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« on: June 11, 2018, 07:40:59 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 07:42:02 PM »

Likely D->Safe D
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 08:31:16 PM »

He ain't completely wrong... but he shouldn't have been dumb enough to say this.
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 08:41:00 PM »

Yes he is. White people are not oppressed (which was what he was getting at).
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 08:44:14 PM »

Isn't this to Republican party line on this topic?
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 08:48:02 PM »

He ain't completely wrong... but he shouldn't have been dumb enough to say this.

In what way is he right? The entire point many progressives are making is that the Constitution *should* apply equally to everyone, but for a variety of reasons *hasnt*.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2018, 08:59:00 PM »

Was the NJGOP really not able to recruit *anyone* better than this guy?

he won a competitive primary against the guy who lied about being a millionaire and another candidate who used to be a state assemblyman who i guess made no traction.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 09:10:49 PM »

Wreck him van Drew.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2018, 09:27:12 PM »

In my 50 years, I've learned there are two kinds of white people-- those who can cope with being around a wide variety of races and cultures and those who can't.  Trump has merely made those who can't more willing to be vocal.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2018, 09:55:40 PM »

Actually, there are few things more American than diversity.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2018, 09:58:18 PM »

Welp. Unendorsed.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2018, 10:04:43 PM »

This man is gross
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2018, 10:10:22 PM »

Likely D --> Titanium D
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2018, 10:18:59 PM »

No one will remember or care by November. If Grossman ends up losing, he was going to lose all along.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2018, 10:29:44 PM »


i c wut u did thar
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2018, 11:09:33 PM »

Be surprised now, but this is the GOP’s future. Their campaign slogan already may as well be “Diversity is code for white genocide.”
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2018, 12:45:42 AM »

Someone needs to tell Seth Grossman that there was once a time in which members of his ethnicity weren't seen as white and were persecuted left and right.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2018, 01:59:17 AM »

The law should apply equally to everyone. For the same reasons that police brutality and the criminal justice system require reform, so too does affirmative action. That doesn’t mean they are remotely comparable injustices however.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2018, 07:47:00 AM »

He ain't completely wrong... but he shouldn't have been dumb enough to say this.
In what way is he right? The entire point many progressives are making is that the Constitution *should* apply equally to everyone, but for a variety of reasons *hasnt*.
Diversity is not an American tenet. It isn't a value of our country, and it had nothing significant to do with the founding of our country. It isn't necessarily something to celebrate. Not that it's a bad thing, but it often times leads to unnecessary racial tension & conflict.

Progressives idolize "diversity" as some glorious goal to strive for; what this does is reduce the sum total of a person to his/her skin color, gender, and/or religion. In a sense it objectifies people, treating them not as a human with a unique personality and character but rather as a token that is worth more or less based on its physical attributes.  
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2018, 08:26:42 AM »

Likely D---> Safe D. Guaranteed pickup. Dems literally don't have to even put resources here, and if the GOP has somehow not triaged this out yet, now would be a very appropriate time. GOP should give up on this seat, it's gone, and probably just dethroned FL 27th as highest chance for changing parties this fall.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2018, 08:28:39 AM »

Also, Mr. Grossman's name is quite appropriate for a man of his caliber.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2018, 08:48:50 AM »

He ain't completely wrong... but he shouldn't have been dumb enough to say this.
In what way is he right? The entire point many progressives are making is that the Constitution *should* apply equally to everyone, but for a variety of reasons *hasnt*.
Diversity is not an American tenet. It isn't a value of our country, and it had nothing significant to do with the founding of our country. It isn't necessarily something to celebrate. Not that it's a bad thing, but it often times leads to unnecessary racial tension & conflict.

Progressives idolize "diversity" as some glorious goal to strive for; what this does is reduce the sum total of a person to his/her skin color, gender, and/or religion. In a sense it objectifies people, treating them not as a human with a unique personality and character but rather as a token that is worth more or less based on its physical attributes.  

Your second paragraph is a good argument against intersectional theory (and I agree with the broad strokes), but that’s not really the same thing as diversity itself and so it still doesn’t quite defend Grossman’s comments. There’s a distinction between the “diversity for its own sake” campus progressivism and American pluralism, which is its own type of diversity.
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2018, 08:50:56 AM »

I already thought this race was on the edge of Safe D, and this pretty much seals it.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2018, 10:36:49 AM »

Likely D---> Safe D. Guaranteed pickup. Dems literally don't have to even put resources here, and if the GOP has somehow not triaged this out yet, now would be a very appropriate time. GOP should give up on this seat, it's gone, and probably just dethroned FL 27th as highest chance for changing parties this fall.
Isn't that PA 5th?
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2018, 11:31:38 AM »

Likely D---> Safe D. Guaranteed pickup. Dems literally don't have to even put resources here, and if the GOP has somehow not triaged this out yet, now would be a very appropriate time. GOP should give up on this seat, it's gone, and probably just dethroned FL 27th as highest chance for changing parties this fall.
Isn't that PA 5th?

Oh yeah, nvm.
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