, 2022, 11:06:57 AM »

I am surprised it took so little. But perhaps I should not, since our Right tends to fall in line pretty easily in the end.

Yeah, at the end of the day the power dynamics were clear from the start, and Salvini and Berlusconi were both sensible enough to realize that causing a stir would only make their position weaker. All in all, a remarkably "normal" government formation process among parties with some divergences but broadly ideologically aligned. This normality is itself remarkable given both Italy's recent history and what's going on in Some Other countries right now, of course.
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« Reply #1828 on: October 23, 2022, 05:55:02 AM »

This morning Draghi and Meloni had a long chat at Palazzo Chigi, following which the traditional ceremony of the bell was held (the previous President of the Council hands a small ringing bell to the new one, symbolizing the transition of power from one government to the other). Later today there should be the first Council of Ministers led by Meloni.
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« Reply #1829 on: October 26, 2022, 05:32:23 AM »

Last night the House voted confidence in Meloni, 235 to 154. Today it will be the turn of the Senate.
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« Reply #1830 on: October 26, 2022, 04:19:22 PM »

Last night the House voted confidence in Meloni, 235 to 154. Today it will be the turn of the Senate.

And the Senate followed suit, 115-79.

So today Meloni is PM in the fullest of her capacities. Now we'll finally get to see her true face.
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« Reply #1831 on: October 31, 2022, 02:19:03 PM »

The new Italian Govtm ended all COVID-19 Restrictions. So good to see. Wish we could do that in the USA.
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« Reply #1832 on: October 31, 2022, 02:21:38 PM »

The new Italian Govtm ended all COVID-19 Restrictions. So good to see. Wish we could do that in the USA.

Not sure where you live but I haven't encountered COVID restrictions in months now. Even at the hospital the other day there were some unmasked folks and no one bothered them.
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« Reply #1833 on: October 31, 2022, 02:23:18 PM »

The new Italian Govtm ended all COVID-19 Restrictions. So good to see. Wish we could do that in the USA.

Not sure where you live but I haven't encountered COVID restrictions in months now. Even at the hospital the other day there were some unmasked folks and no one bothered them.
He isn’t American.
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« Reply #1834 on: October 31, 2022, 02:29:35 PM »

fwiw Meloni has already backtracked on this and will keep certain restrictions in place for now. Still, yeah, she's clearly throwing a bone to these types of people.
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« Reply #1835 on: October 31, 2022, 03:47:03 PM »

What restrictions are there still in place in Italy in the first place anyways? At least here only one I can think of is "masks in public transit and hospitals", which doesn't seem like removing it would be all that radical.
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« Reply #1836 on: October 31, 2022, 04:30:46 PM »

just only mask in hospitals
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« Reply #1837 on: November 01, 2022, 10:22:10 AM »

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The new government of far-right PM Giorgia Meloni has said it will make staging unlicensed raves a crime, hours after stopping one in northern Italy.

The new crime of "invasion for dangerous gatherings" of more than 50 people would attract up to six years in jail and opens up the possibility of wiretapping rave organisers.

A thousand ravers were ordered to leave a warehouse rave in Modena on Monday.

"The party's over!" declared far-right minister Matteo Salvini.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63468598
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« Reply #1838 on: November 01, 2022, 10:26:41 AM »

Yep. Here it begins.
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« Reply #1839 on: November 01, 2022, 12:05:51 PM »

Nothing we need more than a government and a news cycle focused on a rave party in Modena and students occupying classrooms in La Sapienza University...
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« Reply #1840 on: November 01, 2022, 02:56:36 PM »


*not that I endorse dangerous raves liable to become death traps in cases of fire.
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« Reply #1841 on: November 01, 2022, 06:16:30 PM »

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The new government of far-right PM Giorgia Meloni has said it will make staging unlicensed raves a crime, hours after stopping one in northern Italy.

The new crime of "invasion for dangerous gatherings" of more than 50 people would attract up to six years in jail and opens up the possibility of wiretapping rave organisers.

A thousand ravers were ordered to leave a warehouse rave in Modena on Monday.

"The party's over!" declared far-right minister Matteo Salvini.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63468598

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the Mussolini march had not disrupted public order and had been happening for years

damn, the wording of that

*chef's kiss*


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« Reply #1842 on: November 02, 2022, 07:42:44 AM »

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The new government of far-right PM Giorgia Meloni has said it will make staging unlicensed raves a crime, hours after stopping one in northern Italy.

The new crime of "invasion for dangerous gatherings" of more than 50 people would attract up to six years in jail and opens up the possibility of wiretapping rave organisers.

A thousand ravers were ordered to leave a warehouse rave in Modena on Monday.

"The party's over!" declared far-right minister Matteo Salvini.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63468598

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the Mussolini march had not disrupted public order and had been happening for years

damn, the wording of that

*chef's kiss*

This is actually interesting because Predappio was a left-wing stronghold until the other day - although with a historically high MSI/AN vote - and the current municipal administration elected in 2019 is the first not from the left in forever. It is clear that they're bothered (including the incumbent mayor) by nostalgics in black shirts coming to town to march on various anniversaries, but I'm not sure they can... stop them if the prefecture/Viminal gives the green light. At the same time for the rest of the year Predappio is still a place which is famous for exactly one thing and many of its touristic or cultural opportunities are inevitably and perhaps consciously related to it (alternatively, you can enjoy Sangiovese di Romagna wine I guess).
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« Reply #1843 on: November 05, 2022, 11:40:09 AM »

We finally have mapparoma's analysis and data for 2022: https://www.mapparoma.info/mappe/mapparoma38-elezioni-politiche-2022-il-centrodestra-vince-sulle-divisioni-di-centrosinistra-e-m5s/

It confirms at a much greater level of detail what we already knew: the PD and the centre-left in general (interestingly even +E had a much flatter electorate than 2018) lost heavily in the richest districts while gaining significant amounts in working class peripheries, the right-wing electorate moved downscale thanks to the absorption of a lot of former M5S voters, all compensated by A/IV whose support tracks with affluence and education to an extent that's eye-popping and doesn't resemble this year's CSX all that much... and even how M5S shifted slightly more towards a "left-wing" electorate while collapsing (for instance it did a hair better in the Garbatella than in the uber right-wing countryside of Boccea, very unlike 2018).
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« Reply #1844 on: November 07, 2022, 05:57:28 AM »

Letizia Moratti, after resigning from the post of regional vice-president of Lombardy, just announced her candidacy for president (elections in early 2023) with Calenzi. This is very funny on multiple levels, not just the effective about-face but the fact that she is the most recent mayor of Milan from the right (2006-2011) and her rich person's rich person biography - businesswoman who is the daughter of an aristocrat and the widow of an oil magnate.

In other words, Tory runs with Tory party for leadership of wealthiest region?
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« Reply #1845 on: November 20, 2022, 07:13:35 AM »




 anti-colonialist Giorgia Meloni.

(Also the first time I have understood her particular charisma)
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« Reply #1846 on: November 20, 2022, 01:38:26 PM »




 anti-colonialist Giorgia Meloni.

(Also the first time I have understood her particular charisma)


Based beyond belief.

Nothing good has come out of France since the 5th century. The country is a disgrace on so many levels. Meloni is fantastic.
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« Reply #1847 on: November 20, 2022, 01:47:34 PM »

lol
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« Reply #1848 on: November 20, 2022, 07:15:38 PM »

France-Italy banter has reached heights not seen since Italy signed a pact with Prussia in the 19th century.
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« Reply #1849 on: November 21, 2022, 07:04:31 AM »

Meloni (and probably other parts of the hard right, less sure about that) has long railed against the CFA franc and related neo-colonialism, yes. In fact there are probably as many Italians who know what the CFA franc is as there are French people.

In other news, the PD primaries have been set for February 19th - a much faster schedule than what went on in 2018/2019. I have low expectations about the whole process, expectations that are lowered every day by the media trying to promote a Bonaccini vs Schlein horse race and party voters seemingly being into nonsense like a change of name and the polls being what they are. I'll think about Lombardy and Lazio (!) instead.
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