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nini2287
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« on: September 24, 2005, 12:03:32 PM »



discuss new mexico.

The PV margin for Gore was closer than Florida in 2000 and it voted for Bush but below the national average in 2004.

It has only missed voting for the popular vote winner once since statehood-in 1976, where Ford won by a mere 2.5%
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2005, 02:57:22 PM »

the state is pure tossup and will likely continue to be one.

it does have a bit of a populist tilt, however.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2005, 03:36:39 PM »

NM will be a swing state for at least a few more elections, i think.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 03:58:59 PM »

It's overall populist because of hispanics, but the "little texas" part of it is maked by libertarian-conservatism.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2005, 04:36:58 PM »

I think Preston pretty much nailed this.

Democrats in New Mexico tend to be populist, while Republicans tend to libertarian.  This is not rare, especially in Republican rural areas, but this is one of the few examples when it is statewide.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2005, 06:04:28 PM »

1912: Wilson wins nationwide 41.84-27.40-23.17-5.99, and NM 41.39-16.90-35.91-5.79
1916: Wilson wins nationwide 49.24-46.12, and NM 50.20-46.64
1920: Harding wins nationwide 60.32-34.15, and NM 54.68-44.27
1924: Coolidge wins nationwide 54.04-28.82-16.61, and NM 48.52-43.02-8.46
1928: Hoover wins nationwide 58.21-40.80, and NM 59.01-40.85
1932: Roosevelt wins nationwide 57.41-39.65, and NM 62.62-35.76
1936: Roosevelt wins nationwide 60.80-36.54, and NM 62.69-36.50
1940: Roosevelt wins nationwide 54.74-44.78, and NM 56.59-43.28
1944: Roosevelt wins nationwide 53.39-45.89, and NM 53.47-46.44
1948: Truman wins nationwide 49.55-45.07, and NM 56.38-42.93
1952: Eisenhower wins nationwide 55.18-44.33, and NM 55.39-44.28
1956: Eisenhower wins nationwide 57.37-41.97, and NM 57.81-41.78
1960: Kennedy wins nationwide 49.72-49.55, and NM 50.15-49.41
1964: Johnson wins nationwide 61.05-38.47, and NM 59.22-40.24
1968: Nixon wins nationwide 43.42-42.72-13.53, and NM 51.85-39.75-7.86
1972: Nixon wins nationwide 60.67-37.52, and NM 61.05-36.56
1976: Carter wins nationwide 50.08-48.02, and loses NM 48.28-50.75
1980: Reagan wins nationwide 50.75-41.01-6.61, and NM 54.97-36.78-6.46
1984: Reagan wins nationwide 58.77-40.56, and NM 59.70-39.23
1988: Bush wins nationwide 53.37-45.65, and NM 51.86-46.90
1992: Clinton wins nationwide 43.01-37.45-18.91, and NM 45.90-37.34-16.12
1996: Clinton wins nationwide 49.23-40.72-8.40, and NM 49.18--41.86-5.80
2000: Gore wins nationwide 48.38-47.87-2.73, and NM 47.91-47.85-3.55%
2004: Bush wins nationwide 50.73-48.26, and NM 49.84-49.05

The nationwide and NM numbers are often very similar.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2005, 07:34:23 PM »

1912: Wilson wins nationwide 41.84-27.40-23.17-5.99, and NM 41.39-16.90-35.91-5.79
1916: Wilson wins nationwide 49.24-46.12, and NM 50.20-46.64
1920: Harding wins nationwide 60.32-34.15, and NM 54.68-44.27
1924: Coolidge wins nationwide 54.04-28.82-16.61, and NM 48.52-43.02-8.46
1928: Hoover wins nationwide 58.21-40.80, and NM 59.01-40.85
1932: Roosevelt wins nationwide 57.41-39.65, and NM 62.62-35.76
1936: Roosevelt wins nationwide 60.80-36.54, and NM 62.69-36.50
1940: Roosevelt wins nationwide 54.74-44.78, and NM 56.59-43.28
1944: Roosevelt wins nationwide 53.39-45.89, and NM 53.47-46.44
1948: Truman wins nationwide 49.55-45.07, and NM 56.38-42.93
1952: Eisenhower wins nationwide 55.18-44.33, and NM 55.39-44.28
1956: Eisenhower wins nationwide 57.37-41.97, and NM 57.81-41.78
1960: Kennedy wins nationwide 49.72-49.55, and NM 50.15-49.41
1964: Johnson wins nationwide 61.05-38.47, and NM 59.22-40.24
1968: Nixon wins nationwide 43.42-42.72-13.53, and NM 51.85-39.75-7.86
1972: Nixon wins nationwide 60.67-37.52, and NM 61.05-36.56
1976: Carter wins nationwide 50.08-48.02, and loses NM 48.28-50.75
1980: Reagan wins nationwide 50.75-41.01-6.61, and NM 54.97-36.78-6.46
1984: Reagan wins nationwide 58.77-40.56, and NM 59.70-39.23
1988: Bush wins nationwide 53.37-45.65, and NM 51.86-46.90
1992: Clinton wins nationwide 43.01-37.45-18.91, and NM 45.90-37.34-16.12
1996: Clinton wins nationwide 49.23-40.72-8.40, and NM 49.18--41.86-5.80
2000: Gore wins nationwide 48.38-47.87-2.73, and NM 47.91-47.85-3.55%
2004: Bush wins nationwide 50.73-48.26, and NM 49.84-49.05

The nationwide and NM numbers are often very similar.



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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2005, 08:10:45 PM »

One of the few places in the country where Pro-Life organization and Democratic Party floats are cheered equally in parades.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2005, 08:57:36 PM »

One of the few places in the country where Pro-Life organization and Democratic Party floats are cheered equally in parades.
In places. Wink Santa Fe and the University/Nob Hill/Downtown areas of Albuquerque wouldn't cheer, since they're all inhabited by migrendelist leftists. Shocked

It is true, though, that the NM Dems - judging by what I remember from their 2004 newspaper interviews - are NOT united on their abortion stance - there is a big pro-life/pro-choice split.

Here's a thing to remember: no one of the four ideological quadrants dominates New Mexico, although the populists and libertarians are both fairly strong and the conservatives and liberals are weaker than their national averages. This fragmentation helps make the state a tossup.

And Little Texas has some populist spots IIRC - there are Democratic state legislators in parts of Little Texas (Clovis, Roswell, Carlsbad, Artesia, Hobbs) and they are not socially liberal at all. Still, I'd say the libertarians are the strongest out there, but they're not uncontested. Smiley

Any further information will have to await Al's resumption of his Political Analysis of New Mexico. Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2005, 09:52:26 PM »

Let me cite a couple of factors (I lived in New Mexico when young, and have had family there for decades).

First, north central New Mexico (and south central Colorado) has a really weird hispanic enclave.  When the state (Democrat) party was controlled by conservatives, this area voted Republican.  When the parties transitioned, so did the vote in the area. 

Second, there are a number of indian reservations in New Mexico, and many of them vote quite conservative. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2005, 11:45:34 PM »

One thing is for sure:  The state would be a lot better off if the aliens had abducted Taos instead of Roswell.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2005, 09:52:02 AM »

One of the few places in the country where Pro-Life organization and Democratic Party floats are cheered equally in parades.
In places. Wink Santa Fe and the University/Nob Hill/Downtown areas of Albuquerque wouldn't cheer, since they're all inhabited by migrendelist leftists. Shocked
The White portions of Santa Fe, I suppose you're referring to?

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Oh definitely. That area also has some pretty wild swings to the Dems sometimes (not in presidential elections). Not really the most solidly Republican part of the state, although usually their strongest one.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2005, 09:53:18 AM »

There are loads of often tiny Indian rezs in New Mexico, and some are ultra-conservative in the anthropological sense. Not sure how that translates into voting patterns or if they have the same voting pattern as the Hopi - ie non whatsoever.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2005, 04:11:44 PM »

One thing is for sure:  The state would be a lot better off if the aliens had abducted Taos instead of Roswell.

YES. Wink

One of the few places in the country where Pro-Life organization and Democratic Party floats are cheered equally in parades.
In places. Wink Santa Fe and the University/Nob Hill/Downtown areas of Albuquerque wouldn't cheer, since they're all inhabited by migrendelist leftists. Shocked
The White portions of Santa Fe, I suppose you're referring to?

Yes...which is an ever-increasing share, what with all the wealthy lefty yuppie Californians moving there and raising the property values - and property taxes - so high that a lot of the original Hispanic population has been forced out of Santa Fe...it's rather a contentious issue up there.
And any city which elects Greens to its City Council automatically gets the designation of 'migrendelist leftist'. Tongue

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Oh definitely. That area also has some pretty wild swings to the Dems sometimes (not in presidential elections). Not really the most solidly Republican part of the state, although usually their strongest one.
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Quite accurate. Remember Al's display of the 2002 Governor's Race? To paraphrase Bill Richardson: 'Hey, I won Hobbs!' Cheesy

Now, the south-central part, Lincoln and Otero Counties, THAT'S pretty conservative.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2005, 05:07:49 PM »

Always seemed like a very polarizing state, but that's just me.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2005, 03:48:23 PM »

Always seemed like a very polarizing state, but that's just me.
Just remember that there are more than two poles to polarize around. Wink
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