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IceSpear
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« on: May 17, 2018, 06:43:32 PM »

Not sure why there's so many scorching hot takes in this thread. Pretty much everyone thought this was a toss up, and a poll...shows it as a toss up.

And for the statistically illiterate, Braun +1 is no different than Donnelly +1.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 11:13:58 PM »

Gravis is not as bad as everyone says and they are one of the only pollsters to actually poll these harder states, they also nailed the 2016 Nevada result btw, but all of that aside, here is what the 2016 Senate polls looked like:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/in/indiana_senate_young_vs_bayh-6003.html


Looks like they overestimated Bayh by 13 points.

Lol at comparing this to 2016....there is no boogie man Obama in the White House or Hillary on the ballot.

Those 2 were the only thing motivating GOP voters in 2016.
Don't forget the Supreme Court. If Scalia had lived until November 2016, Trump would have lost.

I doubt the Supreme Court had any effect. Two-Thirds Of Americans Can’t Name ONE Supreme Court Justice (POLL)

Haha, good lord. Americans are even dumber than I thought, and that's saying something. Democracy is a failed experiment.
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IceSpear
Atlas Superstar
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Posts: 31,840
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 11:18:28 PM »

Gravis is not as bad as everyone says and they are one of the only pollsters to actually poll these harder states, they also nailed the 2016 Nevada result btw, but all of that aside, here is what the 2016 Senate polls looked like:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/in/indiana_senate_young_vs_bayh-6003.html


Looks like they overestimated Bayh by 13 points.

Lol at comparing this to 2016....there is no boogie man Obama in the White House or Hillary on the ballot.

Those 2 were the only thing motivating GOP voters in 2016.
Don't forget the Supreme Court. If Scalia had lived until November 2016, Trump would have lost.

I doubt the Supreme Court had any effect. Two-Thirds Of Americans Can’t Name ONE Supreme Court Justice (POLL)

Haha, good lord. Americans are even dumber than I thought, and that's saying something. Democracy is a failed experiment.

It gets worse:

From the article:

"Only one percent could name all nine members."

So Atlas posters are in the top 1% of political awareness, yet people here continue to pretend irrelevant sh**t that we overreact to is going to matter to Generic American who will forget it in a week, assuming they even heard it to begin with.
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IceSpear
Atlas Superstar
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Posts: 31,840
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 11:46:07 PM »

Gravis is not as bad as everyone says and they are one of the only pollsters to actually poll these harder states, they also nailed the 2016 Nevada result btw, but all of that aside, here is what the 2016 Senate polls looked like:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/in/indiana_senate_young_vs_bayh-6003.html


Looks like they overestimated Bayh by 13 points.

Lol at comparing this to 2016....there is no boogie man Obama in the White House or Hillary on the ballot.

Those 2 were the only thing motivating GOP voters in 2016.
Don't forget the Supreme Court. If Scalia had lived until November 2016, Trump would have lost.

I doubt the Supreme Court had any effect. Two-Thirds Of Americans Can’t Name ONE Supreme Court Justice (POLL)

Haha, good lord. Americans are even dumber than I thought, and that's saying something. Democracy is a failed experiment.

It gets worse:

From the article:

"Only one percent could name all nine members."

So Atlas posters are in the top 1% of political awareness, yet people here continue to pretend irrelevant sh**t that we overreact to is going to matter to Generic American who will forget it in a week, assuming they even heard it to begin with.

Because ironically, the most informed voters are often the most badly misled:

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We're doomed

The idea pushed by the pundits and those with "faith in the electorate" that American voters take the time to carefully consider and weigh facts and opinions in their mind before voting needs to die yesterday. It has zero basis in reality.
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