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« on: April 14, 2018, 11:50:43 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 12:09:12 PM »

Looks like the "gop giving up on the house" article was wrong lol.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 12:16:27 PM »

Looks like the "gop giving up on the house" article was wrong lol.

It now seems to be like that might've been more individual voices expecting them to or calling for them to, but yeah, it definitely looks like they don't want to go down without a fight.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 12:40:53 PM »

oof, house isnt gone now.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 02:20:56 PM »

Where on earth does the RNC get 250 million? They have 42 million in the bank but I am assuming this 250 million includes money they have already spent?
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 02:25:45 PM »

Where on earth does the RNC get 250 million? They have 42 million in the bank but I am assuming this 250 million includes money they have already spent?

Or are projecting themselves to raise.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2018, 02:52:00 PM »


It never was. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2018, 02:56:51 PM »

No amount of money is saving them in 2018

The GOP is a money pit for it's donors
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2018, 04:40:49 PM »

I think the most miserable hell for Republicans would be having a one or two seat majority in the House. The next Speaker would probably have to be institutionalized.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 05:25:11 PM »

No amount of money is saving them in 2018

The GOP is a money pit for it's donors

Koch and Adelson are overjoyed with Senator Roy Moore, Governor Ed Gillespie and Congressman Rick Saccone.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2018, 05:26:13 PM »

Looks like the "gop giving up on the house" article was wrong lol.
Anyone with half a brain, would know that a political party would never give up their House majority 7 months before the election, LOL.

Dems basically did in 2010.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2018, 05:26:42 PM »


Please tell me you two are joking.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2018, 05:54:55 PM »

Where on earth does the RNC get 250 million? They have 42 million in the bank but I am assuming this 250 million includes money they have already spent?

Or are projecting themselves to raise.

One of their billionaire donors has probably already expressed willingness to donate that much.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2018, 06:11:19 PM »

It isn't as if they are going to officially say that it is gone but the writing is on the wall. The Speaker of the House is leaving, there have been multiple retirements in competitive districts and there is a clear enthusiasm gap.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2018, 06:57:07 PM »

No amount of money is saving them in 2018

The GOP is a money pit for it's donors

I agree. $$$ won't save R's in the age of Trump. Any $$$ spent will be offset by the blithering idiot and his constant tweets.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2018, 08:41:08 PM »

Looks like the "gop giving up on the house" article was wrong lol.

That article was from Mitch McConnell's operation.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2018, 08:53:35 PM »

Glad they are wasting all their money.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2018, 12:09:26 AM »


Might look something like this???

I guess it might be one way to either "Drain the Swamp" OR toss some money to rats to try a last ditch effort to stop them jumping off the ship,,,,

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2018, 06:21:11 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2018, 07:49:12 AM »

The thing is that from anecdotal evidence the GOP are actually very good at building a ground game, and being able to turn out voters (Both Florida, and WI spring to mind as very skilled state parties)

The problem was when groups tried to throw millions in TV advertising to prop up Strange, then Saconne. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2018, 10:08:56 AM »

The thing is that from anecdotal evidence the GOP are actually very good at building a ground game, and being able to turn out voters (Both Florida, and WI spring to mind as very skilled state parties)

The problem was when groups tried to throw millions in TV advertising to prop up Strange, then Saconne. 
Yep, game over for the Dems unless they can keep up with the money raised.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2018, 10:31:48 AM »

The thing is that from anecdotal evidence the GOP are actually very good at building a ground game, and being able to turn out voters (Both Florida, and WI spring to mind as very skilled state parties)

The problem was when groups tried to throw millions in TV advertising to prop up Strange, then Saconne. 

Lol...ground game is overrated. The only reason the GOP is good at turnout is due to older voters skewing GOP and turning out at high rates in off year elections. The muh whole ground game turns voters out is a myth. People turnout when they are motivated,...no amount of commercials, canvassers, or policy papers will motivate a voter. Republican voters especially will not turnout with boogeyman Obama and Hillary not being on the ballot or in office
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2018, 10:38:04 AM »

The thing is that from anecdotal evidence the GOP are actually very good at building a ground game, and being able to turn out voters (Both Florida, and WI spring to mind as very skilled state parties)

The problem was when groups tried to throw millions in TV advertising to prop up Strange, then Saconne. 

Lol...ground game is overrated. The only reason the GOP is good at turnout is due to older voters skewing GOP and turning out at high rates in off year elections. The muh whole ground game turns voters out is a myth. People turnout when they are motivated,...no amount of commercials, canvassers, or policy papers will motivate a voter. Republican voters especially will not turnout with boogeyman Obama and Hillary not being on the ballot or in office

Yeah this lol. You can invest a million dollars in ground game and it'll only increase turnout by 3% at max.

There is no mythical dollars that makes people turn out. They either care to turn out or they don't.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2018, 11:46:19 AM »

The thing is that from anecdotal evidence the GOP are actually very good at building a ground game, and being able to turn out voters (Both Florida, and WI spring to mind as very skilled state parties)

The problem was when groups tried to throw millions in TV advertising to prop up Strange, then Saconne. 

Lol...ground game is overrated. The only reason the GOP is good at turnout is due to older voters skewing GOP and turning out at high rates in off year elections. The muh whole ground game turns voters out is a myth. People turnout when they are motivated,...no amount of commercials, canvassers, or policy papers will motivate a voter. Republican voters especially will not turnout with boogeyman Obama and Hillary not being on the ballot or in office

Yeah this lol. You can invest a million dollars in ground game and it'll only increase turnout by 3% at max.

There is no mythical dollars that makes people turn out. They either care to turn out or they don't.

At most, during a high turn out election in the middle of an economic collapse, even when accounting for population growth, economic circumstances, candidate quality, racial demographics...., ground game raised turnout for Obama by just 0.8% in 2008:

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But on the flipside, John McCain's ground game actually made no difference in 2008:

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So one could argue that Obama's 0.8% gain was just correlation and not causation.

With regards to 2012, Obama's ground game made almost no difference:

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And let's not even talk about 2016....Trump didn't even have a ground game operation while Hillary inherited Obama's.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2018, 11:48:28 AM »


And let's not even talk about 2016....Trump didn't even have a ground game operation while Hillary inherited Obama's.

Lmao, I forgot about that sh!t. Hillary had the most amazing ground game operation in American history (hundreds of millions of dollars) and she turned out slightly less voters than Obama and underperformed the polls pretty much everywhere besides Arizona and Texas (states where she didn't really have a groundgame operation anyways).
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