Italian Elections and Politics 2022 - Our Time to Schlein

[FrancoAgo]

if the right coalition broke up after this allora ne è valsa la pena
and i don't see  needs of the rush for elect the new president Mattarella first term end the 3rd February and also if there hadn't be a new president-elect, we have the senato president for this work (like US vice-president)

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, round 8 has begun, and by all accounts it should be a landslide for Mattarella.

He really should have told the parties to f**k off and get their act together. But oh well. He has more sense of duty than this country deserves.

[Mike88]

There counting right now, right?

[Antonio the Sixth]

There counting right now, right?

About to begin.

[Mike88]

There counting right now, right?

About to begin.

Let's see if it's the final one.

[Antonio the Sixth]

There counting right now, right?

About to begin.

Let's see if it's the final one.

It should be. Mattarella is expected to get over 800 votes.

Edit: here it starts.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Live count here: https://www.la7.it/dirette-tv

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

He should let them re-elect him and then either immediately resign or dissolve parliament and then resign.

[Mike88]

There counting right now, right?

About to begin.

Let's see if it's the final one.

It should be. Mattarella is expected to get over 800 votes.

Yeah, I'm watching a live feed of the count, and the Counting Chair says Mattarella's name over and over again as each ballot is given to him.

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

There counting right now, right?

About to begin.

Let's see if it's the final one.

It should be. Mattarella is expected to get over 800 votes.

Yeah, I'm watching a live feed of the count, and the Counting Chair says Mattarella's name over and over again as each ballot is given to him.

[Antonio the Sixth]

He should let them re-elect him and then either immediately resign or dissolve parliament and then resign.

That would be the ultimate troll move. If only...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Mattarella just crossed 300 votes with about 400 votes counted. A bit more scattered votes than anticipated, so at this point it looks like he'll be around 750 rather than 800.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Mattarella crossed 505. Here we go, it's official.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It's done. 759 votes for Mattarella.

[President Johnson]

I wonder whether he'll serve the full seven year term or pull a Napolitano and resign in a year or two?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Full Round 8 results:

Sergio Mattarella 759
Carlo Nordio 90
Nino Di Matteo 37
Silvio Berlusconi 9
Elisabetta Belloni 6
Mario Draghi 5
Pier Ferdinando Casini 5
Maria Elisabetta Alberti Casellati 4
Others 32

Blank 25
Null 13
Didn't vote 24

[Antonio the Sixth]

I wonder whether he'll serve the full seven year term or pull a Napolitano and resign in a year or two?

That's the big question. I sure hope he doesn't resign when the right-wing parties have a majority, because it would be the nightmare scenario.

[Flyersfan232]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

[Antonio the Sixth]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

Yeah, the very last thing Italy needs is more personalization of politics.

[Flyersfan232]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

couple of royal families doing nothing

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

A significant number of people would favour a semi-presidential or presidential republic, but I would think that's been the case since at least the time of Mani pulite or so, therefore I doubt this will actually lead to anything in the foreseeable future.

[Flyersfan232]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

couple of royal families doing nothing

Speaking of this what is the monarchist scene like now a days

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

will they be push for a directly elected president after this?

I hope not considering the nature of the Italian presidency, but never underestimate the stupidity of institutional reform ideas in il bel paese.

couple of royal families doing nothing

Speaking of this what is the monarchist scene like now a days

Uhm... pretty much entirely irrelevant, same as it's been for many decades? I think it's possible that the death of Amedeo of Savoy-Aosta half a year ago could have affected the dynastic dispute between his line (now represented by his son Aimone) and the direct line represented by Vittorio Emanuele (son of Umberto II), but I have no idea since these circles are very fringe and I know next to nothing about them.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Italia Viva (Renzi) and Coraggio Italia (Toti) have just announced that they will form a single parliamentary group, which is the first step towards their union in a single political force which is expected to take the name of Italia al Centro. Also included are among others Riccardo Nencini's PSI (currently sitting with IV) and Gaetano Quagliariello's IdeA (currently sitting with CI).

'There are too many minor centrist parties in Italy. Please eliminate three. I am not a crackpot!'

Well now we are down to two. I suppose we could get down to one in the not so distant future if IV and CI actually form their own "federation" as well, but who knows.

And now we are down to one! Congratulations to Heat I guess.