Black singers in emo and gothic music

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Why do they not exist?

[Bootes Void]

This is mostly niche music and not mainstream

[Big Abraham]

same reason there aren't a lot of white Delta blues or calypso singers

[Santander]

Because black men don't need to wear makeup or cut themselves to make music.

*waits for BRTD*

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

Because black people, on average, have better music tastes than us honkies.

[Santander]

Because black people, on average, have better music tastes than us honkies.

But yeah, in all seriousness, for the past century, black Americans have not only made music that was accepted by whites, but embraced by them. 20th century popular music is basically defined by black artists and white artists who were inspired by them. It's an extremely tired cliche that every white rock guitarist is just trying to earn the right to play black music, but it's based in truth. Black people don't need to go underground, because their music tastes have been so superior whenever they did something, everyone else would follow not long after. (not making any racial claims, I am speaking purely in terms of culture)

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Not sure if I'd consider emo or goth "underground". The Cure and similar bands were very popular in the early 80's. Grunge and emo overshadowed them, and now Black-inspired music is arguably the norm for the mainstream.

Shoegaze is about as underground as underground can get, and there were zero black artists during its fifteen minutes in the spotlight.

My Spotify playlist is whiter than Mike Pence at a golf course.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Um...

[Santander]

Not sure if I'd consider emo or goth "underground". The Cure and similar bands were very popular in the early 80's. Grunge and emo overshadowed them, and now Black-inspired music is arguably the norm for the mainstream.

It's always been the norm. The Beatles have skiffle roots, The Rolling Stones were inspired by black blues and early rock artists, early British hard rock is Delta blues-inspired, Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis (who in turn inspired artists like Elton John) were pioneers in bringing black music to the white masses, even racists like Ted Nugent admit their primary influences were black.

Any genre associated with independent record labels is basically underground, which definitely includes emo. White people go underground when they get sick of the sh**ttiness of white music.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

There was also an emo band in the 90s from Maryland called Anasarca that had a black vocalist.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

It's always been  the norm. The Beatles have skiffle roots, The Rolling Stones were inspired by black blues and early rock artists, early British hard rock is Delta blues-inspired, Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis (who in turn inspired artists like Elton John) were pioneers in bringing black music to the white masses, even racists like Ted Nugent admit their primary influences were black.

Any genre associated with independent record labels is basically underground, which definitely includes emo. White people go underground when they get sick of the sh**ttiness of white music.

Do you consider Fueled By Ramen to be an independent or underground label, though? Warped Tour was a big thing in the late Nineties-to-early aughts. With few exceptions, their lineups consisted of punk and emo pop bands.

Although if punk itself was Black-inspired, I'd be interested in knowing the history of that too.

[Lambsbread]

I think it’s kind of a cultural thing that poc just don’t really get into alternative music as often. There’s certainly a lot of stigma about it and shows/bands in those genres are almost exclusively white. There are a few great metalcore and hardcore bands with poc members. But I think emo and stuff like that is just so overwhelmingly white. I can’t think of any bands off the top of my head with a black member that qualifies as “real emo”

[Badger]

same reason there aren't a lot of white Delta blues or calypso singers

There are at least as many as white delta blues singers as there are blacks. and white blues singers? By the ton

[Badger]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

Uh I posted another one. And Bad Brains WAY predate emo lol.

If you count Paramore as emo (which i don't aside from some songs on the first album but probably would be in the discussion here) then this band basically sounds exactly like early Paramore. (Aka it's pop punk )

[Badger]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

Uh I posted another one. And Bad Brains WAY predate emo lol.

If you count Paramore as emo (which i don't aside from some songs on the first album but probably would be in the discussion here) then this band basically sounds exactly like early Paramore. (Aka it's pop punk )

Dude, emo with EXTREMELY rare exception is white as a sheet. Just own it.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

Uh I posted another one. And Bad Brains WAY predate emo lol.

If you count Paramore as emo (which i don't aside from some songs on the first album but probably would be in the discussion here) then this band basically sounds exactly like early Paramore. (Aka it's pop punk )

Dude, emo with EXTREMELY rare exception is white as a sheet. Just own it.

Actually emo is very popular in southeast Asia.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

Uh I posted another one. And Bad Brains WAY predate emo lol.

If you count Paramore as emo (which i don't aside from some songs on the first album but probably would be in the discussion here) then this band basically sounds exactly like early Paramore. (Aka it's pop punk )

Dude, emo with EXTREMELY rare exception is white as a sheet. Just own it.

Actually emo is very popular in southeast Asia.

For example here's a band from Singapore:

[Badger]

Um...

"um", thats one.

Though you could include Bad Brains and fishbone at least in the punk movement.

Uh I posted another one. And Bad Brains WAY predate emo lol.

If you count Paramore as emo (which i don't aside from some songs on the first album but probably would be in the discussion here) then this band basically sounds exactly like early Paramore. (Aka it's pop punk )

Dude, emo with EXTREMELY rare exception is white as a sheet. Just own it.

Actually emo is very popular in southeast Asia.

I'll take your word for it, but the thread title is about blacks in emo and gothic music. So....

[Mopsus]

What about Hootie and the Blowfish?

[Lambsbread]

What about Hootie and the Blowfish?

They're not necessarily goth, but I would say they fall under the emo umbrella for sure.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Why do they not exist?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Um...

"um", thats one.

And here's an all black emo band! https://www.kerrang.com/who-the-hell-are-proper

Also here's an emo-influenced melodic hardcore band with a black vocalist: